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Re: Canadian North Hiring

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Having winglet mod and a big door mod on the plane will simply just put too much load/stress on the wings. Both mod adds weight to the plane. And you have to factor in that sometimes the plane will haul heavy freight. Gotta meet that max takeoff weight and of course the $$$$$$$$.
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dhc# wrote:Hi,

Thanks for the update regarding the hiring situation.

Do you know the reason why only "non" winglet -300's are getting "combi ized" ?
Simply a certification issue. No one has previously certified a -300 with winglets and a cargo door. Too expensive for 5T to do an initial certification/flight test program on their own, so no winglets on the combi's.
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Re: Canadian North Hiring

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Just saw the HR lady update her status that Empress is recruiting FOs for Dash8 and 37. I know that job posting has been up on the website for awhile. But I'm guessing if HR updated their twitter/facebook account status, that must be a good sign. Good luck to everyone.

2 37s joining the fleet next year. I believe one in January or February and the other one in April.

All I know maintenance is going to have a lot on their hands. Come on Empress, hire a few more mechs for the YEG base already!!!
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She keeps putting up the ad every few months but has anyone ever gotten a call, cause I sure haven't and getting any info from her is near impossible :(

On the other hand, its always nice to see the hiring continue....always hope :mrgreen:
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I just clicked on the link to see what the minimum requirements are for applying to Cdn North....

"an Airline Transport Pilot’s Licence with multi-engine endorsement Class 1 Instrument Rating a minimum of 1500 hours of flying experience"

Why not just put ATPL since you need all of the above to have one....plus a pulse, a desire for gravel, blizzards and rig pigs.
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acidgambit wrote:Just saw the HR lady update her status that Empress is recruiting FOs for Dash8 and 37. I know that job posting has been up on the website for awhile. But I'm guessing if HR updated their twitter/facebook account status, that must be a good sign. Good luck to everyone.

2 37s joining the fleet next year. I believe one in January or February and the other one in April.

All I know maintenance is going to have a lot on their hands. Come on Empress, hire a few more mechs for the YEG base already!!!
Are the "new" 737's that are coming online replacements for the old '200's or growth aircraft for the fleet ?
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Re: Canadian North Hiring

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dhc# wrote:
acidgambit wrote:Just saw the HR lady update her status that Empress is recruiting FOs for Dash8 and 37. I know that job posting has been up on the website for awhile. But I'm guessing if HR updated their twitter/facebook account status, that must be a good sign. Good luck to everyone.

2 37s joining the fleet next year. I believe one in January or February and the other one in April.

All I know maintenance is going to have a lot on their hands. Come on Empress, hire a few more mechs for the YEG base already!!!
Are the "new" 737's that are coming online replacements for the old '200's or growth aircraft for the fleet ?

Long term plan is replacement of the 200's. Short term it's all hands on deck to cover the flying, so it will be fleet "growth" up until the 200's aren't needed anymore or become flower pots due to the # of cycles on the airframe.
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Four jets mechanical out of YFB this week? Can't be all that fun.

For both Canadian North and First Air the time has come to retire those -200s!
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When will the -300's start doing the YOW-YFB AND YZF-YRT-YFB skeds, replacing the -200's....
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dhc# wrote:When will the -300's start doing the YOW-YFB AND YZF-YRT-YFB skeds, replacing the -200's....
Whenever we get one online with the cargo door cut into it. Sometime in early 2014 i would guess.
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dhc# wrote:When will the -300's start doing the YOW-YFB AND YZF-YRT-YFB skeds, replacing the -200's....
The ground support has to be put in place as well. Several stations can't handle a -300 with certain MELs currently, due to ground equipment limitations.
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thirdtimecharm wrote:Four jets mechanical out of YFB this week? Can't be all that fun.

For both Canadian North and First Air the time has come to retire those -200s!
There is NO (non-Russian) replacement for a -200 on a gravel strip. Save me the comedic relief and do not give me a song about turboprops until you find one that will haul 15,000lbs of freight and 76 people onto the pointy pebbles.
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There is NO (non-Russian) replacement for a -200 on a gravel strip. Save me the comedic relief and do not give me a song about turboprops until you find one that will haul 15,000lbs of freight and 76 people onto the pointy pebbles.
*cough*
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boxcut wrote:
There is NO (non-Russian) replacement for a -200 on a gravel strip. Save me the comedic relief and do not give me a song about turboprops until you find one that will haul 15,000lbs of freight and 76 people onto the pointy pebbles.
*cough*
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*cough*

Try again Boxcut.
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Donald wrote:
boxcut wrote:
There is NO (non-Russian) replacement for a -200 on a gravel strip. Save me the comedic relief and do not give me a song about turboprops until you find one that will haul 15,000lbs of freight and 76 people onto the pointy pebbles.
*cough*
Try again Boxcut.
76 Pax @ 215lbs (conservative estimate) and 15,000 lbs of cargo = 31,340 lbs of payload. Max payload on a good day for a 737-200 ADV is about 35K lbs.

I doubt VERY HIGHLY that you can get that sort of payload on a 737-200 ADV and land at YCB/YCO/YUX, since those strips are at around the 5000ft mark, right on the very edge of the performance envelope of the jet. Add in that the gravel kit requires bleed air (loss of useable payload) and icing protection is in use probably 50% of the time (more loss) and landing weight limitations of a Boeing on a gravel strip (more payload loss).

To think that you can slam a Boeing down, or even better, get one loaded to 31 K lbs out of a short gravel strip, is frankly, Naive. You should do your research before spouting off on something you clearly know nothing about.

And for reference, the Herc has a useable payload of 50, 000 lbs or so. Even allowing for shortened strip operations, 31,000 lbs would be no problem at all for it. So unlike the Boeing, which cannot even do the originally proposed load, the Herc could.
edit: And that's the old L-100. The newer J, of which admittedly there is no known civilian variant, could do the same, AND fly at 340 knots, roughly 80% of the speed of the Boeing. The L-100 is slower of course, at 70% of the speed of the Boeing. SO the Boeing has a speed advantage on the Herc, but definitely not a payload advantage.

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Add in that the gravel kit requires bleed air (loss of useable payload)
Are you sure about that?
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@Changes in Lattitude.

100% Positive about that.

Part of the Gravel kit is the Vortex Dissipation system, those weird little tubes out of the front of the engine.

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They use bleed air to kill off the vortexes from sucking rocks into the engine inlet. It saps some of the engine's power to use them, and depending on temperature/runway length, can drop available take off weight anywhere from 700 to 1400 lbs.

Anyway, this is getting pretty far off topic and I can recognize that. I said my two cents with my typical muleheadedness so I'll hush up again.
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Before you hush up, can you answer this? I'm only familiar with the Herc as a straight freight hauler. Is it possible to configure it to carry passengers in relative comfort (overhead bins, lavs, galleys), while also carrying cargo in a compartment that has fire detection and/or extinguishing capability?
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The short answer is yes.

The longer answer is there is a variety of mods approved by LM for use in the L-100. Some are basic, no real changes other then roll in pallets of airline chairs, which is better then the nylon mesh seating on military models. But all the ducting is still exposed, and you are very aware of the roots of the aircraft, and the noise is still tremendous. At the other end of the scale, there is a combi setup where a passenger cabin is built forward of the wing root, with variable spacing on the chairs, lavs, and a galley. This setup covers the walls in airliner style, and the cabin is insulated against noise, making for a much more enjoyable ride. The problem here is that the Combi is fixed, I do not believe you can easily add in more seats for less cargo, or vice versa. And the main problem of the Herc is still present, notably the wasted volume when traveling in passenger mode, as the cargo bay is very 'high' with the low floor, so the amount of seats is constrained by this proportion. I have not heard of a two deck mod, and I doubt it would be useable, the Herc is not that tall. I'd still make the case that the L-100 could replace Canada's northern Boeings on most of their runs, with very little change in service other then the slightly increased flight times. There'd still be a lot of useable payload.

What I would really like to know, is if the Q400 has decent short field performance, and if its approved on gravel. That would be quite interesting I suspect, as a Boeing alternative. Although to the best of my knowledge, the Q400 doesn't have a combi config as of yet, but hell, I could be wrong.
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100% Positive about that.
Why not use APU bleed air and turn the engine bleeds off for takeoff?

Just a thought.
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Gravel take-off and landings are done with engine bleeds off with the vortex dissipators tapped off prior to the bleed valves similar to engine anti-ice.
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how about AME apprentice positions; I haven't seen any postings for a long-long-long while now :/
I thought there was going to be a shortage of AME's, and needing to fill that gap in the near future; least that is what I was told in school.... that there is a high demand for apprentices... ??? :?:
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AMETonyD wrote:how about AME apprentice positions; I haven't seen any postings for a long-long-long while now :/
I thought there was going to be a shortage of AME's, and needing to fill that gap in the near future; least that is what I was told in school.... that there is a high demand for apprentices... ??? :?:
Funny what schools say to suck you in...
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Why not just start a new thread instead of hijacking this one?
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The Q400 is gravel approved. Face it, nobody is going to build a jet without high bypass ratio engines nowadays. How about Canadian buy that old PWA 737 that flew out of YXD?

http://youtu.be/FXilZHGMLLM?t=1m50s
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