Good time to quit training?

[vermont]

I'd like to but people like "Mentour Pilot" who to me has a lot more credit than people on AV Canada said it's a 9/11 level impact

I don't understand; You have a "Mentour Pilot", whom you take to be more credible than the group here? Okay, but then why ask here if we are not credible?

Youtube guy like someone else said, people here are credible but with anonymity you don't know who actually knows what they're saying so you gotta average things out

[PilotDAR]

but with anonymity you don't know who actually knows what they're saying

In the context of the internet, what is anonymity? The fact that you can't associate a poster with their name or face? If you could associate a name or face to a post here, would that assure you that the poster knows what they're saying? I've heard the occasional person at the next table at the airport restaurant, who I know did not know what they were talking about (or at least were missing some important details)!

And, other posters, even with a few posts, you kinda know they're newbies, and to take their posts with a grain of salt. There have been a few posters here who appeared to jump in to advance themselves as mentors or otherwise going to tell you what you need to know about being a pilot. They were poorly received by long time posters here. And, there is the occasional poster for whom a 152 is their favourite plane. Hey that's okay, and I speak as a pilot who has owned the same 150 for 33 years now. It's one of 81 types I have flown. From that experience I wish for every pilot to have a favourite plane with a little more character than a 152. But... sure, every pilot has to start somewhere, so what you're most used to flying could be your favourite too - for now....

I can recall about ten years ago following the posts of another poster on another forum, and considering their posts with interest. I knew nothing more about the poster than their posts about piloting. That person appeared fairly informative. Then, to my considerable surprise, they post with pride that they had just done their first solo. Sure, be proud about that, though it certainly reset my base point of the credibility of that person's posts.

So, the posters (and Youtubers) of the internet have to earn your serious consideration as a result of your long term growing confidence in what they post, not a flash in the pan, or they seem to post what you wanted to read that day. When considering a poster, you might consider their number of posts, their rank, and the harmony of their posts with other posters of similar experience.

But, in the end, yes, it's different now... I used to teach my kids to look in someone's eyes for the truth as the person spoke to them, and to politely question anything they needed to. Now the users of the internet, can question, but looking someone in the eye is near impossible (I guess Youtube guy has something going there...). New skills in confidence building are necessary, as the age old skills are now inadequate. In exchange, there's a tremendous more information out there.

Ultimately, if you continued, or did not continue training, based upon what you read here, would you feel confident later with your decision? If you're training to be a pilot against your passion, just for the job, perhaps you would like to stop. If your passion is to fly because you love it, nothing will stop you!

[vermont]

but with anonymity you don't know who actually knows what they're saying

In the context of the internet, what is anonymity? The fact that you can't associate a poster with their name or face? If you could associate a name or face to a post here, would that assure you that the poster knows what they're saying? I've heard the occasional person at the next table at the airport restaurant, who I know did not know what they were talking about (or at least were missing some important details)!

And, other posters, even with a few posts, you kinda know they're newbies, and to take their posts with a grain of salt. There have been a few posters here who appeared to jump in to advance themselves as mentors or otherwise going to tell you what you need to know about being a pilot. They were poorly received by long time posters here. And, there is the occasional poster for whom a 152 is their favourite plane. Hey that's okay, and I speak as a pilot who has owned the same 150 for 33 years now. It's one of 81 types I have flown. From that experience I wish for every pilot to have a favourite plane with a little more character than a 152. But... sure, every pilot has to start somewhere, so what you're most used to flying could be your favourite too - for now....

I can recall about ten years ago following the posts of another poster on another forum, and considering their posts with interest. I knew nothing more about the poster than their posts about piloting. That person appeared fairly informative. Then, to my considerable surprise, they post with pride that they had just done their first solo. Sure, be proud about that, though it certainly reset my base point of the credibility of that person's posts.

So, the posters (and Youtubers) of the internet have to earn your serious consideration as a result of your long term growing confidence in what they post, not a flash in the pan, or they seem to post what you wanted to read that day. When considering a poster, you might consider their number of posts, their rank, and the harmony of their posts with other posters of similar experience.

But, in the end, yes, it's different now... I used to teach my kids to look in someone's eyes for the truth as the person spoke to them, and to politely question anything they needed to. Now the users of the internet, can question, but looking someone in the eye is near impossible (I guess Youtube guy has something going there...). New skills in confidence building are necessary, as the age old skills are now inadequate. In exchange, there's a tremendous more information out there.

Ultimately, if you continued, or did not continue training, based upon what you read here, would you feel confident later with your decision? If you're training to be a pilot against your passion, just for the job, perhaps you would like to stop. If your passion is to fly because you love it, nothing will stop you!

There was a guy JT8D who had a ton of posts (claimed to be a captian for 20 years bla bla bla) and basically every thing i looked up he said was wrong! Some other guys here said they hoped I'd crash because I though ramping was a bad practice.

The youtube guy is a line training captain for Ryanair (and they watch over everything he says) he's not my only source but 1 of many but I hope you see I won't just trust anyone.

If your passion is to fly because you love it, nothing will stop you!

The biggest issue is I'd be giving up on a lot of things to get it (home ownership, may even need to drag my wife to whatever remote place I get sent)

[PilotDAR]

but I hope you see I won't just trust anyone.

No problem, don't ask for an opinion to not trust!

[Ash Ketchum]

but with anonymity you don't know who actually knows what they're saying

In the context of the internet, what is anonymity? The fact that you can't associate a poster with their name or face? If you could associate a name or face to a post here, would that assure you that the poster knows what they're saying? I've heard the occasional person at the next table at the airport restaurant, who I know did not know what they were talking about (or at least were missing some important details)!

And, other posters, even with a few posts, you kinda know they're newbies, and to take their posts with a grain of salt. There have been a few posters here who appeared to jump in to advance themselves as mentors or otherwise going to tell you what you need to know about being a pilot. They were poorly received by long time posters here. And, there is the occasional poster for whom a 152 is their favourite plane. Hey that's okay, and I speak as a pilot who has owned the same 150 for 33 years now. It's one of 81 types I have flown. From that experience I wish for every pilot to have a favourite plane with a little more character than a 152. But... sure, every pilot has to start somewhere, so what you're most used to flying could be your favourite too - for now....

I can recall about ten years ago following the posts of another poster on another forum, and considering their posts with interest. I knew nothing more about the poster than their posts about piloting. That person appeared fairly informative. Then, to my considerable surprise, they post with pride that they had just done their first solo. Sure, be proud about that, though it certainly reset my base point of the credibility of that person's posts.

So, the posters (and Youtubers) of the internet have to earn your serious consideration as a result of your long term growing confidence in what they post, not a flash in the pan, or they seem to post what you wanted to read that day. When considering a poster, you might consider their number of posts, their rank, and the harmony of their posts with other posters of similar experience.

But, in the end, yes, it's different now... I used to teach my kids to look in someone's eyes for the truth as the person spoke to them, and to politely question anything they needed to. Now the users of the internet, can question, but looking someone in the eye is near impossible (I guess Youtube guy has something going there...). New skills in confidence building are necessary, as the age old skills are now inadequate. In exchange, there's a tremendous more information out there.

Ultimately, if you continued, or did not continue training, based upon what you read here, would you feel confident later with your decision? If you're training to be a pilot against your passion, just for the job, perhaps you would like to stop. If your passion is to fly because you love it, nothing will stop you!

There was a guy JT8D who had a ton of posts (claimed to be a captian for 20 years bla bla bla) and basically every thing i looked up he said was wrong! Some other guys here said they hoped I'd crash because I though ramping was a bad practice.

The youtube guy is a line training captain for Ryanair (and they watch over everything he says) he's not my only source but 1 of many but I hope you see I won't just trust anyone.

If your passion is to fly because you love it, nothing will stop you!

The biggest issue is I'd be giving up on a lot of things to get it (home ownership, may even need to drag my wife to whatever remote place I get sent)

I think it's smart you are thinking this way. I love to fly and I regret my decision to become a commercial pilot even though I started flying commercially about 5 years ago when the hiring situation was heating up. With this new slowdown, and my major airline dreams put on hold, I am looking at potential ways out of the industry.

Loving to fly is one thing but not being able to afford rent or food or car insurance can drag a persons morale down. Often I think about how life would have been if I would have just kept my old engineering job. I probably would own my own plane by now which I could fly for fun when and where I want instead of getting up at 4am to fly a 12 hour 6 leg day for 40k a year.

[vermont]

Yeah look at all the people who move to LA and wait tables instead of the acting job they thought they were going for! Follow your dreams often turns into ignore logic/reality. I do agree with what some people have said here though and I'll keep at it but at a much slower pace now

[altiplano]

It was never my "dream" to be a pilot, just seemed like it would be interesting and suit my lifestyle/earnings goals.

Somehow managed to navigate through the lower levels of this business during 9/11, SARs, Great Recession, etc.

Worked hard, rode a couple companies into the ground, the "hiring boom" the flight school told me about when I went to inquire never came, but it all worked out pretty good in the end.

I acknowledged that it doesn't work out for many/most though, but even with this "crisis" it's better than I have ever seen. I think you have to ask yourself if you're resilient and willing to do whatever it takes. If not, then you better save your money.

Nobody is owed or assured success in this business or in life.

[pul106]

Nobody is owed or assured success in this business or in life.

Spot on!

This virus scare is genuine, however if one needs certain assurances and "non-crisis" scenarios, it maybe asking too much. Best to save money, stress and play it safe!

[rookiepilot]

Clean shitters if you have to, to get where you want to go.

Many of us have.

If you're not willing to do that, and instead your plan is GoFund me to compete with the cancer patients, I've got no use for you.

[ayseven]

There is never a good or bad time to start something. Tomorrow comes no matter what.
And the Go Fund Me thing is a bit off to us, but in Europe, they have had benefactors for years, or did when I started flying. People would actually advertise looking for people to sponsor. Dunno what they got out of it - I was kind of afraid to ask.

[TalkingPie]

I'm also a little down on my training today, but I admit that has more to do with the fact that I bumped a wing against the gas pump while parking at the end of today's flight. Meeting with the chief pilot is forthcoming.

As far as larger current events go, I think it's too early to tell how bad it'll get for the industry. For those just starting out like myself, a lot can happen in the year or two before we're ready to go looking for our first jobs. Things could get better or worse, but I'm putting my money on the idea that there will still be people who want to take planes places, and the world will need pilots to fly them.

[telex]

The whole virus scare looks like it's just pooped the bubble, do the people here suggest anyone about to start or who doesn't have much invested should quit due to the bleak future?

Quit today.
It would have been better to quit three months ago to get ahead of the curve but hindsight and all that...

[vermont]

I'm also a little down on my training today, but I admit that has more to do with the fact that I bumped a wing against the gas pump while parking at the end of today's flight. Meeting with the chief pilot is forthcoming.

As far as larger current events go, I think it's too early to tell how bad it'll get for the industry. For those just starting out like myself, a lot can happen in the year or two before we're ready to go looking for our first jobs. Things could get better or worse, but I'm putting my money on the idea that there will still be people who want to take planes places, and the world will need pilots to fly them.

Tell us how this goes! I was actually afraid since it almost happened to me and I started my scan about 10 seconds before impact

[TalkingPie]

I'm also a little down on my training today, but I admit that has more to do with the fact that I bumped a wing against the gas pump while parking at the end of today's flight. Meeting with the chief pilot is forthcoming.

As far as larger current events go, I think it's too early to tell how bad it'll get for the industry. For those just starting out like myself, a lot can happen in the year or two before we're ready to go looking for our first jobs. Things could get better or worse, but I'm putting my money on the idea that there will still be people who want to take planes places, and the world will need pilots to fly them.

Tell us how this goes! I was actually afraid since it almost happened to me and I started my scan about 10 seconds before impact

I started a separate thread about it, so feel free to continue that discussion over there.