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rookiepilot wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:28 pm I think its time, if all truckers are no more than Racist Homophobic Misogynistic terrorists, that they leave Ottawa…go home….and commence a general strike.

No violence. No protest. Just stop driving. Immediately.

A month would be great. I’m guessing the rhetoric would change. What would the government do about thousands of independent drivers refusing loads? Arrest them?

Do it. I’m fine with it. Is everyone else?
I curious how you envision the idea of a general trucker strike working. I mean, it's not like all the truckers in Canada are in a union. There are a number of large companies that hire thousands of truckers, there are a number of smaller companies, and there are a lot of independent truckers.

Unless you're talking about all the truckers that are currently taking part in the protest going on strike, in which case the effect is pretty easy to predict: it would result in the same reduction in goods transport as what we've seen in the past week. Not much. There are maybe a couple thousand truckers involved in this protest, out of about 300000 in Canada. Taking less than 1% of the workforce out of a particular industry, while not entirely unnoticed, does not have the effect of shutting down the industry. It would bring up the price of transport a bit which, while not good for the customers of the transport companies, would certainly be appreciated by the remaining drivers as well as other forms of transport.
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Posthumane wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:22 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:28 pm I think its time, if all truckers are no more than Racist Homophobic Misogynistic terrorists, that they leave Ottawa…go home….and commence a general strike.

No violence. No protest. Just stop driving. Immediately.

A month would be great. I’m guessing the rhetoric would change. What would the government do about thousands of independent drivers refusing loads? Arrest them?

Do it. I’m fine with it. Is everyone else?
I curious how you envision the idea of a general trucker strike working. I mean, it's not like all the truckers in Canada are in a union. There are a number of large companies that hire thousands of truckers, there are a number of smaller companies, and there are a lot of independent truckers.

Unless you're talking about all the truckers that are currently taking part in the protest going on strike, in which case the effect is pretty easy to predict: it would result in the same reduction in goods transport as what we've seen in the past week. Not much. There are maybe a couple thousand truckers involved in this protest, out of about 300000 in Canada. Taking less than 1% of the workforce out of a particular industry, while not entirely unnoticed, does not have the effect of shutting down the industry. It would bring up the price of transport a bit which, while not good for the customers of the transport companies, would certainly be appreciated by the remaining drivers as well as other forms of transport.
No idea, but reading the room, its not hard to see labour unrest coming.
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Starting to blockade roads elsewhere. I say let the arrests begin. An arrest record doesn’t go down well for ever crossing the border again.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.6332936
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pelmet wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:34 pm Starting to blockade roads elsewhere. I say let the arrests begin. An arrest record doesn’t go down well for ever crossing the border again.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.6332936
I think you, and Trudeau, both should be arrested.
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Just another canuck wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 am
pelmet wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:34 pm Starting to blockade roads elsewhere. I say let the arrests begin. An arrest record doesn’t go down well for ever crossing the border again.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.6332936
It hasn't even been one business day. Advocating for arrests already? I'm sure you didn't say that when roads/railways/pipelines were blocked for weeks or months at a time in the past.
Of course I did. But our weak kneed, irresponsible federal government actually supported the previous groups and the provincial ones mostly looked the other way.
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You want them arrested for exercising their right to protest? Are you a CCP troll?
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Inverted2 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:17 am You want them arrested for exercising their right to protest?
Hmmm, maybe I should go out and block the 401 in the name of protesting and see how long it takes before I am arrested. I could do it at a major entrance so it is done safely but very disruptively.

In my mind, you are welcome to go to Ottawa, legally park your car/truck, walk over to parliament hill and protest legally.
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Isn't it interesting how, for example, students protesting tuition increases in Montreal are anarchists and people protesting old growth logging in BC are eco-terrorists - according to the news and commenters here.

But, individuals defecating and urinating or parking on or dancing on the War Memorial, or defacing the Terry Fox statue... nope, those were provocateurs!

Hypocrisy at its finest.
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7ECA wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:49 pm Isn't it interesting how, for example, students protesting tuition increases in Montreal are anarchists and people protesting old growth logging in BC are eco-terrorists - according to the news and commenters here.

But, individuals defecating and urinating or parking on or dancing on the War Memorial, or defacing the Terry Fox statue... nope, those were provocateurs!

Hypocrisy at its finest.
Did our Prime Minister / NDP leader / multiple media outlets — call those groups — I quote — “Homophobic Racist Misogynistic Terrorist Insurrectionists” — long BEFORE they even showed up to protest? BEFORE.

NO.

THAT is the only thing I am interested in discussing — the conduct of the Government.

THEY set the tone. THEY are to rise above. THAT is what Trudeau explicitly promised during the election campaign— to rise above Division.

THAT is hypocrisy at its finest.
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Boy do we (Canadians) have our priorities wrong. We're outraged because of a few small incidents perpetuated by some idiots or clueless individuals. We're outraged because someone put Canadian Flag, a baseball cap and "Mandate Freedom" sign on a statue of Terry Fox yet we're NOT outraged by the fact that:

- Our healthcare system has been a disaster for as long as I've lived in this country, possibly more
- Canada is in more debt now that it was after the end of WW2
- Inflation is rampant
- Canadian homes have doubled in price in the past 3 years. Most cannot afford rent, never mind buying a first time home in a Canadian city... of any size.
- Price of food has doubled or tripled in many places
- Price of diesel and gas has gone up $0.40 cents on average per litre
- You were not allowed to move freely within our own country
- Business were closed and people lost their livelihood. (Gyms, bars, restaurants, etc.)
- Had to be quarantined in locations that were unsafe and sub par at best
- Our infrastructure is inadequate. The 401 is a gridlock, while nobody can afford the 407 and its $30.00 one way trip across the GTA

...and I can go on...
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Singh loves violent extremists when it suits him.

And so does the CBC who panders to him.

FACT.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmee ... -1.4575762

in an interview with CBC's Terry Milewski last October, Singh refused to denounce extremists within Canada's Sikh community who glorify Talwinder Singh Parmar, widely recognized as the mastermind behind the Air India bombing that left 329 people dead — 268 of them Canadians”

For this guy to ever label a bunch of protestors Terrorists — unbelievable.

Look in the mirror. Goes for our PM too.
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RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:11 pm Boy do we (Canadians) have our priorities wrong. We're outraged because of a few small incidents perpetuated by some idiots or clueless individuals. We're outraged because someone put Canadian Flag, a baseball cap and "Mandate Freedom" sign on a statue of Terry Fox yet we're NOT outraged by the fact that:

- Our healthcare system has been a disaster for as long as I've lived in this country, possibly more
- Canada is in more debt now that it was after the end of WW2
- Inflation is rampant
- Canadian homes have doubled in price in the past 3 years. Most cannot afford rent, never mind buying a first time home in a Canadian city... of any size.
- Price of food has doubled or tripled in many places
- Price of diesel and gas has gone up $0.40 cents on average per litre
- You were not allowed to move freely within our own country
- Business were closed and people lost their livelihood. (Gyms, bars, restaurants, etc.)
- Had to be quarantined in locations that were unsafe and sub par at best
- Our infrastructure is inadequate. The 401 is a gridlock, while nobody can afford the 407 and it's $30.00 one way trip across the GTA

...and I can go on...
Add: conservatives exist and make everything shitty
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Aviatard wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:55 pm
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:11 pm Boy do we (Canadians) have our priorities wrong. We're outraged because of a few small incidents perpetuated by some idiots or clueless individuals. We're outraged because someone put Canadian Flag, a baseball cap and "Mandate Freedom" sign on a statue of Terry Fox yet we're NOT outraged by the fact that:

- Our healthcare system has been a disaster for as long as I've lived in this country, possibly more
- Canada is in more debt now that it was after the end of WW2
- Inflation is rampant
- Canadian homes have doubled in price in the past 3 years. Most cannot afford rent, never mind buying a first time home in a Canadian city... of any size.
- Price of food has doubled or tripled in many places
- Price of diesel and gas has gone up $0.40 cents on average per litre
- You were not allowed to move freely within our own country
- Business were closed and people lost their livelihood. (Gyms, bars, restaurants, etc.)
- Had to be quarantined in locations that were unsafe and sub par at best
- Our infrastructure is inadequate. The 401 is a gridlock, while nobody can afford the 407 and it's $30.00 one way trip across the GTA

...and I can go on...
Add: conservatives exist and make everything shitty
The progressives prefer to focus on things they know are much more important for you, like their accomplishment of ensuring Mr. PotatoHead is now gender neutral.
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Aviatard wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:55 pm
Add: conservatives exist and make everything shitty
Aviatard wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:52 pm Don’t eat your own poop. Seriously don’t. It’s a bad idea and will probably make you sick.
If you did so, would it be an aviaturd?
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Just another canuck wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:00 pm
Hey Aviatard, do you support Justin Trudeau? What about Jagmeet? Good guys or no?
Serious question? I’ve met and talked to Jagmeet by chance. I think he’s personally a decent guy. As a politician, no I do not.

As for Trudeau, he’s done so many stupid things, from the black face to the costumes in India and lots of other things that are an embarrassment. I think the thing he said the other day about unacceptable views is appalling. He needs to go. So no I don’t support either of those guys.
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Trucks are out of control....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20BeizHnW3s
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pelmet wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:08 pm Trucks are out of control....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20BeizHnW3s
That movie will give poor little Castreau nightmares. :mrgreen:
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.6334828
Quebec Premier François Legault has scrapped his proposed tax on the unvaccinated, sources tell CBC and Radio-Canada.

As first reported by La Presse, the premier is set to make the announcement at a press conference this afternoon, at 1 p.m.
Maybe a result of the protests, or maybe he was just bluffing.
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@MeehanCarolAnne
Wish we could identify protestors to find out if any receive gov’t aid. If they can afford to stay in Ottawa and hurt our residents I would cut them off. Enough!

Ottawa Councillor.
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A protest in a city, while annoying and largely pointless, is one thing. But blocking border crossings is a whole other thing - and illegal.

I'm just waiting for Kenny to finally get a chance to flex his first and only legislative success and use the Critical Infrastructure Defence Act to get the Coutts/Sweet Grass crossing open! :roll:
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