Adverse Reactions Poll

[kgb531]

Pascal Najadi, the son of WEF co-founder Hussain Najadi, is calling for the arrests of Bill Gates, WHO leadership, the WEF, Klaus Schwab, Big Tech and Pfizer.

He says he and his mother are now dying from the vaccine, which he calls “poison”.

https://x.com/BenSwann_/status/1717978443747328129?s=20

He also filed a complaint against the Swiss President Alain Berset 2 years ago. That was reviewed and actual charges were not filed. Just an internet/youtube whiner. Maybe he will forgive his father for not giving him more money.

[kgb531]

Well it's a fact that at one point, zero Canadians were wearing seat belts and 100 percent of road accident people in hospital were not wearing seat belt, and then at some point the majority of people were wearing seat belts, and eventually most people were. The along this timeline eventually the majority of people in hospitals were also people wearing seat belts.

Funny how that works.

Corrected that for you...Although I do not expect you to comprehend why.

This weird fear monger of vaccination would be called witchcraft or heresy during Medieval time.
With the crowd yelling "burn them at the stake!"



I'll stick to the 21st century thanks!

Actually, this DID happen. The TV AND your "prime minister" ACTUALLY said we are to fear the unvaccinated. That's how this all got started.
Then the people said: "NO!"

We should fear the unvaccinated for the simple reason being that so much half-wittery should not be concentrated in a small area. That same half-wittery was nicely measured in October of 2021 in a federal election held well after said claims. You remember that purple wave of anti-science/anti-passport/antimask/anti-mandate/evangelical rural folk? The one party opposed to anything anti-covid measures. They managed to garner up their entirety and be counted for 3% of eligible Canadian voters.
The movement isn't growing. Only the rhetoric of PPCers and rebel news is. The uneducated leading the country's most gullible.

[JustaCanadian]

Fear the rural folk who love their country, who are the first ones that would sign up for service to fight and die for their country to protect the freedoms it appears many are ungrateful for.

Vaccinated or not, rural folk are some of the most stand up, genuine, generous hard working people I know. I wouldn’t write them off . Completely goofy to attack these Canadians.

[rookiepilot]

Fear the rural folk who love their country, who are the first ones that would sign up for service to fight and die for their country to protect the freedoms it appears many are ungrateful for.

Vaccinated or not, rural folk are some of the most stand up, genuine, generous hard working people I know. I wouldn’t write them off . Completely goofy to attack these Canadians.

Totally agree.

If our leaders normalize attacking those who resisted getting vaccinated with cruel, inflammatory labels, racists, homophobia, a people who Canada should not tolerate, as they did, you could be next. Perhaps for even an airline strike? Would they call those on the line traitors to Canada?

Freeze your bank accounts? For Your faith. For Anything. Don’t laugh.

But for actual violence, antisemitism protests calling for the termination of Jews, the PM is silent today.

It was shocking at the time and I discussed it with my own Liberal MP. They could have educated on vaccines better. But that wasn’t their decision.

Its a very dark road, and it’s spreading, look at the US. Can’t put that genie back in the bottle.

[JerryRig]

That's one reality. In the other reality, COVID had a "99.97% survival rate", and was "just a cold". We're all likely going to catch it, but it's nothing to be afraid of, they said.

The vaccine had no benefit in this alternate information bubble, and apparently will kill 1 in 800. Which, if true, is a 99.875% survival rate. Supposedly we should be afraid of the vaccine, but not of the disease.

Everyone made up their minds years ago. You can't convince someone to switch realities.

The 1 in 800 is incorrectly assessed, which is how untrained public reps spun this lie. It is more correctly understood as for every 800 people who took ONE injection, one died. For every 600 people who took a second jab, one died. For every 400 people who took 3 or more (and it goes up exponentially with every jab) one will die. So are you willing to take that chance? The reason why it's not drawing enough attention is that in a large room of 400 to 800 people, one dying is to easily written off as "oh that was going to happen anyway. Until the person dying started becoming younger and younger and athletes and doctors and teenagers and now babies and pre-born are being affected.

Jerry's COVID survival rate: 99.97%
1 dose: 1 in 800 = 99.875%
2 doses: 1 in 600 = 99.83%
3 doses: 1 in 400 = 99.75%

Jerry's two dose fatality figures are only 0.13% different from his own COVID death figure.

FYI, infants and pregnant mothers are also considered high risk for COVID.

You did it again. Incorrectly assessed. You must work for the government. What it REALLY means is that 100,000 to 200,000 people in Canada have died so far. What do you call that. Safe? Most of those who took one or more got Covid anyway. What do you call that? Effective? There has been zero LONG TERM TESTING. We don’t know how many more will die suddenly. Did you know death due to unknown causes is the highest cause of death in Alberta? How can that be? Are the coroners that incompetent? Or is there a massive cover up? Your assertion about infants and pregnant mothers is opinion and not based on factual statistics. There is simply no credible data to back your claim.

The statistics DO show that Covid deaths are on par to the seasonal flu. And the average death rate due to Covid is higher than the historic death rate.

It has also been revealed (actually known all along) that the testing kits are erroneous causing too many false positives. They have been discontinued.

[dontcallmeshirley]

I’m willing to bet JerryRig also thinks September 11 was an inside job and the Maui fires were from space lasers

And that my people control the media?

[JustaCanadian]

They could have educated on vaccines better. But that wasn’t their decision.

The truth was not advantageous for the narrative they wanted.

The three pillars for the decision to take a vaccine:

1. The disease has to be extremely undesirable to have, such as cause mortality, or significant impairment to life. Covid most closely resembles the flu. While the flu is awful, it has specific demographics that it is most a threat to. Like the flu, covid is just not that bid a deal to the majority of people.

2. The vaccine has to be effective. Of course it is completely obvious today that the effectiveness of the vaccine was misrepresented. We have tweets from Trudeau where he said if you get vaccinated you can't get covid, or spread covid to others. We were promised if we got vaccinated we don't need to wear masks, and then they backtracked on that. So it was very obvious the vaccine was advertised as a silver bullet, when in reality it was maybe just a small part of slowing and preventing covid. This is what makes me laugh at the extreme pro vax people, when someone passes on the vax it has zero consequence on the remaining population. Covid keeps mutating. Why aren't the pro vax keeping up with 2 boosters per year? Why would you die on that hill when one day you yourself will shrug your shoulder and say "ok I had enough, I don't need another booster this year" overwhelmingly most Canadians are done with this vaccine. Who's taking it? Probably the people who should. Older more at risk people. Oh and probably some kids with liberal nut parents, feel bad for those kids.

3. Lastly the vaccine has to be safe. Sorry JerryRig but I disagree with most of what you post. The vaccine is safe, as in safe enough (IMO). Is it worth taking the risk and getting it? For a lot of people maybe not, see points 1 and 2 above. But I appreciate JR perspective, and I think his point is from a place of love and concern. The extreme pro vax view is from a place of hatred, fear, and anxiety. It's completely un-canadain. It's completely against core liberal values, yet it's from the "liberal" demographics. I think these new liberals should rebrand. "the reformed liberals of Canada" brought to you by Trudeau. Can't compare this group to liberals of 30 years ago who actually had excellent core values.

Points 1 2 and 3 don't all add up to everyone needs a vaccine. This is why the truth, or more vaccine education won't help. Government needs to stay further out of healthcare and not be more involved.

[7ECA]

It has also been revealed (actually known all along) that the testing kits are erroneous causing too many false positives. They have been discontinued.

You might want to read the Global News reporting again, the BTNX rapid tests (green box) are giving erroneous false negative results. The tests are much less sensitive than advertised and tend to only pop a positive result if a person is very infectious - rather than giving a more accurate picture of whether or not an individual is infected more generally. The tests are still widely available, though, which is rather infuriating given the fact that we gave the company contracts to the tune of $2B and they falsified the testing data. Not to mention the fact that for a portion of the pandemic these were the only rapid tests available in any quantity, and many of us relied upon them to make health related decisions - are we infected with COVID or another respiratory infection, can we safely go visit elderly relatives, are we able to host a small get together, etc.?

https://globalnews.ca/news/10183219/cov ... er-canada/

https://globalnews.ca/news/10187791/cov ... ance-btnx/

If you want an investigation, push your MP to demand a full inquiry into the BTNX debacle and how a company with little to no experience in the field, managed to hoodwink Health Canada into accepting their modified data sets as gospel and then received massive government contracts to supply rapid tests.

[JustaCanadian]

Alberta health Services paying out big time for wrong doing with non vaccinated workers. Arbitration decision. Should we accept this? Or does the union have this wrong fighting this grievance?

Not only did the taxpayers lose the quality of their care by removing staff, now they have to foot this bill to make things whole with those impacted. Good job AHS.

[JerryRig]

It has also been revealed (actually known all along) that the testing kits are erroneous causing too many false positives. They have been discontinued.

You might want to read the Global News reporting again, the BTNX rapid tests (green box) are giving erroneous false negative results. The tests are much less sensitive than advertised and tend to only pop a positive result if a person is very infectious - rather than giving a more accurate picture of whether or not an individual is infected more generally. The tests are still widely available, though, which is rather infuriating given the fact that we gave the company contracts to the tune of $2B and they falsified the testing data. Not to mention the fact that for a portion of the pandemic these were the only rapid tests available in any quantity, and many of us relied upon them to make health related decisions - are we infected with COVID or another respiratory infection, can we safely go visit elderly relatives, are we able to host a small get together, etc.?

https://globalnews.ca/news/10183219/cov ... er-canada/

https://globalnews.ca/news/10187791/cov ... ance-btnx/

If you want an investigation, push your MP to demand a full inquiry into the BTNX debacle and how a company with little to no experience in the field, managed to hoodwink Health Canada into accepting their modified data sets as gospel and then received massive government contracts to supply rapid tests.

You still don't understand that ALL the mainstream media are covering the scamdemic up because they are sucking from the government tit.

Here is what is REALLY happening:

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[Bingo Fuel]

Here is what is REALLY happening:
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Your picture does not state that the tests are either over reporting or under reporting, only that they are "not reliable".

[7ECA]

You're being intentionally obtuse in reading that memo as some sort of a "stone tablet" moment, that justifies all your quackery around anti-vaxxing and denying the pandemic.

The guidance listed is that healthcare facilities will no longer be using rapid tests as a guide for patient treatment. Take a nasal swab of suspected COVID or respiratory illness positive patients, and have it lab tested... is the current guidance. Wow, what an earth shattering revelation that is, that a hospital lab result is more accurate than a half-assed rapid test swab job that most people weren't doing correctly to begin with - oh, and from the BCCDC guidance are only accurate in showing infection between 3-7 days after being infected. So, useless in a healthcare setting in guiding treatment...

Again, I'm failing to see your assertion that "...testing kits are erroneous [sic] causing too many false positives. They have been discontinued." As a matter of fact the reporting is quite clear that rapid tests as a diagnostic tool are useful in a non-hospital setting, but when more accurate and sensitive tests are available (such as in a hospital setting) there is guidance to use the more accurate test. All that notwithstanding the clear issues around the efficacy of BTNX (green box) rapid tests.

[7ECA]

Your picture does not state that the tests are either over reporting or under reporting, only that they are "not reliable".

It just states that healthcare facilities have access to much more accurate/reliable testing methods, and that for patient care decisions a lab based test is the gold standard.

The same can be said of the reason for many situations requiring a PCR test, rather than accepting a rapid test result. The PCR test is significantly more sensitive, and thus accurate, versus a RAT which most people whom cannot follow instructions on how to properly microwave a pizza pop (and thus complain about still frozen, or bitch that they burned themselves...) really can't be expected to actually do the test accurately. Efficacy of the BTNX tests aside, RAT are still useful in an in the home setting for diagnosing non-severe cases of respiratory illness.

The fact that JerryRigged has gone from spouting how the vaccinated will soon be dropping like flies with his portents of "sudden and unexplained death(s)" to equating a bog standard paper pushing memo about how RATs aren't accurate enough to base healthcare decisions upon in a hospital setting, just shows how desperate these proto-fascist authoritarian theocrats are getting in their quest to remain "relevant".

[Bingo Fuel]

Jerry's COVID survival rate: 99.97%
1 dose: 1 in 800 = 99.875%
2 doses: 1 in 600 = 99.83%
3 doses: 1 in 400 = 99.75%

Jerry's two dose fatality figures are only 0.13% different from his own COVID death figure.

You did it again. Incorrectly assessed. You must work for the government. What it REALLY means is that 100,000 to 200,000 people in Canada have died so far. What do you call that. Safe?

Canada's population in 2023: 38,781,291
83.1% of Canadians are vaccinated https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... index.html

Therefore the number of vaccinated Canadians is 32,227,253

If Jerry is correct (he's not), and 200,000 Canadians have already died (they haven't), then the survival rate is: 99.38%

If a 99.97% survival is safe, is 99.38% that much less safe?

If 1 in 400 of the survivors die, that's still a 99.13% survival rate.

I am not going to attempt to disprove Jerry. He won't believe me. I will only continue providing analysis for the supposed fatality statistics he provides.

I do not work for the government, I do not vote Liberal, I do not support the WEF (or the IDU for that matter), and I don't believe that billionaires should exist.

I just want the fewest possible people to die. I think we can all agree on that.

[JerryRig]

Here is what is REALLY happening:
memo.jpg

Your picture does not state that the tests are either over reporting or under reporting, only that they are "not reliable".

Seriously? You can't draw a critical thinking line that the false positives created a false crisis and erroneous numbers?

[JerryRig]

Jerry's COVID survival rate: 99.97%
1 dose: 1 in 800 = 99.875%
2 doses: 1 in 600 = 99.83%
3 doses: 1 in 400 = 99.75%

Jerry's two dose fatality figures are only 0.13% different from his own COVID death figure.

You did it again. Incorrectly assessed. You must work for the government. What it REALLY means is that 100,000 to 200,000 people in Canada have died so far. What do you call that. Safe?

Canada's population in 2023: 38,781,291
83.1% of Canadians are vaccinated https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid ... index.html

Therefore the number of vaccinated Canadians is 32,227,253

If Jerry is correct (he's not), and 200,000 Canadians have already died (they haven't), then the survival rate is: 99.38%

If a 99.97% survival is safe, is 99.38% that much less safe?

If 1 in 400 of the survivors die, that's still a 99.13% survival rate.

I am not going to attempt to disprove Jerry. He won't believe me. I will only continue providing analysis for the supposed fatality statistics he provides.

I do not work for the government, I do not vote Liberal, I do not support the WEF (or the IDU for that matter), and I don't believe that billionaires should exist.

I just want the fewest possible people to die. I think we can all agree on that.

If you and 399 of your friends were invited to a party and there was a guarantee that IF you went, one of you WILL die, would you go? Or would you stay at home? Its that simple. Are you a gambler or do you use your pilot skills of risk mitigation?

[Bingo Fuel]

If you and 399 of your friends were invited to a party and there was a guarantee that IF you went, one of you WILL die, would you go? Or would you stay at home? Its that simple. Are you a gambler or do you use your pilot skills of risk mitigation?

This isn't about me. This is about you being inconsistent with your own risk mitigation. I would dispute all of your facts, but you won't believe me, so I won't waste your time with it.

If 99.97% isn't dangerous, then why is 99.75% dangerous? That's what 1 in 400 means.

[dontcallmeshirley]

Seriously? You can't draw a critical thinking line that the false positives created a false crisis and erroneous numbers?

Pregnancy tests were once shown to have a 24.3% false negative rate (with around 1% false positive).

Since they are unreliable, with your logic, we should stop people from taking the tests and tell them that they can drink and smoke if they get a positive result.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1650088/

[JerryRig]

Seriously? You can't draw a critical thinking line that the false positives created a false crisis and erroneous numbers?

Pregnancy tests were once shown to have a 24.3% false negative rate (with around 1% false positive).

Since they are unreliable, with your logic, we should stop people from taking the tests and tell them that they can drink and smoke if they get a positive result.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1650088/

Your logic behooves me

[JerryRig]

If you and 399 of your friends were invited to a party and there was a guarantee that IF you went, one of you WILL die, would you go? Or would you stay at home? Its that simple. Are you a gambler or do you use your pilot skills of risk mitigation?

This isn't about me. This is about you being inconsistent with your own risk mitigation. I would dispute all of your facts, but you won't believe me, so I won't waste your time with it.

If 99.97% isn't dangerous, then why is 99.75% dangerous? That's what 1 in 400 means.

Nope. It means what I responded with 400 people, you are one of them now play spin the bottle. I believe one of your politicians actually made the comment that even one death is too many. But you think 39,000,000.000 over 400 is fine? do the math. BTW, the answer is based on only 80% uptake is 78,000. That is 77,999 more than one. Under normal circumstances this would be considered genocide.

[JerryRig]

81 people know 6 people who died related to the injections.

[CpnCrunch]

81 people know 6 people who died related to the injections.

No they don't. They might know 6 people who died within a week of getting vaccinated, just like they might know 6 people who died within a week of eating cornflakes. Should we ban cornflakes?

[JerryRig]

81 people know 6 people who died related to the injections.

No they don't. They might know 6 people who died within a week of getting vaccinated, just like they might know 6 people who died within a week of eating cornflakes. Should we ban cornflakes?

If you've seen what I see, you wouldn't be disagreeing. BTW one can not live on on cornflakes along. Not that nutritious and WAY too much sugar. Can we agree on that?

[Bingo Fuel]

Okay, so once again, 99.97% survival is "just a cold", and totally acceptable to Jerry.

99.97% is approximately 1 in 900.

But 1 in 400 is unacceptable.

Here's the point I'm trying to get at:

The people who died from COVID, Jerry doesn't think those lives mattered.

The young people and athletes who supposedly died from the vaccine matter. But the COVID victims don't.

Therefore Jerry cherry picks the lives that matter to him.

As a reminder, the actual chances of dying from the vaccine is 1 in 1.296 million.

[JerryRig]

Okay, so once again, 99.97% survival is "just a cold", and totally acceptable to Jerry.

99.97% is approximately 1 in 900.

But 1 in 400 is unacceptable.

Here's the point I'm trying to get at:

The people who died from COVID, Jerry doesn't think those lives mattered.

The young people and athletes who supposedly died from the vaccine matter. But the COVID victims don't.

Therefore Jerry cherry picks the lives that matter to him.

As a reminder, the actual chances of dying from the vaccine is 1 in 1.296 million.

Do you remember that many of the deaths of "covid" was actually malpractice? The known incorrect protocol was applied. In addition to not differentiating between with covid and of covid.

We've been over this before. Are you TRYING to be dense or does it just come naturally? Geepers.