UWO's BMOS - Commercial Aviation Management

[767]

its the new age now, if you don't even have a degree, its hard to remain competitive....

Oh please!! come on now... I dont have a degree, and never will... why? because "ITS NOT FOR ME!" AAHH almost a class 2 instructor...

on the good side, thanks for posting one of my old posts...

I like to use the saying "drill the f*c*er*" ... meaning, drill the "student".. hehe

p.s. just had a student pass a flight test today, im just excited, so no mind ok?

[flightlead]

Simply loving the opinions from different sources, thank you very much and keep contributing!!!

Below I've compiled a list of posts from the forums.army.ca website pertaining specifically to the ROTP CAM program.

One thing I'd like to clarify is that although there is a college entry plan, it is different from the ROTP CAM as it is only a general ROTP entry plan while the CAM ROTP is a specific module that guarantees your choice of aviation career path if admitted only available to UWO! (With that said, correct me if I'm wrong.)

Below is a link to a document which was developed by a university administrator and CF recruiter with specific information regarding the ROTP CAM program offered by CF and UWO:
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php? ... tach=25856

Below are links to individuals who have looked into or have experience within the ROTP CAM program:
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/ ... 815.0.html
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/ ... 958.0.html
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/ ... 975.0.html

I sincerely thank everyone for their input and look forward to hearing more!

Okay, So i read your "published" article and I still do not see any evidence how this program differs from Confederation College, Sault College, or even Seneca College (ASIDE FROM GETTING A DEGREE) ...Minus Seneca of course. Candidates coming out of specific flight colleges, (not sure about Seneca) , are processed as pilots under the CCETP. They are not signed up or mislead with air navigator etc. They enter under the CCETP, however are based on the COETP (you must achieve a degree within 9 years).

I am not sure what your intentions really are.... to help students get through school and get out without debt at the other end, or to simply just sell your program regardless if the information is factual or not. Ontario's Subzed flight colleges are processed in the exact same fashion. If you do not qualify as a pilot, then you simply do not qualify.

I thank you though for your awareness!

And finally, as of May 1st, 2009, there are NO positions, available for pilots, ROTP, and abroad. This information is valid, and i suggest you check with your local recruiting center.

[CanadianEh]

I'm going into the program this fall and although my career goal is to become a pilot, I am interested in learning about the business side of aviation. We'll see how my career goes.

[ToFlyIsDivine]

I'm going into the program this fall and although my career goal is to become a pilot, I am interested in learning about the business side of aviation. We'll see how my career goes.

you'll have a blast, the first two years are not as focused or as specialized, but once you go into the third and forth year, you definitely will not regret coming to Western for CAM.

Welcome and Best of luck!

[mcopolo]

hey guys,

this thread has been dead for a while. Don't know if you guys could still answer my questions:

1) My average for all my 6 grade 12 courses right now including one M course is at 84.67 (Second sem mid-term included)

so, if you round up, is at 85.

2) Physics 12 is among the 6 courses

but my grade 11 marks are complete crap (40's-50's)...they don't really look at yr grade 11 marks right?...they are only for early acceptance?

I have written the supplementary essay as required...what do they look for in the essay as I know this essay weighs A LOT in deciding the offer...

What are my chances of getting into this program. I know ppl in the 85-90's are getting accepted this year.

[CanadianEh]

hey guys,

this thread has been dead for a while. Don't know if you guys could still answer my questions:

1) My average for all my 6 grade 12 courses right now including one M course is at 84.67 (Second sem mid-term included)

so, if you round up, is at 85.

2) Physics 12 is among the 6 courses

but my grade 11 marks are complete crap (40's-50's)...they don't really look at yr grade 11 marks right?...they are only for early acceptance?

I have written the supplementary essay as required...what do they look for in the essay as I know this essay weighs A LOT in deciding the offer...

What are my chances of getting into this program. I know ppl in the 85-90's are getting accepted this year.

Hi there, your average is fine and you will likely get in, although it is close to the cut off. I know some people in the program who got in with lower. Like you said, Grade 11 marks don't mean much except for early acceptance. Good on you for pulling up your marks so much! In the supplementary essay they are looking for passion above all. They want to know that when push comes to shove and things get tough that you're going to have the passion needed to get through. I think depending on how good your essay is and if you keep up your current marks that you have an excellent shot. Are you going for flight or non-flight?

Cheers

[trey kule]

It is my opinion that any company or institution that has to try and chiesel this website out of advertising dollars by a postamercial should be held suspect as a place to spend your money. You really have to wonder how they are going to treat their students.

Many different people. Many different paths. Some are to young and inexperienced to see the wisdom in higher education. Others believe. The path you start your career on will be the path that leads you to your final destination.

[Thunderstrike]

You really have to wonder how they are going to treat their students.

Pretty well to be honest.

....not that I'm trying to drag this thread on well past its expiry date. I think it needs to be put to bed.

TS

[Hedley]

Many different people. Many different paths. Some are to young and inexperienced to see the wisdom in higher education. Others believe. The path you start your career on will be the path that leads you to your final destination

[mcopolo]

hey guys,

this thread has been dead for a while. Don't know if you guys could still answer my questions:

1) My average for all my 6 grade 12 courses right now including one M course is at 84.67 (Second sem mid-term included)

so, if you round up, is at 85.

2) Physics 12 is among the 6 courses

but my grade 11 marks are complete crap (40's-50's)...they don't really look at yr grade 11 marks right?...they are only for early acceptance?

I have written the supplementary essay as required...what do they look for in the essay as I know this essay weighs A LOT in deciding the offer...

What are my chances of getting into this program. I know ppl in the 85-90's are getting accepted this year.

Hi there, your average is fine and you will likely get in, although it is close to the cut off. I know some people in the program who got in with lower. Like you said, Grade 11 marks don't mean much except for early acceptance. Good on you for pulling up your marks so much! In the supplementary essay they are looking for passion above all. They want to know that when push comes to shove and things get tough that you're going to have the passion needed to get through. I think depending on how good your essay is and if you keep up your current marks that you have an excellent shot. Are you going for flight or non-flight?

Cheers

Thanks for the fast reply! I am going for the flight option since being a pilot has been my dream job ever since I was a kid.

I have a question that I want to ask for my fd who also applied to the flight program...his 6 grade 12 courses are at 87-88, but he took 4 of the courses in private school (Advanced Functions, Calculus, English, and I think World Issues), would he in anyway have less chance of getting into the program than I? Do western deduct marks for taking courses in private school?

[CanadianEh]

hey guys,

this thread has been dead for a while. Don't know if you guys could still answer my questions:

1) My average for all my 6 grade 12 courses right now including one M course is at 84.67 (Second sem mid-term included)

so, if you round up, is at 85.

2) Physics 12 is among the 6 courses

but my grade 11 marks are complete crap (40's-50's)...they don't really look at yr grade 11 marks right?...they are only for early acceptance?

I have written the supplementary essay as required...what do they look for in the essay as I know this essay weighs A LOT in deciding the offer...

What are my chances of getting into this program. I know ppl in the 85-90's are getting accepted this year.

Hi there, your average is fine and you will likely get in, although it is close to the cut off. I know some people in the program who got in with lower. Like you said, Grade 11 marks don't mean much except for early acceptance. Good on you for pulling up your marks so much! In the supplementary essay they are looking for passion above all. They want to know that when push comes to shove and things get tough that you're going to have the passion needed to get through. I think depending on how good your essay is and if you keep up your current marks that you have an excellent shot. Are you going for flight or non-flight?

Cheers

Thanks for the fast reply! I am going for the flight option since being a pilot has been my dream job ever since I was a kid.

I have a question that I want to ask for my fd who also applied to the flight program...his 6 grade 12 courses are at 87-88, but he took 4 of the courses in private school (Advanced Functions, Calculus, English, and I think World Issues), would he in anyway have less chance of getting into the program than I? Do western deduct marks for taking courses in private school?

That's great, I'm in the flight option too. The first year sucks because you feel so close yet so far away from flying, but trust me when I say first year goes by in the blink of an eye.
As for your friend, it shouldn't make a difference whether the credits are from a private or public school.

I wish you both lots of luck, PM me when you hear back.

[danial]

Hello thr...justt found out todai tht i have been accepted to CAM..cant wait for september...i was hoping to find out what aveerage do i have to maintain so my acceptance is not taken away??

[Thunderstrike]

Congratulations on your acceptance.

That would be a question for the UWO admissions department. Give them a call.

TS

[cdnpilot77]

Hello thr...justt found out todai tht i have been accepted to CAM..cant wait for september...i was hoping to find out what aveerage do i have to maintain so my acceptance is not taken away??

No one else is going to say it? OK, I really don't like being the spelling police, but wow. Welcome to University!

[CanadianEh]

Hello thr...justt found out todai tht i have been accepted to CAM..cant wait for september...i was hoping to find out what aveerage do i have to maintain so my acceptance is not taken away??

No one else is going to say it? OK, I really don't like being the spelling police, but wow. Welcome to University!

+1.. But I'm not surprised since English is only one of the six courses required.

Btw Danial, it's an 80% I believe. See you in Sept.

[ToFlyIsDivine]

hahaha....just a personal way of spelling things i guess....it happens when you are fresh out of high school and think that spelling things in weird ways makes you cool.....

that will pass

[Boeing boy]

What's the point of the UWO CAM? If you want to be a pilot.. it's not really for you. Airlines don't give a $hit what degree you have, as long as you have one. The degree just shows them intelligence. I livedin London, ON not too far from UWO. But.. instead of going for this program, I decided to get a BA in Social Science (GIS, Physical Geography) and go to a local flight school. I was thinking of getting my licences and ratings between university years (during April - September) and when I graduate from UWO I will have my flight training completed as well hopefully..at least most of it. I found this way it will cost alot less and is more convenient for me..Who thinks this is a good idea?

[ToFlyIsDivine]

May I ask why you chose BA in SS? What was your entrance average?

U of Waterloo has B of Geo plus pilot licenses....why didn't you opt to go that route? Its same as what you are doing now...

All in all its all about preference...what ever works for the individual...and at UWO CAM we teach pilots to see the BIG picture of the aviation industry and how all things come together to make it work....instead of focusing and living in their own little bubble...no offense to anyone of course...

What do others think? Discuss and debate!!!!

What's the point of the UWO CAM? If you want to be a pilot.. it's not really for you. Airlines don't give a $hit what degree you have, as long as you have one. The degree just shows them intelligence. I livedin London, ON not too far from UWO. But.. instead of going for this program, I decided to get a BA in Social Science (GIS, Physical Geography) and go to a local flight school. I was thinking of getting my licences and ratings between university years (during April - September) and when I graduate from UWO I will have my flight training completed as well hopefully..at least most of it. I found this way it will cost alot less and is more convenient for me..Who thinks this is a good idea?

[chipmunk]

What's the point of the UWO CAM? If you want to be a pilot.. it's not really for you. Airlines don't give a $hit what degree you have, as long as you have one. The degree just shows them intelligence. I livedin London, ON not too far from UWO. But.. instead of going for this program, I decided to get a BA in Social Science (GIS, Physical Geography) and go to a local flight school. I was thinking of getting my licences and ratings between university years (during April - September) and when I graduate from UWO I will have my flight training completed as well hopefully..at least most of it. I found this way it will cost alot less and is more convenient for me..Who thinks this is a good idea?

I think it's an excellent idea. It's nice to have the freedom and flexibility that a local flight school would be able to provide, as long as you're focused enough to keep up the studying and do your homework without having university-imposed deadlines. The potential to network is also there, which is golden... there are many working pilots who, on their time off, stop by (or rent out of) these flight schools, and you can meet some really interesting folks, especially if you pick up a ramp shift or two. Don't totally dismiss flying throughout the year, either. Way back when, I scheduled my university classes so that I had two afternoons off a week, and managed (even with the awful Calgary winter weather that year!) to get my PPL done in 5 months while maintaining a decent GPA on a full university course load.

Good luck, study that FTGU, ask questions, be educated and make sure your training stays on track, if you don't like your instructor switch it up (you're paying good money for him/her!), do as much x-country time as you can at night once you've got that night rating done, and most of all... have fun.

[Boeing boy]

Chipmunk, thanks for your input.. I completely agree with your opinion on the flight schools. Also, congrats on the 5 month PPL!

[chipmunk]

Fast forward several years later... and I had a PPL student who finished his license in about 6 weeks during the summer

[Boeing boy]

Fast forward several years later... and I had a PPL student who finished his license in about 6 weeks during the summer

Wow! You're an instructor now.. Are you instructing at the school where you did your own training? Btw, what program did you complete in university?

[mattedfred]

i completed my PPL in 7 weeks one summer

[chipmunk]

Fast forward several years later... and I had a PPL student who finished his license in about 6 weeks during the summer

Wow! You're an instructor now.. Are you instructing at the school where you did your own training? Btw, what program did you complete in university?

PM on the way, it's a bit of a long story.
Not instructing any longer, that was about 7 years ago, and yes, it was at the school I did my instructor rating at; Still working as a pilot, making a hell of a lot more $$ than I did as an instructor!

[ToFlyIsDivine]

been a while all, hows everyone doing?