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What do you think of the new uniforms?

#1 Post by Black_Tusk » Tue May 02, 2017 3:45 pm

Finished up my fitting for the new uniforms. I think it's a good upgrade in quality of material. The pants alone are about 10x better than what was used before. They have a nice stretch to the fabric and are much slimmer in the leg. The zip up jacket is kinda neat too. It's also nice to see the new shirts with the padded sweat absorbent collar.
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#2 Post by aV1aTOr » Tue May 02, 2017 3:59 pm

Good to hear, but to be honest I think a couple potato sacks sewn together would be superior to the last pairs of pants I received. Quality of materials used seemingly went way downhill when unisync took over. Here's hoping that trend reverses.
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#3 Post by ZBBYLW » Tue May 02, 2017 5:36 pm

How much thinner are the pants? I don't have too large of a waist but do have bigger quads, will they look like yoga pants?

My fitting is next week so time will tell...
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#4 Post by PositiveRate27 » Tue May 02, 2017 6:38 pm

Black_Tusk wrote:Finished up my fitting for the new uniforms. I think it's a good upgrade in quality of material. The pants alone are about 10x better than what was used before. They have a nice stretch to the fabric and are much slimmer in the leg. The zip up jacket is kinda neat too. It's also nice to see the new shirts with the padded sweat absorbent collar.

Are we getting the "A Cut Above" brand shirts? I was about to place an order on my own because our unisync shirts are either just right in the shoulders but too small in the neck or vice versa. I've used the cut above brand in the past and loved the collar. I guess I have a big neck...
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Re: What do you think of the new uniforms?

#5 Post by Black_Tusk » Tue May 02, 2017 8:43 pm

ZBBYLW wrote:How much thinner are the pants? I don't have too large of a waist but do have bigger quads, will they look like yoga pants?

My fitting is next week so time will tell...
I squat and dead lift and always have trouble fitting pants because of my quads and butt, but found they fit well. The pants are not that much thinner, just enough to look fitted without being too tight. I ended up going one size up on the waist, but in short inseam. Have a bit more room in the quad but still good fitting at the calf. The guy who did my fitting said a lot of the older pilots aren't liking the new setup but all the younger ones love it. The zip up is neat, it's made of a technical type fabric, and the ties are embossed with the rondel. And much more narrow.

The shirts are not acutabove but similar. I'll probably keep wearing my cutabove shirts though because the fitted ones at the boutique are still quite baggy for me. But they are a huge upgrade from the last ones.
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#6 Post by pigboat » Wed May 03, 2017 7:07 am

Us Old Pilots! We prefer tradition. TCA/Air Canada pilots have been in an Air Force blue uniform since 1937. Pilot wings have changed 5 times since 1937. The simple TCA and original Air Canada straight bar wings were far better than anything since.

Improvement in uniform material quality is welcome but the new design is not! :rolleyes:

Regards, An Old Fart.
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#7 Post by Black_Tusk » Wed May 03, 2017 10:30 am

Hey, they kept the double breasted jacket! That is something I guess. :)
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#8 Post by Rowdy » Wed May 03, 2017 8:05 pm

I found the pants way too tight in the legs too! But much more comfortable in the waistband. Shirts are better than what was beforehand. I like the tie! I like the black! Not a fan of the zip up though.
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#9 Post by Black_Tusk » Wed May 03, 2017 8:34 pm

The zip will take time to get used to, especially since I really like the one we have now. I wear it every day.
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#10 Post by skypirate88 » Thu May 04, 2017 3:50 pm

Did my fitting today. I think the tie is terrible. The silk makes it feel cheap and it is skinny, making a double windsor knot look terrible. The pants are also too thin in the calve, but if I were to go up a size the rest of the pants would be huge.

I think the folks a little bigger than myself are going to have a tough time feeling comfortable. I get that fit and form are important for the company image, but I have to wear these pants for 12 hours a day. Some comfort is good.
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#11 Post by Rowdy » Thu May 04, 2017 6:01 pm

skypirate88 wrote: I think the folks a little bigger than myself are going to have a tough time feeling comfortable. I get that fit and form are important for the company image, but I have to wear these pants for 12 hours a day. Some comfort is good.
This is the problem with a 'designer' making a 'fashionable' uniform. Those left to wear it in the real world usually end up bearing the brunt of the faults.

The two helping me out both agreed that there were some amendments that needed to be made in sizing.
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#12 Post by Black_Tusk » Thu May 04, 2017 7:01 pm

There should be two fit options for the flat front pants. Those looking for the skinnier european look (and can actually fit it) and one more like the past fit.

The thing that annoyed me, was I had to spend a decent amount on my last pants to make them fit properly without looking like MC Hammer. So the new ones for me, and my body type they fit OK.

I agree, the tie looks pretty thin, and I noticed the clip on didn't like to stay under the wide shirt collar.
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#13 Post by Rowdy » Sat May 06, 2017 9:21 am

Black Tusk, I asked, because I was quite curious.. A lot of the pieces that were available for fitting were NOT the finished product. They were simply there for sizing. Including the tie.
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#14 Post by KenoraPilot » Fri May 19, 2017 11:01 pm

Shirts are great, but I cannot wear the pants....I will tear the knees and calves apart. Wayyyy too tight.
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#15 Post by atphat » Sat May 20, 2017 7:09 am

Hat - only the HUGE size now. We'll all look like admirals.
Wings - not a fan at all. Maybe I'll get used to them.
Shirts - liked them
Rain coat - I looked pregnant
Coat - not a fan. I liked the topper coat.
Tunic - never wear mine anyways so meh.
Tie - agree with what's posted here. So long double winsdor
Pants - really liked them but I'm a thin guy

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#16 Post by ZBBYLW » Sat May 20, 2017 7:14 am

atphat wrote:Hat - only the HUGE size now. We'll all look like admirals.
Wings - not a fan at all. Maybe I'll get used to them.
Shirts - liked them
Rain coat - I looked pregnant
Coat - not a fan. I liked the topper coat.
Tunic - never wear mine anyways so meh.
Tie - agree with what's posted here. So long double winsdor
Pants - really liked them but I'm a thin guy

My 2 cents.
Hat - Admiral look will suit the new beards.
Agree on every thing else.

There should be another option for the pants. One of the guys I was with was having some issues.
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#17 Post by rudder » Sat May 20, 2017 7:23 am

ZBBYLW wrote:
Hat - Admiral look will suit the new beards.
Beards?
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Re: What do you think of the new uniforms?

#18 Post by Canoehead » Sat May 20, 2017 7:28 am

I heard that at AC, "designer stubble" is now permitted... :roll:
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#19 Post by rudder » Sat May 20, 2017 7:50 am

Canoehead wrote:I heard that at AC, "designer stubble" is now permitted... :roll:
I would be surprised at that. Not really AC style.

I am in favour of beards (closely cropped). That appearance standard exists fairly commonly outside of AC. But the "I forgot to shave this morning" look is not very professional.

I know that there is at least one Express carrier that seems to be operating to the "whatever you feel like" grooming standard. Considering the shared uniform, it does not reflect well on others.

Hopefully the final appearance standard will apply equally to AC and Express.
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#20 Post by Inverted2 » Sat May 20, 2017 8:18 am

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#21 Post by dashtrash1 » Mon May 22, 2017 10:50 am

Looking at the new FOM revision...trimmed beards are now allowed.
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#22 Post by Black_Tusk » Mon May 22, 2017 5:07 pm

dashtrash1 wrote:Looking at the new FOM revision...trimmed beards are now allowed.

Really? Is this for all flight crew, pilots and back end?

I know a few people who will be really happy about this...
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#23 Post by duranium » Fri May 26, 2017 10:52 am

dashtrash1 wrote:Looking at the new FOM revision...trimmed beards are now allowed.
Well, from an outsider who travels extensively, beards, if your CO allows them, will just compound the problem of to many pilots looking like slobs as there are already more than a few that do not grasp the meaning of '' presentable''. Your CO should enforce a uniform dry cleaning item and a proper shoe selection. More than a few of you look like they have just come out of a stable or barn when us unwashed see them walking by in the terminal. High price help than cannot spend the fifteen dollars for a dry clean, impressive. S, add the beard factor and now what

With all due respect to all the others who have a sense of pride, my apologies.
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Re: What do you think of the new uniforms?

#24 Post by av8ts » Sat May 27, 2017 3:54 am

What airline position is CO ?
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Re: What do you think of the new uniforms?

#25 Post by duranium » Sat May 27, 2017 10:37 am

av8ts wrote:What airline position is CO ?
CO= company

replace CO with VP. flight operations
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