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. I would have to say that statement probably disqualifies you. 8)
And what does that say about how the regulator works?

For sure they are on record as having told my clients not to fly with me.
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This has been an interesting read..wow! I would write it up as a musical, but I'd have to pay too many people for the rights to it. :lol:

., I think it was answered somewhere in the mess between pages 1 and 5. Either the employer doesn't really know what they are talking about; or they require that the AME should be able to legally exercise the privileges of their license and that there are no outstanding fines, suspensions, or pending tribunals, etc. It is up to the AME to ensure this and to produce the necessary documentation to prove they can do their job.

My jobs as an AME at bigger companies involved me getting a police background check and drug tests. For some AMEs, TC is the least of their concerns.

As far as TC goes, I personally don't have a problem with them. It's been nearly two years since we've had an Ops or Maintenance Audit while at my last company I almost lost track of how many times they pulled the OC or C of A for certain aircraft. Are they unfair? You bet, life's not fair. They are only human.

I've seen operators falsify log books and duty times, pencil whip maintenance checks, and get away with it because they are pals with TC, all their paper is in order, and their planes don't look like the wings are going to fall off quite yet. Fighting with TC won't do you any good because they have you by the short and curlys. Ever get off with a warning after telling a cop he was wrong or not doing his job right?

TC has done some good too, like when they pulled Sonic Blue's OC after the Caravan crash on the island. Maybe they jumped the gun a bit, since the cause of the crash wasn't determined yet. But I worked for the company who restored their remaining fleet to airworthy condition after the bankruptcy and it was scary what I found wrong with these planes.
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As far as TC goes, I personally don't have a problem with them.
Good for you, neither did I for almost fifty years.

But we still have to ask why TC can get away with blackballing someone who had not been working outside the regulations.....the answer of course is because is when you have a dishonest morally corrupt DGCA like Preuss it makes it easy for more of his ilk to get into positions of power and get away with doing whatever they want.

TC has done some good too,
TC is a governing body that by law must uphold and enforce the law, therefore it should come as no surprise when they do what they are there to do.

So tell me iflyforpie just because you can come up with some cases of them doing their job does that give them license to violate other peoples rights under the same set of laws?

Or are you one of those people who just smugly assume that people like me must have it coming to them, therefore if the regulator breaks the law to punish me then in your mind that is just fine?
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Awright Ma... better go git the rifles all loaded up 'cause it looks like we's in fer a shoot up...
He's dun brought out them fightin' werds again...
"either yer with me, or yer agin me... which's it gonna be"?
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Cat Driver wrote: So tell me iflyforpie just because you can come up with some cases of them doing their job does that give them license to violate other peoples rights under the same set of laws?

Or are you one of those people who just smugly assume that people like me must have it coming to them, therefore if the regulator breaks the law to punish me then in your mind that is just fine?
Maybe someone had it out for you and decided to make your life miserable. TC is run by humans with the same weaknesses as us all. I'm not endorsing what they did or saying they didn't break the law; I'm just saying that they aren't all bad.

My dealings with Transport have taught me a few things. That the paper is more important than the aircraft; that it's not advantageous to tell TC absolutely everything if it can be cleaned up in-house; and that it is good to have some obvious but minor things come up during audits so they can feel good about themselves and so they will leave you alone instead of digging further until they find something.

Maybe it's not on the absolute straight and narrow but in the end my planes are safe and TC is off my back.
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Maybe someone had it out for you and decided to make your life miserable. TC is run by humans with the same weaknesses as us all.
No you are completely wrong, what started my problem with TC had nothing to do with my company nor my activities in commercial aviation. It started with a TC inspector whom I had never met before being a total asshole about something that had nothing to do with his job as a TC inspector.....then about a year later I got him as my PMI when I was applying for a FTU OC.....he started our association by threatening me and telling me he was going to make it very difficult for me to get anything approved by him.

The above is factual and even TC's own investigation finally agreed that he in fact had threatened me an did in fact go way beyond his legal powers as an inspector to cause me as much financial loss as he could.

In the end Preuss protected all the TC management who ignored the law to protect their own system....you see these pricks can not admit when one of their own does wrong....and it goes right up to Preuss the DGCA.....a dishonest moral degenerate...
I'm not endorsing what they did or saying they didn't break the law; I'm just saying that they aren't all bad.
That makes me feel better iflyforpie you have not had your rights violated by these pricks so the best you can come up with is they are not all bad.

Yeh, I feel better now just knowing that I no longer have to be in the same business with condescending people like you.
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Cat Driver wrote:
It started with a TC inspector whom I had never met before being a total asshole about something that had nothing to do with his job as a TC inspector.....then about a year later I got him as my PMI when I was applying for a FTU OC
:!: :idea: :!: ... AhhhhHah!! It sounds like.... you broke one of aviation's first rules! You forgot the toes you step on today will be attached to the foot kicking your ass tomorrow!
Man I'll bet you wish you could go back in time and treat that young new TC inspector you just met for the first time with a little more respect eh? ...then he wouldn't had any need to screw you over the next time you met... ....hard lesson... Sounds like it cost you far more than it should have to cost anyone..... Hopefully others can learn something from your mistake?
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:!: :idea: :!: ... AhhhhHah!! It sounds like.... you broke one of aviations first rules! You forgot the toes you step on today will be attached to the foot kicking your ass tomorrow!
I see you are still fixated on coming to conclusions that make you feel better huh Mitch, do you have to really try to be jerk or is it just your natural personality?
Man I'll bet you wish you could go back in time and treat that young new TC inspector you just met for the first time with a little more trespect eh
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First off he was not a young new inspector and no I do not wish I had treated him differently Mitch , because I am not a cringing bag licker like you seem to be and do not believe that bullies should be allowed to bully people.

...then he wouldn't had any need to screw you over the next time you met...
You are a disgrace to aviation Mitch to even suggest that any TC inspector has the right to use the power of his office to screw over a Canadian citizen who's rights under law he is sworn to protect.
....hard lesson...
Not really Mitch, someone has to stand up for what is right and refuse to allow these thugs to walk all over their clients.
Sounds like it cost you far more than it should have to cost anyone.....
Yes it cost me a lot Mitch, but what I accomplished was worth it.

You see I am now able to in public expose some of the top people in TCCa for what they are and I did it using the law against them not breaking the law like they did.

Hopefully others can learn something from your mistake?
I do not consider it as a mistake, and hopefully others will refuse to be bullied and stand up for their rights like I did.

If you have anything that you can use to show that what I did was illegal please provide it ...otherwise you are just another coward on the internet hiding behind a computer screen trying to be something you are not.
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How the f.ck was I condescending? Nowhere in my post did I draw conclusions (the word I used was 'maybe') or say that I was better than you. I had no idea what TC did to you as I am fairly new on this site and don't spend a ton of time on it. I just offer my experiences, as limited as they are.

I'm not going to add another five pages to this growing work of art but I'll say this: Sorry you got screwed, I don't like to see that happen to anybody in this industry. Meanwhile, I've got work to do since my aviation career is only beginning. I can't base my attitude towards TC solely on one person's experience, but I will try and watch my back 8)
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Iflyforpie....no problem I just wanted to get your attention and it would seem it worked...

... :smt040 so no hard feelings ?? :mrgreen:
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No hard feelings :smt040
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aww screw it... ok ., I'm a baglicker... Sorry to piss you off again.
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aww screw it... ok ., I'm a baglicker... Sorry to piss you off again.
Don't worry Mitch, you're in good company in that regard. :lol:
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Mitch, now that we have both vented a little which is cathartic and necessary for good communications lets have a closer look at what I did and why.

It is not about...,
Well you crusty old prick, you can still sling them arrows in your old age eh?
I will agree that as we get older we tend to be less tolerant of jerks like the TC one that I decided to take on back in 2001, but before I did I actually examined what the cost was going to be and also discussed it with some of my colleagues in aviation out here on the west coast.

I then went to a lawyer friend of mine and told him what I was going to do and he finally said that if I went about it by using TC's own system to force them to follow the rules and the law that I would prevail but it would take several years.

So when I started I decided that I could afford to do it because I really felt that someone had to at least try.

It was the most interesting three years I ever had in aviation getting to understand how the system really works behind the scenes, I had suspected that there was a good old boys club mentality at work behind the scenes but had no idea of just how ingrained it was nor the height of arrogance of these morally perverted creatures.

Anyhow I did most of my fact finding and using of their own system to expose their underbelly as I worked all over the world..I will admit there was one time in Portugal when I damn near got on an airplane and flew back to Canada to go into the office of the guy that was in charge of TC's " Quality Assurance " department as he his arrogance was only exceeded by his stupidity.....

Several years later the Regional Director Transport Canada actually admitted that, that it was my tenacity in refusing to be cowed by that thug in quality assurance that was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak and he was given the job of taking over my file to bring it to a close.

Anyhow taking on these mental midgets in TCCA in Ottawa was a walk in the park for me compared to what we were actually doing for a living at the time in Africa.

So yeh, I could be seen as a crusty old prick but at least I am tough enough to not take crap from the likes of Preuss and a few of the sociopaths he has working under him.

You have to admit that for the highest person in their management structure to come to my home to try and fix his problem because I told him I would not meet him in his office for the simple reason I have principals as to where I go and who I associate with speaks volumes on how successful I was.

Being forced to work outside of Canada was the best thing that ever happened to me and more than made up for what it cost me to take them on on their own turf.
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If someone submits to bullying tactics from a person in a position of power such as a TC Inspector because they feel they must be submissive to stay in the inspectors good books could be described as a bag licker in my world.
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