Ice Pilots Season 5 discussion...

[thrust set]

Where did some of you guys come from, like come on. I believe Gord came from an airline family whose father was at Air Canada. He grew up wanting to be an airline pilot..... Period. Moving from the DC3 to the C47 no operator is going to give a rats ass about that endorsement. 6 years at Buffalo to be treated like that, give me a break. He did his time as well at First Air.
The guys that are ragging on Gord for advancing his career are the same pilots you see at every company that bitch and cry when they see someone achieving their career as they are left behind.

You could tell from day one that he was going on to bigger and better things. That couldn't be said for some of the others on that show.

[Colonel Sanders]

Moving from the DC3 to the C47

Do airline pilots need a lot of training to do that?

[Airmanship Police]

I'd be more worried about having an ex pilot turned farmer coming back and threatening my fo's of punching them in the face than a guy who gets a job at Westjet!

Shows great leader"sheep" and makes for a good learning environment. Especially with the dead beat mechanic making fun at him too in the back!!

[PositiveRate27]

Moving from the DC3 to the C47

Do airline pilots need a lot of training to do that?

Boy I hope not! That would be a short differences course! I think he meant to say C46.

[North Shore]

Latest episode shows that even a good natured Newfoundlander can't put up with the rampie position in Hay River and the 2700 hour "Aussie Ace" has just about had it too. I can't say I blame either one of them. Mikey can't believe the nerve of the guy wanting a flying position after only being on the ramp in Hay River for 4 months! Hard to believe they don't have a huge stack of resumes to choose from . I still watch for the entertainment value and it makes me appreciate my job even more!

Indeed! Can you imagine, a guy with that much time thinking that he's qualified to do more than drive a panel van? The nerve of some people!

I should really get off my wallet and pony up for a better cable package so that I can watch this week's episode tonight rather than having to wait until tomorrow to watch it online

[single_swine_herder]

Latest episode shows that even a good natured Newfoundlander can't put up with the rampie position in Hay River and the 2700 hour "Aussie Ace" has just about had it too. I can't say I blame either one of them. Mikey can't believe the nerve of the guy wanting a flying position after only being on the ramp in Hay River for 4 months! Hard to believe they don't have a huge stack of resumes to choose from . I still watch for the entertainment value and it makes me appreciate my job even more!

Indeed! Can you imagine, a guy with that much time thinking that he's qualified to do more than drive a panel van? The nerve of some people!

Yes, the unmitigated cheek of that grotty little man goes beyond the pale of normal aviation operations doesn't it?

Obviously, these guys will be told "you don't have what it takes to make it in this business," and be mailed their employment record so they can have some taxpayer help in finding another career to which they are better suited than flying "Buffalo Style."

This reminds of a company which operated for a long time in YYZ ..... good old Millardair ..... with new F/O wannabes living in the hangar rent free, promising to not smoke or drink, and most certainly no girlfriends ..... can't have females hanging around if you're going to be a pilot.

[Driving Rain]

All the Aero Union P3 are now being cannibalized by this parts company.

http://www.unitedaero.com/home.html

I was wondering about Transport Canada and the approval. To the best of my knowledge this would have been the first P3 in civilian hands in Canada.

[single_swine_herder]

All the Aero Union P3 are now being cannibalized by this parts company.

http://www.unitedaero.com/home.html

I was wondering about Transport Canada and the approval. To the best of my knowledge this would have been the first P3 in civilian hands in Canada.

Yup ...... and obtaining a Transport Canada type approval for the ex-military P-3 would be so easy .... (even though it is somewhat of a variant of the Electra .....) especially for someone as patient as Joe with his long history of harmonious relations with Transport.

[bigsky]

All the Aero Union P3 are now being cannibalized by this parts company.

http://www.unitedaero.com/home.html

I was wondering about Transport Canada and the approval. To the best of my knowledge this would have been the first P3 in civilian hands in Canada.

According to this article - The new owners are going to try and lease or sell the P3's for use as airtankers.

http://fireaviation.com/2013/11/20/new- ... -the-p-3s/

[rolly117]

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Last week on the dc4 valley run to the wells then back to the knife they had a fire indication on # three. the camera was showing # 4 burning, glad to see they got it out. It must be good to know that your fire warning system is in top notch shape when you need it or not

[jet a1]

well i still can't believe that we need to keep talking about this but the show is edited... if i was a betting man, i would say the shot of the wrong fire indication was a mistake made while trying to pick up some footage to add in later.
just a guess.

[albertdesalvo]

The in-flight shot of the burning engine looked a little CGI-ish to me, but then again I've never seen a real burning engine.

[rolly117]

CG camp fire ! You think! Your probably right, all for entertainment purposes. I have seen a fire on zone one and it shoots out the cowl flaps and melts them. BA is is not a stranger to engine fires.Jan 2006 dc 4 xkn departed the wells had a fire on #2, they were 5 min out and they turned back. They landed, 1&2out , 3&4 screaming, no hydraulics, lh inb flap dam near burnt off, the fabric on the left hand elevator gone. They made it to tell another story, Jim smith taught them well. These men and women that fly for buffalo are a rare breed, they are not caught up with the procedures and all that BS that Transport wants us to be, They fly for Joe and he cares! If you want to follow every thing the government wants you to do,well you might as well join the canadian Forces. Common sense will keep you alive no matter what you do.
Pilots go north then they become Aviators.

[wan2fly99]

Is it me or are they trying to show now a more gentler Joe.



Note: I still could not handle that temperatures up north.

[oldyellr]

Interesting how the props on the Lockheed Joe picked up in the UK would expire mere hours after he got it back to Red Deer. That surely had to be contrived for the show.

[shifty]

Can anyone out there comment on why the Electra crew lugs that massive AC power cart around? It showed them using it for the first start of the day in Cambridge Bay but obviously they didn't plan to use it for the last start because it would have been loaded in the airplane. Also, after the power cart was damaged they had no problem leaving Cambridge Bay. Is an AC power cart available for use at most places they fly to? I've never seen them mention the power cart before on the show. I don't know anything about the Electra but I was curious about this while watching the show last night!

[CFR]

Interesting how the props on the Lockheed Joe picked up in the UK would expire mere hours after he got it back to Red Deer. That surely had to be contrived for the show.

The company that owned the plane was using it up until the day they handed it over. If it was me I would want to get the most use out of the airframe before it was sold, but still leave enough for the new owner to get it home. Does seem to be cutting it a bit fine though.

[rolly117]

Why do the buffalo soldiers have to lug around a AC cart? Because electras need AC power for preflight and Joes are poorly equipped, they have no AC generator on that fire belching APU that you see them running with a external hose to the lh wing root every time they want to start the beast. The A/C came from Europe and and its my guess that the operators ditched the apu, gutted the electrical and air ducts to save weight. Every where they went was dam civilized, ground support up the yingyang, huffer start cart and an AC external cart, sometimes they are combined into one. The show was operating out of Cambridge bay and moving stuff to Resolute. They probably left #4 running at Resolute to offload and a electra, can hot fuel if they need to. I was wondering why they had 2 engineers, which is rare, they probable had to do inspections with the ac cart. There is no such thing as an easy buck at buffalo!

[NWONT]

I'm sure I'm not the only person that was wondering why a chain wasn't involved in the DC-3 wheel change at the start of the show. C'mon ., flattening the oleos, What are you thinking............

[complexintentions]

Is it me or are they trying to show now a more gentler Joe..

Is it me or is Joe's granddaughter in Ep 8 very cute?

[godsrcrazy]

Is it me or are they trying to show now a more gentler Joe.



Note: I still could not handle that temperatures up north.

Not sure what Joe is like now. Although Joe can be a hard a$$ with a temper he was also a very giving person. There are many youth groups that benefited from Joe flying them around for zero money. Unfortunately they do not show this side of Joe on this program.

[wan2fly99]

Ya i concur with you
joe niece is cute

I guess there might be another side to him. If they keep showing a company that treats there employee's like garbage who is going to apply?


Note: Is that australian pilot there still? I know these shows are about 6 months ago just wondering

[shifty]

Why do the buffalo soldiers have to lug around a AC cart? Because electras need AC power for preflight and Joes are poorly equipped, they have no AC generator on that fire belching APU that you see them running with a external hose to the lh wing root every time they want to start the beast. The A/C came from Europe and and its my guess that the operators ditched the apu, gutted the electrical and air ducts to save weight. Every where they went was dam civilized, ground support up the yingyang, huffer start cart and an AC external cart, sometimes they are combined into one. The show was operating out of Cambridge bay and moving stuff to Resolute. They probably left #4 running at Resolute to offload and a electra, can hot fuel if they need to. I was wondering why they had 2 engineers, which is rare, they probable had to do inspections with the ac cart. There is no such thing as an easy buck at buffalo!

Interesting, thanks for the info!

[JMACK]

I have been getting my icepilots fix on YouTube but they seem to have vanished!

Can anyone find season five on YouTube any more?


Cheers.......J

[CpnCrunch]

I have been getting my icepilots fix on YouTube but they seem to have vanished!

Can anyone find season five on YouTube any more?


Cheers.......J

You can watch them all free online at icepilots.com.