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Plus if it’s 2 separate AOCs if one is pulled the other can keep operating if there’s a major accident or TC pulls it. I know a certain company that used to crash Caravans all the time did separate AOCs that so the passenger side could keep flying.
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it BETTER be about the shareholders !
Call up all the management of the equities in your TFSA and RRSP and tell them you want less returns on your investments.
You're just a greedy 1%er.
Canada should have a flat income. Whatever your profession, all income should be the same.
Or at the least a guaranteed income of at least $80,000. You need that to live in TO.
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Also, its those dang teachers. They are SOOOOOOOO greedy. Isn't the teachers pension one of the strongest in Canada.
Now i'm gonna go watch the Kardashians and some NFL football players. They can relate to me, they know my financial struggles.
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doiwannabeapilot wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:30 am it BETTER be about the shareholders !
Call up all the management of the equities in your TFSA and RRSP and tell them you want less returns on your investments.
You're just a greedy 1%er.
Canada should have a flat income. Whatever your profession, all income should be the same.
Or at the least a guaranteed income of at least $80,000. You need that to live in TO.
How much Star Trek have you been watching? You’re telling me a ophthalmologist who specializes in corneal surgery should make the same as the person who sells you life insurance? Come on dude.
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doiwannabeapilot wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:30 am it BETTER be about the shareholders !
Call up all the management of the equities in your TFSA and RRSP and tell them you want less returns on your investments.
You're just a greedy 1%er.
Canada should have a flat income. Whatever your profession, all income should be the same.
Or at the least a guaranteed income of at least $80,000. You need that to live in TO.
What a lunatic you are :lol: .
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Any recent talk of opening "western" base(s) ??
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dhc# wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:57 am Any recent talk of opening "western" base(s) ??
Nothing that has made it to the line. Likely see YOW and YUL before anything in the West. Right now most pairings will have some connection through YOW.

Let's just agree to call it organized chaos at it's finest, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Ottawa and Newark, Boston and T-Bay just announced. Q400 routes.

Lots of airlines pulling back. Porter keeps up with the expansion plans!
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:26 am Ottawa and Newark, Boston and T-Bay just announced. Q400 routes.

Lots of airlines pulling back. Porter keeps up with the expansion plans!
I understand your raw raw attitude as you seem to be a Porter pilot, however Flair continued their expansion despite not making enough money right up until they had leases repo’d. Now they are cautiously maintaining, hopefully not shrinking.
If the market is not there, expansion for the sake of expansion never works out, with the self fulfilling economic crisis looming, this could severely damage any expansion plans for any airline.
I’m at the point I would advise any pilot to grab a seat and hang on, if you have some tenure where you are and can live off of the wages, I would stay put!
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cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:49 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:26 am Ottawa and Newark, Boston and T-Bay just announced. Q400 routes.

Lots of airlines pulling back. Porter keeps up with the expansion plans!
I understand your raw raw attitude as you seem to be a Porter pilot, however Flair continued their expansion despite not making enough money right up until they had leases repo’d. Now they are cautiously maintaining, hopefully not shrinking.
If the market is not there, expansion for the sake of expansion never works out, with the self fulfilling economic crisis looming, this could severely damage any expansion plans for any airline.
I’m at the point I would advise any pilot to grab a seat and hang on, if you have some tenure where you are and can live off of the wages, I would stay put!
I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:15 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:49 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:26 am Ottawa and Newark, Boston and T-Bay just announced. Q400 routes.

Lots of airlines pulling back. Porter keeps up with the expansion plans!
I understand your raw raw attitude as you seem to be a Porter pilot, however Flair continued their expansion despite not making enough money right up until they had leases repo’d. Now they are cautiously maintaining, hopefully not shrinking.
If the market is not there, expansion for the sake of expansion never works out, with the self fulfilling economic crisis looming, this could severely damage any expansion plans for any airline.
I’m at the point I would advise any pilot to grab a seat and hang on, if you have some tenure where you are and can live off of the wages, I would stay put!
I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
But you didn’t “just” announce expansion plans, you literally highlighted that despite “lots of airlines pulling back. Porter keeps up with expansion plans!”
You were recruiting and you know it, good to know you’re not blind to what’s happening around us, I would not be surprised to see Porter delay some deliveries until summer starts to shape up.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:15 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:49 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:26 am Ottawa and Newark, Boston and T-Bay just announced. Q400 routes.

Lots of airlines pulling back. Porter keeps up with the expansion plans!
I understand your raw raw attitude as you seem to be a Porter pilot, however Flair continued their expansion despite not making enough money right up until they had leases repo’d. Now they are cautiously maintaining, hopefully not shrinking.
If the market is not there, expansion for the sake of expansion never works out, with the self fulfilling economic crisis looming, this could severely damage any expansion plans for any airline.
I’m at the point I would advise any pilot to grab a seat and hang on, if you have some tenure where you are and can live off of the wages, I would stay put!
I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
Congratulations to all of you at Porter. It's nice to see further expansion and decent-paying jobs in the industry to give pilots more options.
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tbaylx wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:39 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:15 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:49 pm

I understand your raw raw attitude as you seem to be a Porter pilot, however Flair continued their expansion despite not making enough money right up until they had leases repo’d. Now they are cautiously maintaining, hopefully not shrinking.
If the market is not there, expansion for the sake of expansion never works out, with the self fulfilling economic crisis looming, this could severely damage any expansion plans for any airline.
I’m at the point I would advise any pilot to grab a seat and hang on, if you have some tenure where you are and can live off of the wages, I would stay put!
I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
Congratulations to all of you at Porter. It's nice to see further expansion and decent-paying jobs in the industry to give pilots more options.
Looking for a new job?
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cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:12 pm
tbaylx wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:39 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:15 pm

I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
Congratulations to all of you at Porter. It's nice to see further expansion and decent-paying jobs in the industry to give pilots more options.
Looking for a new job?
Nope, I've got more than enough work in my current organization managing our growth, but instead of tearing down a guy happy his airline is doing well, I'm happy to congratulate them. Best of luck to you in your negotiations at Jazz in 2035.
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tbaylx wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:40 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:12 pm
tbaylx wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:39 pm

Congratulations to all of you at Porter. It's nice to see further expansion and decent-paying jobs in the industry to give pilots more options.
Looking for a new job?
Nope, I've got more than enough work in my current organization managing our growth, but instead of tearing down a guy happy his airline is doing well, I'm happy to congratulate them. Best of luck to you in your negotiations at Jazz in 2035.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:15 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:49 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:26 am Ottawa and Newark, Boston and T-Bay just announced. Q400 routes.

Lots of airlines pulling back. Porter keeps up with the expansion plans!
I understand your raw raw attitude as you seem to be a Porter pilot, however Flair continued their expansion despite not making enough money right up until they had leases repo’d. Now they are cautiously maintaining, hopefully not shrinking.
If the market is not there, expansion for the sake of expansion never works out, with the self fulfilling economic crisis looming, this could severely damage any expansion plans for any airline.
I’m at the point I would advise any pilot to grab a seat and hang on, if you have some tenure where you are and can live off of the wages, I would stay put!
I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
Other than Flair, what airlines are pulling back?
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ashtray wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:48 am
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:15 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:49 pm

I understand your raw raw attitude as you seem to be a Porter pilot, however Flair continued their expansion despite not making enough money right up until they had leases repo’d. Now they are cautiously maintaining, hopefully not shrinking.
If the market is not there, expansion for the sake of expansion never works out, with the self fulfilling economic crisis looming, this could severely damage any expansion plans for any airline.
I’m at the point I would advise any pilot to grab a seat and hang on, if you have some tenure where you are and can live off of the wages, I would stay put!
I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
Other than Flair, what airlines are pulling back?
WestJet has significantly reduced flying in the east coast.
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Jazz also losing routes to AC or just disappearing all together
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:49 am
ashtray wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:48 am
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:15 pm

I didn’t say EVERY airline pulling back. But many are, and that’s a fact. And yes, it’s exciting times at porter. I was simply using the appropriate thread to announce the new routes that porter is doing.

And I also would advise any pilot with some seniority to stand pat and wait it out.
Other than Flair, what airlines are pulling back?
WestJet has significantly reduced flying in the east coast.
A significant decision no doubt for WestJet. How will it be a different outcome for Porter?
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It seems they also pulled out a bit from Vancouver.
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ashtray wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:20 am
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:49 am
ashtray wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:48 am

Other than Flair, what airlines are pulling back?
WestJet has significantly reduced flying in the east coast.
A significant decision no doubt for WestJet. How will it be a different outcome for Porter?
Two fold: WestJet reducing its operation out east has reduced the available seats for customers. Porter’s expansion will at the very least replace those flights.

Another is an increase in slot availability at Toronto pearson. Porter could make use of those slots to open new markets or increase frequency to other ones.
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tbaylx wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:40 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:12 pm
tbaylx wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:39 pm

Congratulations to all of you at Porter. It's nice to see further expansion and decent-paying jobs in the industry to give pilots more options.
Looking for a new job?
Nope, I've got more than enough work in my current organization managing our growth, but instead of tearing down a guy happy his airline is doing well, I'm happy to congratulate them. Best of luck to you in your negotiations at Jazz in 2035.
Thanks, I appreciate the well wishes, even though I see through your thinly veiled sarcasm. We are currently in negotiations and the next “opener” has a clause that has a guaranteed wage adjustment based on inflation, pretty sure this will apply.
As for you, you have to understand at this point, you have never admitted to doing harm to the industry by your choice to bypass the line, that implies you feel no remorse for it and that leaves many, myself included to dismiss you as a selfish individual who would step on their grandmother to get ahead.
Then it appears you are attempting to rub our faces in it.
If I were you, I would have started a new profile and at least attempted to turn over a new leaf, only a narcissist would continue down the same path with all the shade being chucked at them, you’re not taking the high road, you simply found a company that appreciates your lowering the bar.
Good luck to all Flair pilots, I hope it continues growing and creating good jobs, maybe next contract will appreciate FOs as much as the Captains.
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He will forever wear the scarlet S. There is no redemption.
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cdnavater wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:40 am
tbaylx wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:40 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:12 pm

Looking for a new job?
Nope, I've got more than enough work in my current organization managing our growth, but instead of tearing down a guy happy his airline is doing well, I'm happy to congratulate them. Best of luck to you in your negotiations at Jazz in 2035.
Thanks, I appreciate the well wishes, even though I see through your thinly veiled sarcasm. We are currently in negotiations and the next “opener” has a clause that has a guaranteed wage adjustment based on inflation, pretty sure this will apply.
As for you, you have to understand at this point, you have never admitted to doing harm to the industry by your choice to bypass the line, that implies you feel no remorse for it and that leaves many, myself included to dismiss you as a selfish individual who would step on their grandmother to get ahead.
Then it appears you are attempting to rub our faces in it.
If I were you, I would have started a new profile and at least attempted to turn over a new leaf, only a narcissist would continue down the same path with all the shade being chucked at them, you’re not taking the high road, you simply found a company that appreciates your lowering the bar.
Good luck to all Flair pilots, I hope it continues growing and creating good jobs, maybe next contract will appreciate FOs as much as the Captains.
If every chief pilot was on Avcan facing the keyboard warriors like yourself then it would be great for the industry, as it would certainly add some degree of transparency.

As for yourself, I wouldn’t be putting down a fellow Canadian pilot, especially if you’re working at jazz of all places lol
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Hangry wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:44 am He will forever wear the scarlet S. There is no redemption.
Actually it's pink.
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