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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

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JetA Burner wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:48 pm No word on what they're doing with those of us that were pooled from December 2017 interviews? I hear some reference checks have been completed for some.

I suppose 10 July will be the tell all, if 23 July is the start date. Fingers crossed. The silence is killing us!
Apparently by now everyone that interviewed in late 2017 should have either received a phone call with an offer for a course date or an email telling them that they were dropped from the pool. If you haven't received either one, get in touch with your internal reference at Sunwing and have them contact the CP office on your behalf as your file may have somehow been lost in the shuffle and the CP wants to make sure there have been no oversights.
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Slowprop wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:38 pm Did get a call for an in person interview also

About 4500TT with 2500twin pic 1000of those on a Dash8

First time applying
When did you apply and how long did it take for you to hear back
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Did apply for the first time about 1 month ago when there was a posting.
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something_generic wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:20 am Info from a reliable source: 70 to 80 Pilots to be hired from Jul 2018 to Mar 2019. First GS planned Jul 23.
Plans to hire more cadets this year (over 10) :shock: . Over 40 Cpt upgrades scheduled from Jul
Why cadets when there are experienced pilots. Is it a ploy for the management at Sunwing to have long-term career FOs for whom it will take a long term to upgrade or be marketable elsewhere? Or are they made to sign significantly expensive bonds with the promise of flying a 737?
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Qwertyflyboy wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:09 pm
something_generic wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:20 am Info from a reliable source: 70 to 80 Pilots to be hired from Jul 2018 to Mar 2019. First GS planned Jul 23.
Plans to hire more cadets this year (over 10) :shock: . Over 40 Cpt upgrades scheduled from Jul
Why cadets when there are experienced pilots. Is it a ploy for the management at Sunwing to have long-term career FOs for whom it will take a long term to upgrade or be marketable elsewhere? Or are they made to sign significantly expensive bonds with the promise of flying a 737?
A bit of both, actually. Plus it attracts more students to the Universities/ Colleges where Sunwing hires its cadets. I'm sure they pay a cut to Sunwing. It's a vicious circle :evilbig:
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I did a quick search, and I can't see anything about First Officer hiring requirements. I've noted the upgrade requirements, just wondering what they are looking for with respect to the right seat? I've got about 1000 hours and currently on a PC12.

Thanks for the info!
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northernbeaut wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:20 am I did a quick search, and I can't see anything about First Officer hiring requirements. I've noted the upgrade requirements, just wondering what they are looking for with respect to the right seat? I've got about 1000 hours and currently on a PC12.

Thanks for the info!
Did your 'quick search' involve looking at the actual job post? lol

Quoted from their website: "Minimum 2000 total pilot hours". Cheers.
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northernbeaut wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:20 am I did a quick search, and I can't see anything about First Officer hiring requirements. I've noted the upgrade requirements, just wondering what they are looking for with respect to the right seat? I've got about 1000 hours and currently on a PC12.

Thanks for the info!
You certainly won't hear anything this time around. Once word got out about how quick the latest upgrades were the average experience of applicants went through the roof. Lots of 10-20k+ hour guys looking to come home along with captains from places like cargo jet. I have a few friends who applied with 4000ish hours and only one has been called for an interview so far.
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Anyone got a phone call for the august GS ?
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I know of an 850hr pilot that starts in september
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anyone got call for interview lately with the positing in July?
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Any DEC offers?

I believe last DEC hires were late 2012 or early 2013 due minimum experience requirements for upgrade.
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rudder wrote: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:36 pm Any DEC offers?

I believe last DEC hires were late 2012 or early 2013 due minimum experience requirements for upgrade.
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rudder wrote: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:36 pm Any DEC offers?
Yes there are DEC's in the current groundschool.
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Looks like one groundschool is starting in late August for which calls have most likely already gone out. There is an additional groundschool starting Sept 10 but no names yet, so calls might not have gone out for that one.
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Any one who had beeing interviewed last december and still waiting on a ground school date..with bo news?
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Outlaw58 wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:16 am...
Jazz?
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sicamore wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:18 am
Outlaw58 wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:16 am...
Jazz?
Wrong forum... you caught my post during the 25 seconds it was up ;)

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Thanks for the info!


ant_321 wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:49 am
northernbeaut wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:20 am I did a quick search, and I can't see anything about First Officer hiring requirements. I've noted the upgrade requirements, just wondering what they are looking for with respect to the right seat? I've got about 1000 hours and currently on a PC12.

Thanks for the info!
You certainly won't hear anything this time around. Once word got out about how quick the latest upgrades were the average experience of applicants went through the roof. Lots of 10-20k+ hour guys looking to come home along with captains from places like cargo jet. I have a few friends who applied with 4000ish hours and only one has been called for an interview so far.
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So what’s the captain pay?

Pilot jobs network shows year 1 CA pay at $80/hr topping out at $125 in year 5. Top Fo pay is shown at $75/hr? Is that accurate? If so how do senior FOs make $130-150k as a previous poster said?
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Joe Blow Schmo wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:20 am So what’s the captain pay?

Pilot jobs network shows year 1 CA pay at $80/hr topping out at $125 in year 5. Top Fo pay is shown at $75/hr? Is that accurate? If so how do senior FOs make $130-150k as a previous poster said?
Overtime and overseas Basings.

All details are in the CBA

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... &p25=&p34=
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The short story:

Year 1 Capt: $103.57 currently, $107.76 in 2019
Year 2 Capt: $119.50 currently, $124.33 in 2019
Year 12 Capt: $195.02 currently, $202.90 in 2019

Note: All internal upgrades with at least 2 years of service at Sunwing start at the Year 2 Captain salary

Year 1 F/O: $55.53 currently, $58.08 in 2019
Year 2 F/O: $69.62 currently, $72.43 in 2019.
Year 10 F/O: $99.14 currently, $105.21 in 2019

Minimum paid is 1000 Hours per year.

Add in a 6 month deployment, per-diems, natural block growth and a little overtime here and there, it is possible to break $100,000 in your first year at Sunwing as an F/O.
In your second year as an F/O, a 3 month deployment, per-diems, natural block growth and some overtime should get you over $100,000.

Deployments went senior this year, so most new F/O's are just getting their base salary, per-diems and what little overtime is available. Without deploying or overtime, I'd budget that gross pay for a Year 1 F/O around $60000.
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So what could a new DEC expect pay wise?

Are hours flown on GDOs paid in addition to your monthly guarantee?

Is there much opportunity for GDO flying?

Are DECs likely to be forced on European assignments? That'd be hard to do with school age kids unless it was July and August only.
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Most of the answers are in my post above
Joe Blow Schmo wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm So what could a new DEC expect pay wise?
Year 1 Capt: $103.57 currently, $107.76 in 2019. That's $103,570 per year + per-diems.
Joe Blow Schmo wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm Are hours flown on GDOs paid in addition to your monthly guarantee?
Yes, at 2 times your hourly rate.
Joe Blow Schmo wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm Is there much opportunity for GDO flying?
Not much for junior Capt's or F/O's.
Joe Blow Schmo wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm Are DECs likely to be forced on European assignments?
Deployments went senior this year. It's been a few years since anyone has been forced to go overseas.
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