AMEs Done

[finalglide]

From AMFA press release, it looks like they did raise the bar:

TA2 provides for:

Immediate 15.5% increase without any shifting of monies from the WestJet Savings Plan (WSP)

Out year pay increases of 3.25%, 2.5%, 2.5%, 2.5% over the 5-year term

Overtime beyond eight hours within a pay period within a pay period paid at a 1.75 X rate

Anyone know how that compares to their initial ask?

[C-GGGQ]

Honestly thats decent. Interested to know how much TA2 improved. Sounds like previously WJ was just trying to shift money from wsp to wages without actually changing much. Congrats to the ame’s hard fought and rightfully earned

[Stu Pidasso]

Congratulations to the WJ AME's ! Anybody willing to say what the previous annual pay would have been?

[Fanblade]

From AMFA press release, it looks like they did raise the bar:

TA2 provides for:

Immediate 15.5% increase without any shifting of monies from the WestJet Savings Plan (WSP)

Out year pay increases of 3.25%, 2.5%, 2.5%, 2.5% over the 5-year term

Overtime beyond eight hours within a pay period within a pay period paid at a 1.75 X rate

Anyone know how that compares to their initial ask?

WJ stated before the strike they had offered 22% over 4 years I believe. What they weren’t telling the public is they were reducing pension compensation at the same time. On balance WJ wasn’t even offering inflation matching raises.

Compounded the deal is a little over 28% over 5 years plus they keep the pension.

The AMFA stated from the beginning they were only 8 million apart over the term of the agreement. It looks like maintenance got what they wanted.

But what a stupid strike. In case it isn’t clear that was targeted at WJ management.

[digits_]

From AMFA press release, it looks like they did raise the bar:

TA2 provides for:

Immediate 15.5% increase without any shifting of monies from the WestJet Savings Plan (WSP)

Out year pay increases of 3.25%, 2.5%, 2.5%, 2.5% over the 5-year term

Overtime beyond eight hours within a pay period within a pay period paid at a 1.75 X rate

Anyone know how that compares to their initial ask?

WJ stated before the strike they had offered 22% over 4 years I believe. What they weren’t telling the public is they were reducing pension compensation at the same time. On balance WJ wasn’t even offering inflation matching raises.

Compounded the deal is a little over 28% over 5 years plus they keep the pension.

The AMFA stated from the beginning they were only 8 million apart over the term of the agreement. It looks like maintenance got what they wanted.

But what a stupid strike. In case it isn’t clear that was targeted at WJ management.

Lol. So wait: WJ acknowledged they have/had trouble hiring new AMES, the union asks for a 15% raise and they have to strike go get it??

[daedalusx]

From AMFA press release, it looks like they did raise the bar:



Anyone know how that compares to their initial ask?

WJ stated before the strike they had offered 22% over 4 years I believe. What they weren’t telling the public is they were reducing pension compensation at the same time. On balance WJ wasn’t even offering inflation matching raises.

Compounded the deal is a little over 28% over 5 years plus they keep the pension.

The AMFA stated from the beginning they were only 8 million apart over the term of the agreement. It looks like maintenance got what they wanted.

But what a stupid strike. In case it isn’t clear that was targeted at WJ management.

Lol. So wait: WJ acknowledged they have/had trouble hiring new AMES, the union asks for a 15% raise and they have to strike go get it??

Yep and lost tens of millions in the process of "Waiting for clarity" from the feds who told them they weren't going to intervene. A shocking display of moronic strategy which again tells you a PhD doesn't make anyone smart.

[digits_]

Extrapolating from this single data point, a 15% raise per 48 hours strike... I wonder how long the AC strike will last!

[altiplano]

Extrapolating from this single data point, a 15% raise per 48 hours strike... I wonder how long the AC strike will last!

30 days should be good for 225% then.

[cdnavater]

Extrapolating from this single data point, a 15% raise per 48 hours strike... I wonder how long the AC strike will last!

The way I read it, they got what they asked for which was based on a survey after TA1 failed.
If they had been asking for 40% increases, plus, plus, plus.. who knows how long it could’ve lasted.
I’m curious if they secured any kind of “scope” protection from outsourcing? Decent raises are great but if the company can outsource your work, you can bet they will if it will save a dollar.
WJ management has show how vindictive they can be, hopefully Onex takes steps to remove this particular team and finds one that restores WJ culture!

[RippleRock]

Let's be crystal clear about what was achieved here wage increase wise.......

If you do some quick math, all of the "raise" they got will be 100% consumed by inflation going forward, or was eaten by inflation to this point.

They gained nothing substantial and are simply "treading water". To agree to three years at 2.5% is risky --at best-- when core inflation is running at 3% today.



FWIW.........most of us aren't even "keeping up" with what deals we're settled for, so I guess they are miles ahead in that context.
Overall, it's pretty sad.

Makes you wonder how shitty the original offer was.

[daedalusx]

Extrapolating from this single data point, a 15% raise per 48 hours strike... I wonder how long the AC strike will last!

The way I read it, they got what they asked for which was based on a survey after TA1 failed.
If they had been asking for 40% increases, plus, plus, plus.. who knows how long it could’ve lasted.
I’m curious if they secured any kind of “scope” protection from outsourcing? Decent raises are great but if the company can outsource your work, you can bet they will if it will save a dollar.
WJ management has show how vindictive they can be, hopefully Onex takes steps to remove this particular team and finds one that restores WJ culture!

There's quite a bit of AME shortage in Canada, Westjet even admitted they have problems hiring so I doubt that outsourcing would be much of a threat. KFC also has problems hiring.

[cdnavater]

Extrapolating from this single data point, a 15% raise per 48 hours strike... I wonder how long the AC strike will last!

The way I read it, they got what they asked for which was based on a survey after TA1 failed.
If they had been asking for 40% increases, plus, plus, plus.. who knows how long it could’ve lasted.
I’m curious if they secured any kind of “scope” protection from outsourcing? Decent raises are great but if the company can outsource your work, you can bet they will if it will save a dollar.
WJ management has show how vindictive they can be, hopefully Onex takes steps to remove this particular team and finds one that restores WJ culture!

There's quite a bit of AME shortage in Canada, Westjet even admitted they have problems hiring so I doubt that outsourcing would be much of a threat. KFC also has problems hiring.

I understand that but there are other countries that WJ flies to that could do some of the checks; routine maintenance and day to day stuff not likely. For all I know they probably already do this for heavier checks.

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