I am also going to be applying for an ATPL by end of June.

I called TC for an update last week and was told their system showed that it had a due date of the 12th and that I should hear something by the end of that week. Not sure what I expected but of course that deadline came and went and I've still heard nothing lol. Really sucks since its the only thing holding me back from the left seat (and associated pay increase) now

Edit: Got in touch with TC in the Atlantic region and about four hours later had a temp emailed to me

After submitting my application at the end of March, I finally had my label printed and a temporary license issued yesterday. The timeline for me seemed to be about 2.5 months at the Prairie and Northern office.

Initially I sent an email about a month in inquiring if they received my application to which they responded yes and gave me a due date timeline for the end of May. When that due date passed I just gave them a call, they put the application into a "priority sequence" and within a week it was done

Just curious if someone could provide some advice with regard to converting my ICAO ATPL to the Canadian equivalent.

Because of my route into aviation, and the requirements of the local regulators, I'm shy of the TC requirement for 250 hours PIC by roughly 100 hours. I do meet and exceed all of the other hour requirements however. I do have a Canadian PPL+Class 1 medical so I suppose I could come to Canada for a few weeks, rent an airplane and commit to making up those hours then write the SARON/SAMRA/INRAT as one would conventionally do.

Alternatively, I meet the requirements for the FAA ATP cert so was considering going to the US and doing the ATPCTP+ATM+multi engine practical test then using the FAA license to convert to a Canadian ATPL. In this instance the TC requirements are 900 hours in an airplane + FAAAA exam+ Canadian class 1 medical + FAA instrument proficiency Check (within the past 24 months). The advantage of doing it this way is that it would take less time, cost wise I've worked out to be roughly the same.

For background I've been working as an F/O on a wide body jet for a while.

I'm curious to know if anyone has any practical knowledge of how a TC licensing officer would view the FAA route? According to the C.A.R.s I've found no reference that expressly forbids it.

I'd appreciate anyone sharing their views or experience.

Applied for the ATPL at the Toronto office (Yonge Street) in person today. Books and all in hand. She told me “you won’t be seeing these for a while” end of summer best case scenario.

ATPL Processed August 9 2022. Just got an email from TC today to pick up my books. Painless experience. Dropping off in person is 100% the way to go!

Hello all,

I just want to pass on information I learned about logging PICUS time towards the ATPL. As per CARs 421.11 (4)(a), one might think that there is a 150 PIC requirement for the PICUS program. TC just clarified that it is NOT the case and there is no such requirement.

I recently got my ATPL, but I work for a foreign airline, so I had to do an IPC in a Canadian airplane to complete the process. I did the flight test in a Seminole with Cornwall Aviation - if you're coming from overseas, I highly recommend them!

Good Day,
I was just wondering if anyone has submitted their documents in person either in Toronto or Hamilton, and what the wait time was?
Cheers

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The Airline Transport Pilot License (ATPL) application process requires attention to detail and thorough preparation. Tips for success include ensuring all requirements are met, including flight experience and medical certifications, and submitting a well-organized and error-free application. It is also recommended to seek guidance from experienced pilots and aviation professionals throughout the process.

Teni1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:01 pm The Airline Transport Pilot License (ATPL) application process requires attention to detail and thorough preparation. Tips for success include ensuring all requirements are met, including flight experience and medical certifications, and submitting a well-organized and error-free application. It is also recommended to seek guidance from experienced pilots and aviation professionals throughout the process.

No way! Really? Lol

good day

Any feedback about the procees and waiting time until signed off

thank

helpful information

Submitted to a regional office on Thursday and the licensing office sent me a temp license on Tuesday (today). My books had to be sent to Hamilton and were shipped Thursday afternoon. Total wait time was 2 full business days to get the temp. If you need your ATPL immediately (for example to be released as a medevac captain) you can have management at your company give you a letter stating you require it for operational needs attached with a date you need the ATPL by and you will get a temp that is valid for 90 days very quickly. Impressive turn around time by TC on this one.

I submitted my application yesterday and interestingly enough, I was offered the option to submit it by email so i'll update the outcome here when I get my ATPL completed

dm you runway29

runway29 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:33 pm I submitted my application yesterday and interestingly enough, I was offered the option to submit it by email so i'll update the outcome here when I get my ATPL completed

Submitted to TC Atlantic via email on Jun 19, Approved on TC's website on Jul 31 and sticker in the mailbox on Aug 8

I brought my printed logbook (I use logtenpro to log) at TC's offices in Montreal on June 22, they called me today to come and pick up my binder and to sign my license, sticker should be in the mail. I wanted to signature right away, but I could have just waited for the sticker.

I have read on this tread that a PCC with a 604 carrier does not work as a group 1 renewal for the ATPL application. I personnally work for a 604 company and did a PCC in a full motion SIM and the guy told me that it was totally fine. I was on a PC12 in my previous job and my group 1 was not valid anymore. The person signing my license confirmed to me that it does not matter if its in a SIM (approved by TC) or in an actual aircraft as long as you have all the basics (SARON/SAMRA, PIC time etc..)

Hope this helps.

SA6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:36 pm I brought my printed logbook (I use logtenpro to log) at TC's offices in Montreal on June 22, they called me today to come and pick up my binder and to sign my license, sticker should be in the mail. I wanted to signature right away, but I could have just waited for the sticker.

I have read on this tread that a PCC with a 604 carrier does not work as a group 1 renewal for the ATPL application. I personnally work for a 604 company and did a PCC in a full motion SIM and the guy told me that it was totally fine. I was on a PC12 in my previous job and my group 1 was not valid anymore. The person signing my license confirmed to me that it does not matter if its in a SIM (approved by TC) or in an actual aircraft as long as you have all the basics (SARON/SAMRA, PIC time etc..)

Hope this helps.

Yeah the CARs say its got to be in a "Multi Engine Aircraft" however for the past 15+ years or more TC has accepted Level D Full motion sims without issue. 604, 704, 703, 705 op it doesn't matter. The letter of the law hasn't caught up with what TC actually does lol.

I’m getting ready to apply for my ATPL however half my time is from a former company as a copilot on a single pilot aircraft. My logbook has been certified by my old CP but doesn’t say that the hours were completed in a 2 crew environment. Is this necessary?

wcpilot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:00 pm I’m getting ready to apply for my ATPL however half my time is from a former company as a copilot on a single pilot aircraft. My logbook has been certified by my old CP but doesn’t say that the hours were completed in a 2 crew environment. Is this necessary?

I’d submit it. Assuming you logged those hours according to the regs and according to what your last employer had been approved by the minister to do.

Not sure how in depth the person in charge of approving files will be… Although some digging could come from their end to confirm, perhaps reach out to your old CP or the new one and ask for a copy of the page in their SOP’s that approves the utilization of a second crew member if your that worried about your application bouncing back?

All the best,

TPC

Submitted in person to Surrey office August 23rd. Status on TC Website changed to ATPL today (August 30). Waiting to hear regarding pickup of logbook.

Wammer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:32 pm Submitted in person to Surrey office August 23rd. Status on TC Website changed to ATPL today (August 30). Waiting to hear regarding pickup of logbook.

What? Where can you see what your license is on TC’s website?

FishermanIvan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:46 pm

Wammer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:32 pm Submitted in person to Surrey office August 23rd. Status on TC Website changed to ATPL today (August 30). Waiting to hear regarding pickup of logbook.

What? Where can you see what your license is on TC’s website?

I’m sure there’s a better way to do it but you can access your account through this. Change your address and see your licence history.

https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/change ... d-services