Sault or Confederation?
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Confederation College
You tell me. I have just graduated this amazing program. I have my cpl with a night rating, float rating (24 hrs) and some ski training on a 180. Where else can you skim the tree tops with your floats or tackle the frozen seas? It is not just about if you become a float pilot or ski pilot. I am an airline dreamer all the way, however the decision making and "real world" training is amazing. I have learnt so much on 24 hours of floats and 2 of ski's that all of my first 100 hours couldnt even top it! I have made my choice with Confed. I couldn't be happier!
Enjoy the clip. Confed grad's 2007!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DesNSHd5BrI
Enjoy the clip. Confed grad's 2007!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DesNSHd5BrI
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Having thought about it for a while, I don't think I ever asked a co-pilot where they did their training unless they were doing something stupid in preparation for a ride.
The knowledge level you depart any college with is less than 10% of what life will teach you in your first couple of years of work-related flying.
Just go into it with the idea that the basics you learn serve as the foundation of the skills you need to thrive in the profession. Go hard at all the academics, the flying and whatever aviation activities on the ground you happen to see.
Weather awareness IFR skills and situational awareness are generally a lot lower than you think on graduation. Look at what you think you know when you graduate and look again 25 years later.
Some days are good. Some are bad. Overall it's been great so far.
Have fun wherever you go.
The knowledge level you depart any college with is less than 10% of what life will teach you in your first couple of years of work-related flying.
Just go into it with the idea that the basics you learn serve as the foundation of the skills you need to thrive in the profession. Go hard at all the academics, the flying and whatever aviation activities on the ground you happen to see.
Weather awareness IFR skills and situational awareness are generally a lot lower than you think on graduation. Look at what you think you know when you graduate and look again 25 years later.
Some days are good. Some are bad. Overall it's been great so far.
Have fun wherever you go.
I don't mean to start a video war here, but here is some of the stuff you will do at Sault College if you stay in the program until the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tUi_ibPxss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tUi_ibPxss
wicked! I can remember the inverted part so well, being held down by that crazy 5 point harness double checking that I still had the green dot, then thinking about the mental state of the worker while he was attaching the harness to the floor!
Fun times and a great video. It's going to be a very sad day when the college phases out the zlins. Any fault they have is made up for 100 times over when you're hanging upside down.
Fun times and a great video. It's going to be a very sad day when the college phases out the zlins. Any fault they have is made up for 100 times over when you're hanging upside down.
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Ok boys.....now now......
I put it up state my opinion. Obviously anyone who went to confed thinks their gods of the north and anyone who went to Sault thinks they can fly better than patty wagstaff. Each school is VERY unique! lets agree that each school is different and it is up the the candidate to chose which type of flying they prefer. Everyone clearly knows my stance on the issue, however lets not turn this Sault or confed into a Sault Vs. Confed in a all out brawl like the stupid show UFC.
(and please now lets not turn this into how ufc is bad or good, please.......)
The one good thing a Sault and confed...the really best thing that joins us together is the size of the bill upon graduating
I put it up state my opinion. Obviously anyone who went to confed thinks their gods of the north and anyone who went to Sault thinks they can fly better than patty wagstaff. Each school is VERY unique! lets agree that each school is different and it is up the the candidate to chose which type of flying they prefer. Everyone clearly knows my stance on the issue, however lets not turn this Sault or confed into a Sault Vs. Confed in a all out brawl like the stupid show UFC.
(and please now lets not turn this into how ufc is bad or good, please.......)
The one good thing a Sault and confed...the really best thing that joins us together is the size of the bill upon graduating

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Re: Sault or Confederation?
Which program would give an average student the best chance of graduating?
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If you're already looking for the easier route in flying, let me save you the hassle. Quit now before you get into it. The industry is about to take a massive crap, and the stuff that you put up with at either school is going to look like a fucking candy store compared to what is going to await you upon graduation.
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Re: Sault or Confederation?
endless, your point well taken and much appreciated. I was not looking for the easy way, just wondering, since the fail out rate from confed is something like 33% in first semester. I'm very much against stupid pilots, especially becoming one, and quiting and becoming one is not an option. The only thing that worries me is the heavy math and science in the sault program, but there is no doubt in my mind that I will make it through.
Finally, What advice would you, or anyone reading this forum, give someone to prep for these programs?
Thanks again,
MN
Finally, What advice would you, or anyone reading this forum, give someone to prep for these programs?
Thanks again,
MN
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Re: Sault or Confederation?
Our washout rate was closer to 50% during my first semester.
At Confed, the math and physics classes are extremely rudimentary. I was terrible at math and science in high school. When I went through Confed, I'd been out of high school for 10 years. Just do your homework and study for the tests and exams. It's not that difficult if you manage your time well. I managed to go out for wings and beer during the week and out to the bar on the weekends; it's not like I led a life of solitude in pursuit of my aviation education! Most students that failed out left everything to the absolute last minute and were not prepared.
For someone that has no base knowledge in aviation, getting a head start on your PPL ground school would be beneficial. It's a tough class with a tough final exam and there's a lot of information to digest.
At Confed, the math and physics classes are extremely rudimentary. I was terrible at math and science in high school. When I went through Confed, I'd been out of high school for 10 years. Just do your homework and study for the tests and exams. It's not that difficult if you manage your time well. I managed to go out for wings and beer during the week and out to the bar on the weekends; it's not like I led a life of solitude in pursuit of my aviation education! Most students that failed out left everything to the absolute last minute and were not prepared.
For someone that has no base knowledge in aviation, getting a head start on your PPL ground school would be beneficial. It's a tough class with a tough final exam and there's a lot of information to digest.
Re: Sault or Confederation?
I Believe my class at Sault started with 97, of those approximately 45 advanced to the flying portion. The remainder of the people once flying all failed out for flying, leaving us with a graduating class of 23. So it pretty much halves twice, the first half for academics and the second half for flying skills. The two hardest classes for me were Mechanics and the third round of Calculus. The flying was tough, but if you truly used your time for practicing rather than sight seeing or goofing around it was manageable. If you know you're going to be weak at certain subjects then sign up for tutors early. There's no point in getting in too deep before you ask for help. It will be manageable if you stay ahead of the work.