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My response is that since there are no aircraft involved, there is no Flight Training Unit. There are only freelance instructors advertising their services.

At some point, people, we need to put some effort into rolling back the burdensome "nanny state" requirement for an FTU OC.

Keep in mind that in the USA there is absolutely no requirement for an FTU OC. A flight instructor can do his initial ride in the morning - what we would call a class 4 - and in the afternoon, be instructing unsupervised on his personally-owned and privately-registered C172, all with the blessing of the FAA. The sole requirement is that in addition to an annual inspection, he must do a check every 100 hrs of flight time. That's it.

Also keep in mind that Transport recognizes the validity of any FAA private pilot certificate earned via the above, and will happily convert it to a self-standing TCA PPL.

One has to wonder whether the burdensome requirements for an FTU OC are really driven by safety issues, or by superb lobbying on the part of ATAC.

Keep in mind that I have a foot in both camps. I do freelance instruction, but I am also PRM and ALT CFI of an FTU. Took us FIVE YEARS to finally get our MCM approved - and we don't have our own AMO or stock ANY parts. FIVE YEARS, people.
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I look at the flight training division of TCCA as Canada's answer to Hitler's Waffen-SS, all they are missing is guns, which they don't need in a herd of sheep..
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.: keep in mind that TCA did get rid of the requirement to stop the prop during multi training, which generally resulted in a real single-engine approach and landing.

Progress is possible, albeit glacially slowly.
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Yes, that is an an anomaly within their system.

Can you think of any other progressive move they have made in the last several decades?
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Hedley wrote:Keep in mind that in the USA there is absolutely no requirement for an FTU OC. A flight instructor can do his initial ride in the morning - what we would call a class 4 - and in the afternoon, be instructing unsupervised on his personally-owned and privately-registered C172, all with the blessing of the FAA. The sole requirement is that in addition to an annual inspection, he must do a check every 100 hrs of flight time. That's it.

Also keep in mind that Transport recognizes the validity of any FAA private pilot certificate earned via the above, and will happily convert it to a self-standing TCA PPL.
So technically this could happen to a canadian pilot:
- FAA conversion then gets FAA CFI certificate
- Buy N-registered aircraft, have it insured
- Provide FAA training in Canada
- Get student to do TC conversion after FAA licence if the student wants to. If he finds a N- aircraft that he can insure while having it in Canada, then perhaps he'd rather do the biannual check. One of my students just did his FAA conversion and is very reluctant to re-register any suitable plane he finds in the US. A few years ago in France, the French counterpart of TC modified the rules because there were too many pilots (mostly airline... other pilots would have had a lot of trouble with the language) who had done an FAA conversion then buy and use an N- aircraft in France.

Hence the questions:
- does FAA allow training outside of US?
- does FAA allow testing outside of US? If not, that would just mean a few more hours to get students familiar with practical US airspace usage, and do the test somewhere close to the border.
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Hence the questions:
- does FAA allow training outside of US?
- does FAA allow testing outside of US?
Yes and Yes. There is a flight school near here that currently offers FAA helicopter licenses, so I see no reason why they couldn't start up to do fixed wing stuff as well.

http://www.redeagleaviation.com/CAN_REA_home.php

Apparently this wasn't possible in the past, but the NAFTA changed that. Much to the consternation of TC from what I've seen.

So Cat, you can train in Canada, just not towards Canadian licenses. Which I'm sure breaks your heart. ;)
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Dumb question: how do the students get their solo time?

Wouldn't an FAA student pilot permit only be valid in the USA?

Neat paperwork trick, otherwise.
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So Cat, you can train in Canada, just not towards Canadian licenses. Which I'm sure breaks your heart.
I have no desire to teach towards the PPL or any other license.

I can however start an airplane rental business with my Cub without any need for any TC certificate.

I can also fly with my renters and act as a consultant on how to fly the thing with the license I hold now, a PPL.

In fact I can do it without a pilots license as long as the renter is licensed and insured on the airplane.

I very much doubt TCCA would or could do anything to stop me, especially considering they still owe me a quarter of a million dollars having lost the legal battle with me over their last mistake.

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Not sure how it is accomplished. I was grudgingly assured by the local TC chain dogs that it was indeed legal. I did get the idea though that they would like to find something wrong with it, but were called off by the higher ups. I can only assume there's another federal department involved.

Are FAA SPPs limited to the US?

Maybe I'm reading the CARs wrong, but there is the potential one could use a Canadian SPP for flying solo too. You don't need an FTU to get one after all, just a pulse and pass the PSTAR. Is there any place that specifies that when a student is authorized to go solo on a SPP that they must be working specifically towards a Canadian license?
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Are FAA SPPs limited to the US?
I had presumed so. Pilot permits are not pilot licences (eg PPL, CPL, ATPL) which are recognized by ICAO and are valid in other ICAO countries.
use a Canadian SPP for flying solo
That's probably the easiest way to do it. They would have at least one Canadian instructor on staff who would claim with a straight face to be supervising all the students. But hold on a second - that's ab initio training on a non-owned aircraft, so it can't be freelance, so you would need a TCA FTU OC for it anyways.

How could you possibly get the required liability insurance for a monkey house like that?

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Hedley wrote:
Are FAA SPPs limited to the US?
I had presumed so. Pilot permits are not pilot licences (eg PPL, CPL, ATPL) which are recognized by ICAO and are valid in other ICAO countries.
They call it a Student Pilot License (Certificate). On which you can have a cross-country endorsement.

Anyway, FARs 61.89 (http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guida ... ent&Click=)

(a) A student pilot may not act as pilot in command of an aircraft:
(5) On an international flight, except that a student pilot may make solo training flights from Haines, Gustavus, or Juneau, Alaska, to White Horse, Yukon, Canada, and return over the province of British Columbia;

A Canada-Canada flight is not an international flight.

I'm sure those helicopter guys have dug the thing more, there might be something usable there.
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