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Re: Flair Hiring B737 FO's

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Nav99 wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:48 am
tbaylx wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:33 pm
Nav99 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:32 am Thank you for the quick response.
I have 3000 hrs on B737NG/MAX & My TT is 5000hrs.
I am scheduling myself for FAAA exam to convert my FAA ATP to TCCA ATP
I have B1 visa.

Thanks
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That experience would be quite competitive at the moment. I'd suggest starting the C1D visa (the processing time can be extended due to COVID and we won't hire a candidate that doesn't already have the C1D although they will interview without it) and ensuring you highlight that you have a B1, are applying for the C1D, and have the right to work in Canada.

We have a lot of foreign pilot applicants that apply without a PR or right to work so if you're not a Canadian citizen but have a PR and an overseas address your application may hide in the masses of unqualified pilots. If you don't have a Candian license or medical that will likely also get you missed.

All of those documents would need to be in place prior to an employment offer

Thank you for the detailed response.
So does that mean that i need to have crew visa before applying for the job or I can apply for it after the employment offer becuase they might would like to see the offer before giving a crew visa.

I do have a Canadian address.
I'd suggest reaching out to the recruiting team directly at pilotjobs@flyflair.com
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tbaylx wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:46 am
KDO_YUL wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:10 pm Is the YUL base a bid option on the current ground schools? Is it popular amongst the current staff? Just trying to figure out if it would be realistic to think you'd have a chance at it as a new hire
Montreal is opening July 1st. There are open FO and Captain spots as of the latest bid so a new hire should have no problem holding Montreal currently.
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DinosaurBoeing wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:14 am Hi,

I’ve just been accepted in the hiring pool for FO position at flair. Does anybody know how much time it should takes before receiving a groundschool invitation? Are the ones in march already full?



Thanks a lot!!
Any insight on the interview and tests?
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Thank You for the Response. I do understand that the minimum requirement for any Airline Pilot job is an ATPL.

As I mentioned in my previous post, I have a valid ICAO contracting state ATPL and as per CAR:

"Credit for foreign training and skills
We will grant credits to foreign pilot licence holders if the foreign licence:

is medically valid, and
comes from a country that is a member of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
You will meet the ground school instruction requirement if you:

hold a commercial or higher type of pilot licence in the aeroplane category, which was issued by an ICAO contracting state, and
meet applicable experience requirements"

I do realise that there is an urgent requirement for TRAINED, RATED and CURRENT Flight Crew for B 737 MAX, NG. If hired on Canadian CPL then the conversion to CANADIAN ATPL should be a fairly simple process.

Kindly Advise.

Thanks and Regards.
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Flyer@9 wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:26 pm Thank You for the Response. I do understand that the minimum requirement for any Airline Pilot job is an ATPL.

As I mentioned in my previous post, I have a valid ICAO contracting state ATPL and as per CAR:

"Credit for foreign training and skills
We will grant credits to foreign pilot licence holders if the foreign licence:

is medically valid, and
comes from a country that is a member of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
You will meet the ground school instruction requirement if you:

hold a commercial or higher type of pilot licence in the aeroplane category, which was issued by an ICAO contracting state, and
meet applicable experience requirements"

I do realise that there is an urgent requirement for TRAINED, RATED and CURRENT Flight Crew for B 737 MAX, NG. If hired on Canadian CPL then the conversion to CANADIAN ATPL should be a fairly simple process.

Kindly Advise.

Thanks and Regards.
Legally we are able to recruit pilots as FO's with a Canadian CPL. Due to the rapid upgrade times, Flair's minimum requirements are a valid Canadian ATPL. In your specific case in order for the recruiting team to consider your application, you would need to convert your ICAO licence to a Canadian ATPL. As you mentioned above that should be a fairly simple process for you to complete.

While a current 737 rating and experience on type is considered an asset we aren't specifically prioritizing pilots who are rated.
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Once again Thank You for the timely response and sharing the Insight...Much Appreciate it.
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Duckdriver wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:20 pm Does Flair offer flight passes on other airlines for commuting/travel?
At the moment we have AC, WJ, Sunwing, Transat, Helijet, United, Frontier, Breeze and Aegean and Olympic in Europe. Some smaller 704/705 carriers in Canada and more airlines and agreements are consistently being added.
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flying4dollars wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:08 pm
Duckdriver wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:20 pm Does Flair offer flight passes on other airlines for commuting/travel?
At the moment we have AC, WJ, Sunwing, Transat, Helijet, United, Frontier, Breeze and Aegean and Olympic in Europe. Some smaller 704/705 carriers in Canada and more airlines and agreements are consistently being added.
For pilots only. Family can only travel on Flair and no one else. No ZED agreements for family members with any airline and no intent to add this any time soon. Costs the company too much from what I've heard.
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cargocowboy wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:00 pm
tbaylx wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:55 am
Vectorvictor1304 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:09 am Could someone tell me what the chances are of holding YXX as a new hire FO?

Or how long it would take someone to bid for the YXX/YVR bases as a new hire?
YXX is going as junior as the Feb 2022 new hires. YVR in January 2022.

We're adding 8 aircraft this year of which one is going to YVR and there should be more there next year so I anticipate availability in YVR again in 2023 although they are our relatively more senior bases.
How about CYEG for seniority?

Thanks
Your question likely got missed, tbaylx can say for sure, but for the right seat you would have no problem holding YEG within a month or two. The left seat is senior only because it was previously a base and got closed down. It is scheduled to receive a second machine this year which will help. Also, the day a YYC base opens, (or if it opens), a schwack of YEG spots will open up overnight. If a YLW base opens, the YVR/YXX pipe will clear right up as well.
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Arnie Pye wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:55 am
flying4dollars wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:08 pm
Duckdriver wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:20 pm Does Flair offer flight passes on other airlines for commuting/travel?
At the moment we have AC, WJ, Sunwing, Transat, Helijet, United, Frontier, Breeze and Aegean and Olympic in Europe. Some smaller 704/705 carriers in Canada and more airlines and agreements are consistently being added.
For pilots only. Family can only travel on Flair and no one else. No ZED agreements for family members with any airline and no intent to add this any time soon. Costs the company too much from what I've heard.
Correct for now. It's not a cost issue (MyIdtravel integration with Lufthansa is paid and complete) but integration with our reservation system. That requires significant IT resources and is likely 6-12 months out. The intent is to add ZED fares for staff and family.
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What is the likelihood of holding YYZ or YKF as a new hire? Thanks in advance!
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co-joe wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:31 pm
cargocowboy wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:00 pm
tbaylx wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:55 am

YXX is going as junior as the Feb 2022 new hires. YVR in January 2022.

We're adding 8 aircraft this year of which one is going to YVR and there should be more there next year so I anticipate availability in YVR again in 2023 although they are our relatively more senior bases.
How about CYEG for seniority?

Thanks
Your question likely got missed, tbaylx can say for sure, but for the right seat you would have no problem holding YEG within a month or two. The left seat is senior only because it was previously a base and got closed down. It is scheduled to receive a second machine this year which will help. Also, the day a YYC base opens, (or if it opens), a schwack of YEG spots will open up overnight. If a YLW base opens, the YVR/YXX pipe will clear right up as well.
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Hi, got a quick question concerning base bid:

If someone bids YUL #1 and the base is not opened yet, he/she gets YYZ or some other base. Once YUL opens, does he/she get the base then?

I know you would normally have to go through another bid but how's that work when it comes to a base not yet opened?

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Can someone update us on the groudschool situation? I guess march classes are full, what about april’s?

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Does anyone know what COMPASS test look like, if it difficult and is there a place we can practice ?
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I'll save you from the usual denizens who might berate you for not using the internet...use the internet! Seriously. Look up Advanced Compass.
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the_new_guy wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:29 pm Hi, got a quick question concerning base bid:

If someone bids YUL #1 and the base is not opened yet, he/she gets YYZ or some other base. Once YUL opens, does he/she get the base then?

I know you would normally have to go through another bid but how's that work when it comes to a base not yet opened?

Thank you!
We have a standing bid, so when you enter your bid you can select all available basses. We would award an available permanent base until the new one opened then we would move pilots to the new base in order of seniority and position based on the standing bids.
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Hi,
Sooo, I'm wondering. Just sent out some resumes yesterday and some competitors already setup interviews. What's the average time to get a response at Flair?

I'm still confused about how quick things are going these days...

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snip_snap_ wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:26 pm Hi,
Sooo, I'm wondering. Just sent out some resumes yesterday and some competitors already setup interviews. What's the average time to get a response at Flair?

I'm still confused about how quick things are going these days...

Cheers
I think the recruitment team has been bombarded with applications compared to the 'competitors'. It takes time to sift through the applications. I'd just be patient but of course if you have interviews lined up, always take what's in front of you. Good luck.
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snip_snap_ wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:26 pm Hi,
Sooo, I'm wondering. Just sent out some resumes yesterday and some competitors already setup interviews. What's the average time to get a response at Flair?

I'm still confused about how quick things are going these days...

Cheers
That would depend on how competitive your application is. Generally, the response time for a competitive application is approximately a week. IF you have sub 4000 hours it could take longer. We're interviewing well over 100 pilots a month for the foreseeable future.
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On the Flair website it now shows a lower total flight hour requirement of 1500 hours and a "Frozen ATPL". Is a Frozen ATPL considered someone with a CPL and Group 1 IFR with the SARON & SAMRA exams written and valid? When you go to apply for the FO position the drop down only has Canadian ATPL and I do see an option for JAR/EASA Frozen ATPL which I am not sure what that is.

Is Flair considering candidates with 1500 hours and CPL with the SARON and SAMRA exams written or do you have to have the ATPL? If you need the ATPL what are the chances of being considered with 1500 hours and the ATPL?
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aboveclouds wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:03 pm On the Flair website it now shows a lower total flight hour requirement of 1500 hours and a "Frozen ATPL". Is a Frozen ATPL considered someone with a CPL and Group 1 IFR with the SARON & SAMRA exams written and valid? When you go to apply for the FO position the drop down only has Canadian ATPL and I do see an option for JAR/EASA Frozen ATPL which I am not sure what that is.

Is Flair considering candidates with 1500 hours and CPL with the SARON and SAMRA exams written or do you have to have the ATPL? If you need the ATPL what are the chances of being considered with 1500 hours and the ATPL?

I'm wondering the same
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aboveclouds wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:03 pm On the Flair website it now shows a lower total flight hour requirement of 1500 hours and a "Frozen ATPL". Is a Frozen ATPL considered someone with a CPL and Group 1 IFR with the SARON & SAMRA exams written and valid? When you go to apply for the FO position the drop down only has Canadian ATPL and I do see an option for JAR/EASA Frozen ATPL which I am not sure what that is.

Is Flair considering candidates with 1500 hours and CPL with the SARON and SAMRA exams written or do you have to have the ATPL? If you need the ATPL what are the chances of being considered with 1500 hours and the ATPL?
Thanks for the question. We'll have the recruiting team adjust that to clarify. In the meantime select ATPL in the drop-down menu and add a statement in your CV for the recruitment team.

Flair will now consider First Officer applications with 1500 TT, a Canadian CPL, and completed SAMRA/SARON exams.

An ATPL is not required although it is preferred.
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jeds395 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:45 pm I posted this question in an older thread. Should have used this one!

Are there plans to look at a YWG base and expand service out of YWG at any time in the future?
Hey, i live in the montreal region. Yow is not too far, but are the plans for YUL base confirmed? Would it be something possibility discussed in an interview?
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Papa_Justin wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:47 am
jeds395 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:45 pm I posted this question in an older thread. Should have used this one!

Are there plans to look at a YWG base and expand service out of YWG at any time in the future?
Hey, i live in the montreal region. Yow is not too far, but are the plans for YUL base confirmed? Would it be something possibility discussed in an interview?
Montreal base is tentatively planned for Spring 2023. The hiring team would be happy to discuss that with you
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