How do you live in Vancouver on $24/Hour?Pat Richard wrote:Encore still looking as of 3 days ago
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My guess is either in your car, or if you get ACA'd, the basement of half a duplex in Surrey.How do you live in Vancouver on $24/Hour?
But lets focus on the positive, that wage apparently is above the national working poverty level according to another poster in this thread. So let your entrepreneurial spirit shine through, lol, especially at dinner time when you're enjoying KD, lol. (being very sarcastic)
I remember 15 years ago making a little more than that working on Navajo's.
Race to the bottom continues full speed. You go westjet.
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Thats actually several dollars more than what a newly licensed AME would get at most places here in YYC or YVR. Westjet is a step up plus flight benefits! Im sure in the future if not already we will be on par with the pilots.frosti wrote:How do you live in Vancouver on $24/Hour?Pat Richard wrote:Encore still looking as of 3 days ago
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...maybe you can explain what the "poverty" level in Canada is then.that wage apparently is above the national working poverty level according to another poster in this thread.
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...moveHow do you live in Vancouver on $24/Hour?
My guess is either in your car, or if you get ACA'd, the basement of half a duplex in Surrey.
...nonsense
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You don't. Vancouver is the most greatest, most dynamic city in Canada, and it costs money to live there. People without university degrees, successful businesses, or involved in media or entertainment cant compete with offers from people who do. Vancouver isnt a city full of mechanics making 24 dollars an hour. The good news is theres plenty of shitty suburbs where three quarters of Metro Vancouver live that are affordable for blue collar working class people.frosti wrote:
How do you live in Vancouver on $24/Hour?
The gleaming condos and seaside mountain estates are still in view on clear days. You can fill your days dreaming about moving up. Or spend them bemoaning what could have been.

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In response the the guy whomsaid 24/hr is above average for a newly licensed AME in YYC I am not sure where you are working, But even when I first got my lisence in 2007 in YYC I made 25/hr, and am now well north of $30. Almost closer to 40, and no I'm nit a contractor either.
Stay away from the airlines If you want money, I could barely keep from laughing when Westjet mainline made me an offer 2 years ago.
Stay away from the airlines If you want money, I could barely keep from laughing when Westjet mainline made me an offer 2 years ago.
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So why did you post this six months ago?david_351 wrote:In response the the guy whomsaid 24/hr is above average for a newly licensed AME in YYC I am not sure where you are working, But even when I first got my lisence in 2007 in YYC I made 25/hr, and am now well north of $30. Almost closer to 40, and no I'm nit a contractor either.
Stay away from the airlines If you want money, I could barely keep from laughing when Westjet mainline made me an offer 2 years ago.
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 72#p780572Hello, Im an M1 licensed AME, licensed for 2 years. I have been trying to get on at WJ since before I even graduated school. Last summer I got a call and did a phone interview, then was selected to go in for an in person interview but unfortunately was not selected. I have since been trying and biding my time, I have high hopes for the arrival of the Q400s to bring more maintenance opportunities.
I am just wondering if any maintenance personnel have any advice on how to make myself stand out. I know I am at a handicap coming in with only an M1. Would it be advisable to leave my current position and work towards my M2, even possibly get some classic Dash-8 (100-300) series experience, or would doing so make my resume look bad, like I am a job hopper? If anyone could give me some advice on how to make myself stand out among all the other candidates?
Best Regards
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LOL. My uncle used to live on the left side of that picture.... rigth next to Stanley Park. He wasn't making much more than $50,000 a year. That part of Vancouver attracts plenty of the Bohemian crowd who spend lots of money on rent and little else with their Liberal Arts degrees and barrista jobs.... just like Tribeca in NYC.
People don't live there because they want yards.... that even the young professionals have to move out to at least Port Moody to get. Real rich people live in Kits or Point Grey or the British Properties....
Living in a fancy city doesn't mean you are wealthy.... I grew up middle class in Richmond in the middle of the countdown to 1997.... no biggie.
People don't live there because they want yards.... that even the young professionals have to move out to at least Port Moody to get. Real rich people live in Kits or Point Grey or the British Properties....
Living in a fancy city doesn't mean you are wealthy.... I grew up middle class in Richmond in the middle of the countdown to 1997.... no biggie.
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Richmond is one of the shitty, affordable suburbs. But it has all the basic ammenities, less rain Vancouver City, really close to YVR and ZBB. An AME making in the mid 20's per hour could make a decent life living there. Assuming his wife has a job too that is.
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QFT.iflyforpie wrote:LOL. My uncle used to live on the left side of that picture.... rigth next to Stanley Park. He wasn't making much more than $50,000 a year. That part of Vancouver attracts plenty of the Bohemian crowd who spend lots of money on rent and little else with their Liberal Arts degrees and barrista jobs.... just like Tribeca in NYC.
People don't live there because they want yards.... that even the young professionals have to move out to at least Port Moody to get. Real rich people live in Kits or Point Grey or the British Properties....
Living in a fancy city doesn't mean you are wealthy.... I grew up middle class in Richmond in the middle of the countdown to 1997.... no biggie.
Vancouver is alright. The snob factor has been increasing at an exponential rate though... Everyone still moans about the weather, the mountains have a lovely band of green smog across them in the Summer, the Transit is lacklustre, decided lack of good music venues... I could go on. Soon Van Gritty will rival Toronto for the title "Centre of the Universe".
But hey, whatever fires your cylinders.
As a born and raised West Coaster, every time I go home from here on the East side I'm reminded of why I left BC nearly a decade ago.
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Vancouver has the best transit system in Canada. Forget living on easy street, I want to live within three blocks of the Canada Line. That wasnt there a decade ago.
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Great Pic!
ahh...there's nothing like flying into YVR at night from the east. The harbour from the west is pretty awesome as well.
after spending over 20 yrs. there...there are somethings I miss, and somethings I don't.
Expensive for sure and the growth since EXPO '86 has been unbelievable...and a ton of foreign investment.
BC's population has the highest personal unsecured debt ratio in Canada at almost $39,000 per person...and that does not include mortgage debt.
Canada's average non-mortgage debt is $26,000.
As for the best transit system? Well I don't agree. Try getting to the airport that is a 15 min. drive everyday by bus in under 1.5 hrs.
If you're making $50,000/yr you are in the top 25% of Canadian salaries.
If you are making $75,000/yr you are in the top 14% of Canadian salaries.
...not bad for a two year diploma...
ahh...there's nothing like flying into YVR at night from the east. The harbour from the west is pretty awesome as well.
after spending over 20 yrs. there...there are somethings I miss, and somethings I don't.
Expensive for sure and the growth since EXPO '86 has been unbelievable...and a ton of foreign investment.
BC's population has the highest personal unsecured debt ratio in Canada at almost $39,000 per person...and that does not include mortgage debt.
Canada's average non-mortgage debt is $26,000.
As for the best transit system? Well I don't agree. Try getting to the airport that is a 15 min. drive everyday by bus in under 1.5 hrs.
If you're making $50,000/yr you are in the top 25% of Canadian salaries.
If you are making $75,000/yr you are in the top 14% of Canadian salaries.
...not bad for a two year diploma...
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"It has been generally proven that upward of 92% of all statistics and quotes found on the Internet are made up"
- Abraham Lincoln.
- Abraham Lincoln.
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From the article above:
"*Calculations are based on data from the Canada Revenue Agency’s Interim Income Statistics report... so an income of $29,999 falls into the bottom 51.9 per cent of Canadian tax-filers, whereas an income of $30,000 belongs to the top 48.1 per cent."
Nice twist on the facts there Neverblue..
Big difference between being in he top 25% of salaries and top 25% of tax-filers..
The latter % includes Wellfare recipients, retires, kids with newspaper runs, students with Summer jobs, people on unemployment, people on long term disability, un-working spouses in single income home that have no income whatsoever, etc, etc...
"*Calculations are based on data from the Canada Revenue Agency’s Interim Income Statistics report... so an income of $29,999 falls into the bottom 51.9 per cent of Canadian tax-filers, whereas an income of $30,000 belongs to the top 48.1 per cent."
Nice twist on the facts there Neverblue..
Big difference between being in he top 25% of salaries and top 25% of tax-filers..
The latter % includes Wellfare recipients, retires, kids with newspaper runs, students with Summer jobs, people on unemployment, people on long term disability, un-working spouses in single income home that have no income whatsoever, etc, etc...
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NeverBlue wrote:
If you're making $50,000/yr you are in the top 25% of Canadian salaries.
If you are making $75,000/yr you are in the top 14% of Canadian salaries.
...not bad for a two year diploma...
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Lol.. I plugged in $0.01 as my annual salary into that articles calculator you used Neverblue
At that rate of pay I would sadly find myself among the bottom 18%
At that rate of pay I would sadly find myself among the bottom 18%
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...and your point is?Big difference between being in he top 25% of salaries and top 25% of tax-filers..
The latter % includes Wellfare recipients, retires, kids with newspaper runs, students with Summer jobs, people on unemployment, people on long term disability, un-working spouses in single income home that have no income whatsoever, etc, etc...
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That your salary stats are made up meaningles bs.. As proven by your cited source (that is talking about something unrelated and actually shows your quoted 25% and 14% numbers to be ridiculously high)NeverBlue wrote:...and your point is?Big difference between being in he top 25% of salaries and top 25% of tax-filers..
The latter % includes Wellfare recipients, retires, kids with newspaper runs, students with Summer jobs, people on unemployment, people on long term disability, un-working spouses in single income home that have no income whatsoever, etc, etc...
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dashx wrote:Westjet has "strict" policies regarding AME's with second jobs. If you have been let go or quit because of a second job I'd love hear from more of you (listening to just one does not make for a good statistical study....).working a second job
Who told you that ? What do you think they do during their 5 or 6 days off ? Sit at home ? Most, if not all, the guys at Westjet and Air Canada work at other places during their off days. They're the ones bringing the contract rates down because they already have a job, and they dont mind getting a little extra on the side.
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...My Stats!!That your salary stats are made up meaningles bs.. As proven by your cited source (that is talking about something unrelated and actually shows your quoted 25% and 14% numbers to be ridiculously high)
When did I say they were "my stats"??
Show me your stats if Macleans are so "ridiculously high"
..and maybe you could tell me what you think Macleans has to gain by publishing this kind of "made up meaningless bs"
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Ok Neverblue, i will try again, please read very slowly... If I posted that the average lifespan of beavers was 20 years and then as proof posted a source to a study talking talking about Canadian geese lifespan would my beaver numbers be real or made up? I have no problem with Maclean's data.
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a recent story in a Ktown news site with regards to a "living wage" for the Okanagan.
Encores wages seem to be right in running for working poverty.
The Central Okanagan's Living Wage has risen for the third straight year.
Figures released Tuesday show the 2013 Living Wage for the Regional District of Central Okanagan has risen by 4.9 per cent over 2012.
According to the report, in order to keep a two parent, two child household out of extreme poverty, each adult must be employed full-time and earn at least $18.01 per hour in order to meet the most basic of needs.
The Living Wage in 2012 was $17.17 while in 2011 it stood at $16.98.
"While most categories used for the Living Wage calculation increased slightly, there was a notable jump in the costs associated with child care. This expense rose approximately 8.5 per cent or $89 per month over 2012," says Christine Walsh, the regional district's social development program coordinator.
"Also adding to the increased challenge facing Central Okanagan families is a 4.5 per cent rise in the cost of transportation to just over $492 a month in 2013.
The Living Wage is calculated using an established format from the Canadian Centre for Police Alternatives and is endorsed provincially by First Call: BC Child and Youth Advocacy Coalition.
Figures reflect the actual costs of living in a community.
The Central Okanagan calculation includes costs for food, rent, transportation, child care and education expenses, all considered basic needs for a family. Government taxes, credits, deductions and subsidies are also included within the calculations.
Other real life costs such as debt repayment, entertainment including cable and internet, special care of a relative, cigarette smoking and saving for or acquiring home ownership are not included in the calculation.
Encores wages seem to be right in running for working poverty.

