Love Letter to WestJet Employees

[Sulako]

How about this for a compromise: You contact whatever airline well in advance and explain that you are opposed to carrying gov't issued id, but you will happily show them a utility bill or a couple of letters from guarantors saying you are who you are. Perhaps even email them links to your forums and your youtube videos. Hell, you could make one especially for the flight. "This is Freeman Menard saying I'm Freeman Menard and I'd very much like to travel from Vancouver to Calgary" or whatever. That way they can have a little time to verify who you are using an alternate method rather than being confronted at the gate with it. I mean c'mon, the gate attendants aren't trained to deal with that so if you know it's going to be a problem in advance, and you do because you are smart enough to predict cause and effect, then you should at least give the airline a heads up so the people in charge can think it through and decide on an appropriate response, rather than provoking a frickin' gate agent and deciding to take huge umbrage at the inevitable and predictable negative result.

Man my head hurts from using big words. I'm just trying to keep up

[Mark-John]

when it comes to paying taxes. We all should pitch in to pay for things like streetlights and garbage pickup and public parks etc, and I think that includes anyone who is able to work.

Now I haven't read all the posts, and I'm sure you have figured out some way to tell yourself that you aren't legally bound to pay taxes, but what about morally? When I made a thousand bucks a month I still paid some tax on it. Why not you?

Dear Sulako

Do you know how many taxes there are in Canada? Where I am, Comox BC, there are over 200. Likely similar where you are are if you live in Canada.They include Income Tax, pst, gst, property and so on...I know what most of these taxes pay for. But what does income tax pay for? Do you really know where it goes. You may be surprised when you find out who receives this money. Look up Canada, the corporation, under the securities and exchange commission and see where it says revenue. Then you might be pissed and become a freeman. Do you know where your taxes go? Or do you think you know. Understand just a small bit of the Income Tax Act and you'll wonder why you're even paying that tax. Understand the federal Reserve and who controls it and you might view your money differently or ask to be paid in gold from now on. When you discover that our country is one of the riches countries in the world and our resources are being milked from us by foreigners...well that should get your jet fuel burning.

peace
Mark

[lilfssister]

Well, I am usually a no show on political debate, but:

The roads I drive on, street lights, parks, recreation facilities, the schools my neighbors send their kids to, their school bus usage, water and sewer, fire services, police services, doctors, hospitals, diagnostic services, to name a few are where my taxes go?

[Mark-John]

Sulaka , I like your idea cause here's my problem.


Good day West Jest employees

First off, I wandered over to this forum after reading about this issue on another site. Admittedly I am an active member of the thinkfree forums however I thought I would chine in since this an issue which may affect me.

I live in the Comox Valley where my family regularly uses WJ to fly between here and Alberta. I have not used your service as of yet but like Rob my aging father in Alberta has taken a turn. (nothing serious yet).

I was wondering if I could make arrangements with WJ before hand as to insure my boarding without havint to use government issued ID. Sort of a ‘yea we know this guy’ arrangement. I can show ID, just not government issued ID.

Why don’t I just get some gov. ID one might ask? I tried. Three times this year and each time they sent me ID with my name spelled incorrectly. I do not spell my name with all capital letters. I spell it Xxxx Xxxx: Xxxxxxxx. I do not understand how a simple thing like this is so perplexing to an agency that issues ID.

Not only this but this ID is also not my property. It says so right on the back. If you have a British Columbia Drivers License or BCID, read the fine print on the back at the top. (“This card remains the property of the issuing agency and must be surrendered upon request”). Ok then this ID is not my property and the name is spelled wrong. Semantics you might say. Then why can’t they spell my name correctly and not claim the ID as their property?

Because you are their “property” as long as they deal with the person or the corporation they created. This is why they spell my name with all CAPS. They only see me as a Corporation. Something they created and control.

Under their definition look up the meaning of ‘person’. It does not say man or woman. It says; includes a corporation.

Anyways, I would just like to know that if I need to fly to Alberta that I don’t need to use ID that is fraudulent (like gov. ID). It would be nice to establish a good relationship with West Jet with reasonable restrictions necessary to travel safely.

peace
Mark

[Mark-John]

Well, I am usually a no show on political debate, but:

The roads I drive on, street lights, parks, recreation facilities, the schools my neighbors send their kids to, their school bus usage, water and sewer, fire services, police services, doctors, hospitals, diagnostic services, to name a few are where my taxes go?

That's correct lilfssister, your taxes do pay for those services and benefits. There are about 200 taxes used to pay for those services and benefits.

But what does Income Tax pay for?

[Widow]

But what does income tax pay for? Do you really know where it goes. You may be surprised when you find out who receives this money. Look up Canada, the corporation, under the securities and exchange commission and see where it says revenue.

Most of us know the interest payments on Canada's public debt are the biggest payment made using public dollars. This is the same pretty much the world over and IMHO sucks. We were shortsighted, to put it kindly, to do things the way we do and I dunno how we're gonna fix it.

But our income taxes ALSO go to Old Age Security, EI, health care, education, social and public services, infrastructure, farmers, foreign aid, First Nations, research and development, and a whole trainload full of other things including the costs of operating a government.

We may not like all of these things, or agree with how the funds are dispersed -

But that has nothing to do with not getting on a WestJet flight because Freeman Menard didn't have any government issued ID.

If you want to live in your own little world - that valley Cat offered to help you find?! - where you don't have to follow all the rules, more power to you. But it is not fair (and don't you keep professing to not want to cause harm to others?) to expect others to tow the line on your behalves for things they don't agree with.

I think I'm right in saying almost everyone here thinks that it is a GOOD thing that verifiable government issued ID must be shown prior to boarding a commercial air carrier in order to ensure you are not a terrorist or some such thing. I think most of us resent the idea that, despite objecting to our governance and not wanting to pay for government services, you would use those same services in order to fight it.

[lilfssister]

Provincial or Federal?

A chunk of my Federal income tax goes to transfer payments to the provinces for...well...some of the stuff listed above.

Other Federal income tax $ goes to search and rescue, maintaining ports/wharves, navigation buoys for shipping, coastal patrols for pollution and fisheries violations, the beloved by many here Transport Canada Civil Aviation people, etc, etc...

[JakeYYZ]

Theoretically, property owners and business pay for schools, municipal water, sewage, street lights, municipal roads, police, garbage collection and fire service. Medical services are a Provincial matter.
City parks and city recreational facilities are primarily funded through property tax and business tax. At one time, only property owners had the right to vote municipally and Provincially.

[lilfssister]

I assume the 200 taxes mentioned include municipal, provincial and federal?

I am a (multiple) property owner, and pay taxes at all three levels, as well as GST and sales taxes.

[Widow]

Where you tax dollar goes

[Sulako]

Actually I don't mind you using the system to fight itself - I think it's healthy to question authority on a regular basis. I just question whether your tax stance is more of convenience or conviction. I wonder whether there are any conditions in which you'd consent to paying taxes - I think you'd just point to isolated instances of corruption (inevitable in any large company) and say "A-ha! See! Corruption! If I had paid tax, some of that money might have been wasted!". Because you know all I can say in reply is "Yup" There will be corruption and waste, and bad stuff will continue to happen to good people. But despite all that, we have streetlights and cops and public pools and national radio and gov't weather and that's because enough money does get through to do some good. I don't mind you fighting to make sure that more and more of our money is spent wisely, but I think it's unfair that you decide not to pay anything in the interim when clearly it does some good, and everyone else chips in.
You know, to pay for the general standard of living we enjoy. I think that if you don't make much money you shouldn't have to pay much tax, but I think that every working person should pay a little, even if it's a tiny token amount for someone making minimum wage, like a few bucks a cheque. It's symbolic as well as practical - it shows that we are all in this together and it helps to pay for our general common standard of living. I won't use the word 'society' because it seems to be an inflammatory one to you fine folks, so I'll just say we are all brothers and sisters and we can do great things if we work together. And by 'work together' I mean "put money into a common fund to have people do stuff for us", which is the general point of government, even if they screw it up from time to time. If you don't want to chip in then why not go live in a cabin in the woods somewhere? Refusing to pay any taxes while enjoying the rewards that our tax dollars buy (however ineffieciently, that's a topic for an entirely different thread and it's not actually even relevant here in larger argument) is downright selfish. I pay to live in a first-world country and so should you. On a tangent, go Canada! Boo-yah! Best place in the world!. I just had to say that. I'm a huge fan of Canada and Canadians in general. We have the most amazing country on the planet, so let's acknowledge that once in a while!

Anyway, unfortunately you have lost me on the whole tax thing, but I'll listen to the rest of your message I guess.

[lilfssister]

Sully...have I told you lately that I love you?

[Widow]

Well, looking at what I've done the last few years, I don't mind anyone using the system to fight itself either

I object, though, to someone who doesn't pay for the system, to use that same system. (Who's paying the judge, the crown lawyer, etc. in all these lawsuits? The taxpayer, no - at least in part?)

[tehmastermonk]

Well, I am usually a no show on political debate, but:

The roads I drive on, street lights, parks, recreation facilities, the schools my neighbors send their kids to, their school bus usage, water and sewer, fire services, police services, doctors, hospitals, diagnostic services, to name a few are where my taxes go?

you are sort of correct, you see, income tax, goes towards the national debt. you see, as of 1933 the country went into a state of bankruptcy. the preceeding depression was in anticipation of this event, and when the govt went to pay up htere was not enough money.

so what happend was in simple form the governments of Canada and the United States, were forced to take real substance (gold) out of commerce to pay the debt, and our dollar as of then was not backed by gold, as there was none in the reserve banks. so then the two countries went on a promise to pay system, and thier coladeral for this huge credit line
was thier population's future commerce they would generate.And thus you have human resources.the debt was discharged into the future and onto the coming generations.

this is why the government wants people to registar thier children, and the borth certificate created is evidence of another future taxpayer.

in short it was a fancy form of a sweat equity contract, and this created the need for income tax, wich the people consented to under the condition that the tax would be disolved once the debt was paid.

unknown to the people at the time, the debt credit system is designed in such a way to never get out of debt.


that is a very crude and quick explanation of why we have income tax, and what those particular taxes go to pay.

road tax pays for roads. tobacco and alchohol taxes pay for school systems, and in alberta at least it is the taxes and revenue generated from gambling taht pay the health care system not sure what it is in B.C.

so yes, taxes pay for many of the services your society enjoys, but there are sereral different kinds of tax. and income tax (the biggest one) pays only to the national debt.

[tehmastermonk]

in order for you to better understand where we come from, i wil paste in an parts of a post on the thinkfreeforums.org site.

Here goes.

I have come to conclude in my study of county government and the history of voting in Canada that being a citizen means you are part of the militia. That's why you (I mean your PERSON) are a Private in the Canadian Citizen Soldier Reserves. The Queen is the head of the military.

The propaganda of our schooling and mind set to avoid taxes has lead most of as not to see our true remedy. Why would we even look there! You see, the CRA (or the IRS) is our remedy. The very institution we avoid is what we need to understand.
If you read about the Bank of Canada and know what I know it all comes together.

http://www.bank-banque-canada.ca/en/about/are.html

The Bank was founded in 1934 as a privately owned corporation. In 1938, it became a Crown corporation belonging to the federal government. Since that time, the Minister of Finance has held the entire share capital issued by the Bank. Ultimately, the Bank is owned by the people of Canada.

http://www.bank-banque-canada.ca/en/about/history.html

Soon after the Bank opened, a new government introduced an amendment to the Bank of Canada Act to nationalize the institution. In 1938, the Bank became publicly owned and remains that way today.

The organization of the Bank integrated new functions with functions that already existed elsewhere. Bank note operations were transferred from the Department of Finance when the Bank opened, and the offices of the Receiver General across the country became the agencies of the Bank.
This is where our private account is. We are joint-trustees with the Receiver General but were never told. We have a duty to make sure the accounts are adjusted properly in our favour, not the corporations. We are authorized representatives of our PERSON. That is our Title.

We have a Receiver General because Canada is bankrupt. We (the people) own the Bank of Canada. The Minister of National Revenue is the Trustee of the Bankruptcy. CRA is the accountant of the bankruptcy. The Courts are the judicial enforcement of the bankruptcy.

The corporations are supposed to fill out tax forms and send us a copy of them every time we spend over $5.00. They don't. No big surprise here. So what we are doing is filling out the forms ourselves and sending CRA the forms so they can go get our funds, adjust the account and then return the funds to us. Corporations were never meant to make a profit. They capture this private credit as abandoned funds and create interest against it. That's why they have billions of dollars of profit, it's our credit. Corporations were designed to do a certain function under limited liability and when it was done it was to be dissolved. In this system it cannot be dissolved. We have a social credit system already in place.

Since there is no real money, we are living in a world of commercial paper. Everything we sign is a piece of commercial paper and is monetized and sold on the open market. EVERYTHING. The whole public money system is based on this capturing of our private credit. The public money is the INTEREST on this private credit. If everyone started filing these forms there would eventually be no public money. Interest is 100% TAX.

The forms to accomplish this are these: (Remember these are the forms the Corporation we pay are supposed to fill out for us.)-----end of paste

[tehmastermonk]

i posted that to not only help you understand our point of view, and to better answer your question about taxes. the material there n that post was not my research but anothers, and some of the things in there are for responsible adults and how to administrate your own affairs and dealing with Canada Revenue in a peaceful, and honourable way rather than just flip them the finger and throw a tantrum in form of some silly protest rally where we yell and throw things at some clowns in suits.

as i said, there is more than one way to skin a cat, and i hope i wet your lips enough that you may inquire into that little piece i posted and look into it yourself.

you will find that it is correct in every way, and can be applied in dealing with them honourably as a creditor and not a debtor. see? there is more than one way to skin a cat!

we freemen are free to do these things.

[tehmastermonk]

Well, looking at what I've done the last few years, I don't mind anyone using the system to fight itself either

I object, though, to someone who doesn't pay for the system, to use that same system. (Who's paying the judge, the crown lawyer, etc. in all these lawsuits? The taxpayer, no - at least in part?)

what you havent realized yet, is that the parts of the system we use, are courts and law enforcement, and those are not paid for by income tax. they are paid by the general postmaster.(well at least thats where judges checks origonate from) research done properly will break alot of things you have been assuming your whole life! dofferent taxes pay for different things. and a freeman decides what taxes he wants to pay, and what ones he doesnt want to pay. you people dont have that choice. you have to pay it all, and get penuts in return, and while we have rights, you have waived those and in thier place you have "privelages of society".here is an example:

if a freeman wants electricity to his house that he owns, he agrees and may or may not negotiate a contract with the city, and establish an agreement for that service, and agree to pay taxes on that property only if he consents to, and due to his raised level of awarnes, he has the knowledge to negotiate the terms of that contract rather than just sign teh doted line. however that same freeman does not agree with assuming the debt incurred by the misappropriation of funds of previous generateions, so he will sever himself from income tax, or, he may pay the amount he deides, and does not have the government decide that for him.

not all freemen expatriate thier citizenship. freedom is not a legal status,does not rely upon the recognitin of others. we are more aware of your choices and make those choices differently that the status quo. a freeman approaches everything differently and to those uninformed we at first seem like trouble makers causeing a disturbance.

a freeman chooses for himself what he consents and does not consent to. we have actual rights, that our forefathers faught in wars for, and we in our way also pay a price for,

whereas you people have only privelages that can be taken wihtout reason.

as the saying goes, the best slave is the one that thinks he is free.

i have the power to persue destiny. you have only a privelage to dream.

[Rotten Apple #1]

And to think I had such high hopes for the internet.

I gotta pull a 7500 on this one too. Check out http://www.thinkfree.ca and register so you can browse their threads. I like the idea of spending less on taxes and reducing government, but these whackos...wow. At least .... can spell...

Maybe these freemen can help my former neighbour, ......(say it slowly for maximum effect) as she battles to maintain her home with no running water and an outhouse. Read about her wacky ideas here:

Maybe we could just give them a piece of land and they could live together and theorize and plot. Perhaps New Brunswick would do. Or maybe Prince George. I don't know. Somewhere.

[Cat Driver]

If you guys hire me to find that valley you want to live in I can also fly any stuff you need in there in the Husky and you won't feel you are working with the system because I won't have an operating certificate.

[Widow]

Who pays the general postmaster? Who pays for maintenance and security in the courthouse? Who pays the stenographer? Who pays the person that posts the judgement to the internet?

[Rockie]

its called ex-patriate your citizenship for yout informaion, and yes, i have. your claim that no freemen have done this is an assumption for one, and for two, expatriation is not necessary to be a freeman.

I didn't claim that no freemen have renounced their citizenship, I said Freeman Menard hasn't. I know he hasn't, but no matter how many times I ask him he doesn't seem to understand the question. And that's pretty funny since he claims to be a smart guy, but can't seem to grasp a question any simpleton over ten years of age could.

Since you say you have, what is your citizenship now?

[Mark-John]

... I think it's unfair that you decide not to pay anything in the interim when clearly it does some good, and everyone else chips in.

You know, to pay for the general standard of living we enjoy. I think that if you don't make much money you shouldn't have to pay much tax, but I think that every working person should pay a little, even if it's a tiny token amount for someone making minimum wage, like a few bucks a cheque.

I'm a huge fan of Canada and Canadians in general. We have the most amazing country on the planet, so let's acknowledge that once in a while!

Sulako, I am not one who expects a free ride. I pay for services I receive. That includes fuel tax, property tax, school tax, medical tax and taxes on many other benefits. The list is long as you can appreciate.

We get one chance every four years to hire administrators to govern or manage our country, our province and our municipality or district. We have the managers or politicians in place that we deserve. There is no one to blame but ourselves for that. The responsibility of how our politicians govern is ours. We can take the credit and the blame for any mess that is created by the people we appoint to govern our affairs. We have allowed the politicians to become non-accountable. That’s not governments fault…it’s our fault, period. Soon after an election our politician’s forget that they work for us and soon begin to work and legislate in the interest of bankers, insurance companies and foreign corporation. If you don’t believe me then you’re…wait, what am I thinking…of course you believe me. This happens like clock-work.

Yes Sulako, we’re all in this together. I don’t mind that the Dominion of Canada ceased to exist in the early 1900 and became CANADA INC. and is a bankrupt nation run by a defacto government. Its ok that you’re a government employee(SIN #) contracted out to another corporation (West Jet) then pay a commission (Income Tax) to a collection agency (CCRA) who in turn pays the never ending compound interest on a debt created by another corporation( Federal Reserve) which has accountability to no one. I don’t mind because we are all in this together. Really I don’t mind as long as they don’t treat me like a child or a slave.

The difference sometimes is that some want to make the government accountable while others can hold the government accountable.

Canada is the greatest country in the world and that’s why it’s worth saving. Keep this country for our children’s children and not for the banksters to chop up and sell out.

Peace
Mark

[sarg]

Who pays the general postmaster? Who pays for maintenance and security in the courthouse? Who pays the stenographer? Who pays the person that posts the judgement to the internet?

Widow you're asking questions, as we have already established these people don't answer questions. The only lecture and ask questions.

Look at Freeman Merard and disingenuous statement that he wants to find "common ground."
He reserves for himself the right to question and further questions based upon the answers supplied, accompanied by the lectures. But he but has not had the courtesy to respond to any of the numerous questions I have poised to him.

His claim starting this whole thread about a right to fly being denied, this was the first question that I asked, I am still waiting for the proof that such a right exists. So I assume he meant the right to mobility, which if a previous poster is correct about him being on a cross Canada trip, appears to have not been denied after all.

Off on holidays myself, maybe I'll have answers to my questions when I return, then I can respond in kind.

[Dash-Ate]

Well, in one way I think good on you for giving it a shot, but in another way I think you really have to pick your battles and I wonder if this is all worth it. Like, do you have any energy left over at the end of a long day's defending your freeman sovereign right to be a sovereign freeman or whatever? I'd hate to think how you'd react to a parking ticket, .....

Did you say a parking ticket? A contract for which you have not consented or applied your autograph, for which there is no consideration or a meeting of the minds? We love parking tickets; so much so that we have an entire forum dedicated to exactly that.

If you want to see how we deal with these, feel free to browse. Your input would be appreciated; sometimes another set of fresh eyes on an issue helps!

cheers,
Micha

Was this posted yet?

Someone took it to the top.

Maybe some on here can ridicule this DOCTOR (I think I hear she is one?) who led the fight.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoa ... 1-sun.html

A Toronto woman who launched a $26-million class- action lawsuit over frozen parking meters will get to fight another day, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled yesterday.

The high court's decision means the city will have to fight Anna Marie Arenson's contention that Toronto parking enforcement officers shouldn't hand out tickets when cold weather freezes up parking meters and makes it impossible for drivers to obtain receipts.

[snoopy]

tehmastermonk, you said: "you are sort of correct, you see, income tax, goes towards the national debt. you see, as of 1933 the country went into a state of bankruptcy. the preceeding depression was in anticipation of this event, and when the govt went to pay up htere was not enough money.

so what happend was in simple form the governments of Canada and the United States, were forced to take real substance (gold) out of commerce to pay the debt, and our dollar as of then was not backed by gold, as there was none in the reserve banks. so then the two countries went on a promise to pay system, and thier coladeral for this huge credit line
was thier population's future commerce they would generate.And thus you have human resources.the debt was discharged into the future and onto the coming generations.

this is why the government wants people to registar thier children, and the borth certificate created is evidence of another future taxpayer.

in short it was a fancy form of a sweat equity contract, and this created the need for income tax, wich the people consented to under the condition that the tax would be disolved once the debt was paid."

Income tax was actually a war tax: http://www.duhaime.org/LegalResources/C ... -1917.aspx

The Birth of Income Tax (1917)

BY 1917, CANADA had had its share of unique finance ministers.

There had been Alexander Galt, Canada's first minister of finance, who had resigned before the first Parliament had even met.

His successor, Sir Francis Hincks caused the resignation from the Conservative ranks of one of it's brightest young backbenchers.

That same backbencher, Richard Cartwright became Minister of Finance during the short four-year reign of the Right Hon. Alexander Mackenzie.

Sir Wilfrid Laurier quelled a separatist provincial government in Nova Scotia by bringing its premier into the federal cabinet, as finance minister.

William Fielding remained at the position for 15 consecutive years, and later returned under Mackenzie King in 1921 for another four.

It was during the 10-year hiatus in Fielding's cabinet career that Conservative Prime Minister Robert Borden appointed Sir Thomas White (pictured, left) to the ministry.

White, a lawyer and former trust company manager, would soon be entrusted with the finances of the young Dominion during the terrible crisis of World War I.

On April 24, 1917, White tabled his annual budget in the House of Commons.

Despite the recent entry of the United States into the conflict, the military requirements of the allies was draining the resources of Canada.

From Baghdad to the North Sea, men, equipment and supplies were in constant need.

The cost of the war to Canada had reached $600-million, White told the House. Already, Great Britain and the United States had implemented income tax schemes but, added White, "it would appear to me that income tax should not be resorted to (in Canada)."

At least not until the House went into Committee of the Whole, on July 25, 1917.

On that day, the 50-year old finance minister tabled a resolution which called for income tax: 4% on all income of single men over $2,000. For others, the personal exemption was $3,000. For those Canadians with annual incomes of more than $6,000, the tax rate ranged from 2 to 25 per cent.

SIR THOMAS WHITE - Minister of Finance (Leeds): Mr. Chairman, I desire today to lay before this committee proposals for a national measure of income taxation. Hitherto we have relied upon duties of customs and of excise, postal rates and other miscellaneous sources of revenue. Canada has been, and will continue during the lifetime of those present today, to be a country inviting immigration. I have, therefore, thought it desirable that we should not be known to the outside world as a country of heavy individual taxation.

We are, however, confronted with grave conditions arising out of the war. The time has arrived when we must resort to direct taxation. I am confident, Mr. Chairman, that the people of Canada, whose patriotism during this war has been so often and so nobly proven, will, in light of present conditions, which call for it, cheerfully accept the burden and the sacrifice of this additional taxation.

We cannot see very far ahead in these days. We do not know how long this war will last. We do not know what the attitude of the people of this country will be upon the many questions, social, industrial, financial and fiscal. Therefore, I have placed no time limit upon this measure but merely have placed upon Hansard the suggestion that, a year or two after the war is over, the measure should be reviewed by the minister of finance of the day, with a view of judging whether it is suitable to the conditions which then prevail.

White hoped his tax would not much outlast the war.

In fact, he insisted on calling his bill the "War Tax Upon Income" bill.

But conventional wisdom was best expressed by opposition finance critic, Alexander Maclean (Maclean).

"I have no doubt," said Maclean, "that once we have embarked upon it, the judgement of the country will be that it should be continued for many years to come."

Maclean was not to be mistaken.

Soon, a hundred years will have passed since the federal government received the authority to levy a temporary "war" income tax upon Canadians.

Published: Tuesday, September 11, 2007
Last updated: Wednesday, September 12, 2007
By: LloydDuhaime