Q400 question

mattedfred · Post by **mattedfred** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:49 pm

perhaps someone in the know needs to explain the difference between Skyservice Airlines Inc and Skyservice Business Aviation?

dream_big · Post by **dream_big** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:36 pm

edit.disregard

ChallengerDan · Post by **ChallengerDan** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:11 pm

mattedfred wrote:perhaps someone in the know needs to explain the difference between Skyservice Airlines Inc and Skyservice Business Aviation?

Skyservice Airlines Inc was created and owned by the same group of investors that controls Skyservice Business Aviation Services, in the mid 90s. It was sold to private equity firm Gibralt Capital Group in the summer of 2007. The board of directors of the airline was kept in place, and many HR ressources were still shared during the transition, some of which beeing: pay, pension, benefits, etc.

They operated as two totally separate companies since 2008, although both kept the Skyservice name because of brand recognition each of them had in their market segments.

mattedfred · Post by **mattedfred** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:42 am

thank you

i am aware of this but i thought that a few other posters were not

if anyone thinks that another Tier 2 CPA for AC with a non union shop will be good for either ACPA, JAZ ALPA or the industry in the long term they're ignorant

mbav8r · Post by **mbav8r** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:50 am

HOUSTON (Dow Jones)-Pilots at Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL) and UAL Corp.'s (UAUA) United Airlines want to end outsourcing of flying to regional partners following their planned merger, a move likely to shake up the industry's already turbulent labor relations.

Jay Pierce, head of Continental's pilots' union, expects the proposal to receive a cool reception from management, but said mainline company pilots can fly regional jets just as cheaply following years of contract concessions.

This is what is to follow, "1st we'll get some competition to drive down the price, then we'll reward ourselves with fat bonuses for a job well done, then when we're not doing so well during the next crisis, we'll get the peons to take wage cuts because we can prove it's cheaper to use tier 2 providers competeting for the work, then reward ourselves with fat bonuses for a job well done. Who's in???"

truedude · Post by **truedude** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:47 pm

Does anyone have that number for that truck driving school?

Samson · Post by **Samson** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:07 pm

Ahhhahaha. Jazz gets Sky Service's 757 work and then AC gives away the new Dash 8 work to...... Sky Service. The ironing is delicious. Watch the new dash pilots at Sky Service work for way less than Jazz pilots now*.

When does AC's contract with Jazz expire? Something tell me that if SK does a good/cheap job with the Q400's they'll be operating a bunch of RJ's soon. If I was a Jazz pilot I'd be looking to get on those Boeings quick. Soon they might be the only airplanes they have left.

* But all their other pilots get a small raise that they were due anyways.

4Stroke · Post by **4Stroke** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:27 pm

Samson wrote: If I was a Jazz pilot I'd be looking to get on those Boeings quick. Soon they might be the only airplanes they have left.

Nah, Samson, I ain't worried. Word is now we're getting your EMJ 175s, so I'm not worried about a few Q400s.

aileron · Post by **aileron** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:28 pm

Localizer wrote:I believe they were only awarded 30 slots, compared to Porters 74 or something like that .. that's taken from the news so give or take 20 slots.

156 Slots to POE
30 Slots to AC
16 Slots to CO

Johnny#5 · Post by **Johnny#5** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:26 pm

"16 slots to CO"

Porter, Air Canada, who's CO?

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:50 pm

Continental

Liftdump · Post by **Liftdump** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:59 am

(in my best apoo voice from the Simpsons) I am not to be handing out the number to
truck driving school to pilots. We have a respectful industry here go away please.

RFN · Post by **RFN** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:03 pm

"Truck Master I think it is?"

"Yeah, I might need that".

Ha Ha Goose, suck it! I already have a trucking job!

TAT · Post by **TAT** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:50 am

SKY REGIONAL AIRLINES INC.

New Airline is recruiting motivated and enthusiastic Pilots for a fleet of DHC-8 Q400's. Pilots will be based in Toronto and Montreal. Previous Dash 8 Experience would be an asset. Please send your resume to: careers@skyregional.com or Fax: (905) 678-5719. Must be Canadian Citizen / have legal right to live and work in Canada.

don't know if anyone has seen this but hmmm wonder what it could be for???

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:52 pm

Well I am pretty sure it is for Air Canada, as in tier 2 flying. Operated by Skyservice BAS. Aircraft from Frontier Lynx I believe.

airmech07 · Post by **airmech07** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:05 am

Samson wrote:
When does AC's contract with Jazz expire? Something tell me that if SK does a good/cheap job with the Q400's they'll be operating a bunch of RJ's soon. If I was a Jazz pilot I'd be looking to get on those Boeings quick. Soon they might be the only airplanes they have left.

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Contract doesn't expire until 2025

Plim Sole · Post by **Plim Sole** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:31 am

Localizer · Post by **Localizer** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:42 pm

Samson wrote:When does AC's contract with Jazz expire? Something tell me that if SK does a good/cheap job with the Q400's they'll be operating a bunch of RJ's soon. If I was a Jazz pilot I'd be looking to get on those Boeings quick. Soon they might be the only airplanes they have left.

Good/cheap job .. workin' hard for nothing .. ahhh a pilots dream.

Mig29 · Post by **Mig29** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:19 pm

So anyone knows with the intro of 15 new Q400 at Jazz, how many Crj200 are being retired? And are there plans to acquire in the future more Crj705s? Or replace older Dash-8 300s?

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:41 am

The first 2 Q4's to arrive will add to the CPA covered fleet. At present I believe there are 123 aircraft dedicated to CPA flying and the CPA calls for 125 covered aircraft with an additional 8 "swing" aircraft (RJ's). The remaining Q4's (13) will replace CRJ 100/200's. Another 15 options are in place but I believe none have been exercised and I would think they would be destined to replace RJ's.

Mig29 · Post by **Mig29** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:30 pm

I've just read in "news" that the Q400s are destined initially to the "central region" of Canada, due to customers demands - Air Canada.
No, its not a rumor...

It will be interesting to see if Jazz will have a common type rating for the Q as well...

genetic jack hammer · Post by **genetic jack hammer** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:54 pm

Samson wrote:The ironing is delicious.

Depends, perhaps if you're ironing a lean side of beef.

avagator · Post by **avagator** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:18 pm

It will be interesting to see if Jazz will have a common type rating for the Q as well...[/quote]

I thought that idea was put to bed a long time ago? I think it would have to be bid as seperate equipment.

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:46 pm

Going to be interesting to see if we have to bail out skyregional for awhile till they get there act together

Lost in Saigon · Post by **Lost in Saigon** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:00 pm

I think the whole point of SkyRegional is just to put the final nail in the coffin for Porter. Once that happens there will be no more SkyRegonal.

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