Keystone Navajo Accident in Thompson

[sunk]

I have the perfect solution.....don't hire fucking idiots.

[cdnpilot77]

I have the perfect solution.....don't hire fucking idiots.

It's not all on the people hired, clearly both of these companies have a reputation that precedes the employees. Why are such companies allowed to exist? Hiring "idiots" is The ONLY way they can "get the job done", as one pilot from this company said to us shortly after the North Spirit crash.

[sportingrifle]

Good God our profession has been dumbed down! If we can get the right kind of fuel in our pick up trucks, can we not do the same in our airplanes without thick manual and SMS programs. I admit I don't supervise the fueling on the 777, but I certainly do on every small aircraft that I fly. Most of the time I pump it myself just to make sure that full is full. I certainly at the very least make sure that the right truck pulls up to the airplane. This was drilled in to me before I soloed the C-150 for cryin' out loud. I suspect that if you want to drill the root causes of his accident down to the very primal basics, it will start with the training that the crew received during their PPL! Just my $.02.

[Diadem]

Good point. Do the fuellers who do this stuff accidentally put diesel in their cars instead of gasoline, or vice versa? Why is it so much harder for them to properly identify the trucks before they drive them to the planes?

[linecrew]

Good point. Do the fuellers who do this stuff accidentally put diesel in their cars instead of gasoline, or vice versa? Why is it so much harder for them to properly identify the trucks before they drive them to the planes?

Speaking as a fueler, not every one of us is as aviation minded as we'd like them to be. I'm still amazed that a few of them have trouble distinguishing the difference between a piston engined aircraft and a turbine engined aircraft just by looking at what's ahead of the firewall. Of course there are some exceptions when it comes to cross-dressers like the Diamond DA-42 that run on Jet A (diesel engine).

[GyvAir]

And what about the legally required label two inches from each fuel cap on the aircraft, stating the required fuel type and tank capacity? Nobody reads anymore?