The Air Canada OTS thread

[Juniorpilot]

No news is good news. Your time waiting depends on your experience and qualifications. So if you have a degree, 705 jet PIC experience, etc… You’ll get put to the top of the list. If you have less experience, not much PIC, no postsecondary etc… It’ll take longer for them to get to you. So no news is good news.

The HR system at AC is a weird animal.
I've seen people with 2200 TT no 705PIC but a degree to be called. I've seen others with no degree and no 705 PIC and 2500TT getting called.
I've also seen 705 PIC captain with 4500TT not even getting called for an interview...

The thing that could also make the file processing a bit slower is either the references taking their time to reply to AC or the MMPI test being either not good or the company processing the test losing the test in the system hence delaying giving the results.

Thanks for the heads up everyone, I would wait and see what goes on.

Did mine late november as well and still nothing, FYI. +2000TT/+1000h 705. Hopefully soon!

[alkaseltzer]

When your country has the the world's cheapest pilots and the corps knows the tremendous labour cost advantage they have, I would hope they would expand

Imagine sweat shops in China. That is pilots in this country.

Being illiterate is a key staple of many posters on the internal pilot forums.

Now, being illiterate AND trying to sound like an economist, lawyer, accountant

AC should mandate an annual literacy test. Hooked on Phonics for Jazz-stronauts would be "wokefully" fair.

[flyboy88]

Those of you who did interview in November, how many of you have gotten a background check request or heard anything?

[orangejuice]

I interviewed in November and did my background check early December, heard nothing since.

[PostmasterGeneral]

Calls went out on Tuesday, for the Feb 6th ground school.

[tata324]

Those of you who did interview in November, how many of you have gotten a background check request or heard anything?

I did mine towards the end of November and heard nothing from them. I have checked in twice with them and was told my file is still pending and awaiting a final decision. I also haven't received the background check request either. So I guess you're not the only one in that boat. Nothing was said about the medical or psych eval, so I am assuming all is well on that end, Background 4200 jet time TT 4400+/ with aviation Msc.

[a2btrail]

Calls also going out for Feb 22.

[flyboy88]

Those of you who did interview in November, how many of you have gotten a background check request or heard anything?

I did mine towards the end of November and heard nothing from them. I have checked in twice with them and was told my file is still pending and awaiting a final decision. I also haven't received the background check request either. So I guess you're not the only one in that boat. Nothing was said about the medical or psych eval, so I am assuming all is well on that end, Background 4200 jet time TT 4400+/ with aviation Msc.

Oh ok, glad to hear I'm not the only one who still haven't heard anything. I guess no news is good news.

[flying4dollars]

Those of you who did interview in November, how many of you have gotten a background check request or heard anything?

I did mine towards the end of November and heard nothing from them. I have checked in twice with them and was told my file is still pending and awaiting a final decision. I also haven't received the background check request either. So I guess you're not the only one in that boat. Nothing was said about the medical or psych eval, so I am assuming all is well on that end, Background 4200 jet time TT 4400+/ with aviation Msc.

Oh ok, glad to hear I'm not the only one who still haven't heard anything. I guess no news is good news.

I waited 3 months for a call in 2022 No news is def good news.

[bobcatdriver]

Calls also going out for Feb 22.

All hiring finished by June 2023?

[jpilot77]

Calls also going out for Feb 22.

All hiring finished by June 2023?

Usually a hiring pause during the summer and it starts back up in September (last year they hired throughout the summer but they only started hiring in the spring).

[a2btrail]

Calls also going out for Feb 22.

All hiring finished by June 2023?

Hiring will carry on throughout the summer. Potentially a slight tapper in numbers but from what I've been made aware of hiring will continue through summer 2023.

[cdnavater]

Calls also going out for Feb 22.

All hiring finished by June 2023?

Hiring will carry on throughout the summer. Potentially a slight tapper in numbers but from what I've been made aware of hiring will continue through summer 2023.

verb: taper
diminish or reduce in thickness toward one end
tapper
one who taps something or produces a tapping sound
Just saying;)

[NotDirty!]

All hiring finished by June 2023?

Hiring will carry on throughout the summer. Potentially a slight tapper in numbers but from what I've been made aware of hiring will continue through summer 2023.

verb: taper
diminish or reduce in thickness toward one end
tapper
one who taps something or produces a tapping sound
Just saying;)

Considering the number of new hires, there is bound to be a tapper amongst their numbers!

[olivierw]

Apparently calls for Feb 8th start date (Feb 13th in person) are going out.

[indieadventurer]

8000+ TT with 500+ PIC 737 and university degree.

Haven’t been able to get an interview since posting went up in the spring.

Anyone else with a similar background hearing nothing?

[daedalusx]

8000+ TT with 500+ PIC 737 and university degree.

Haven’t been able to get an interview since posting went up in the spring.

Anyone else with a similar background hearing nothing?

Yup I’ve heard of a few drivers in your situation and yet plenty of sub 3000 hours are getting the call.

AC works in mysterious ways

[orangejuice]

Apparently calls for Feb 8th start date (Feb 13th in person) are going out.

So 3 PIT courses in February… 6,13,22? That seems like a lot

[jpilot77]

Apparently calls for Feb 8th start date (Feb 13th in person) are going out.

So 3 PIT courses in February… 6,13,22? That seems like a lot

There are rumours that they still want to get to 6000 pilots by summer 24. They’re running classes every 2 weeks now.

[rudder]

Apparently calls for Feb 8th start date (Feb 13th in person) are going out.

So 3 PIT courses in February… 6,13,22? That seems like a lot

There are rumours that they still want to get to 6000 pilots by summer 24. They’re running classes every 2 weeks now.

AC will need the extra 1000 to do the Express flying. Will also need to review NB fleet requirements.

[alkaseltzer]

Apparently calls for Feb 8th start date (Feb 13th in person) are going out.

So 3 PIT courses in February… 6,13,22? That seems like a lot

There are rumours that they still want to get to 6000 pilots by summer 24. They’re running classes every 2 weeks now.

Fat chance...aircraft production is delayed.

[Vanguard]

Apparently calls for Feb 8th start date (Feb 13th in person) are going out.

So 3 PIT courses in February… 6,13,22? That seems like a lot

There are rumours that they still want to get to 6000 pilots by summer 24. They’re running classes every 2 weeks now.

It was 6300 in 2026. The amount of wrong information here is nuts.

700 more this year with GS every 2 weeks is the aim.

1100 Oct 2023-Oct 2024 and

700 Oct2024-2025



Retirement Average is at 121 all the way upto 2037. AVERAGE. Some years its 60-70 some it'll be 120+.

[thepoors]

So 3 PIT courses in February… 6,13,22? That seems like a lot

There are rumours that they still want to get to 6000 pilots by summer 24. They’re running classes every 2 weeks now.

It was 6300 in 2026. The amount of wrong information here is nuts.

700 more this year with GS every 2 weeks is the aim.

1100 Oct 2023-Oct 2024 and

700 Oct2024-2025



Retirement Average is at 121 all the way upto 2037. AVERAGE. Some years its 60-70 some it'll be 120+.

Can you explain why there is such a frantic hiring push going on right now? Why not spread it out?

Just looking at the numbers here: ~120 retirements/yr doesn't seem to warrant so much hiring. 120/yr for the next 14yrs is only 1700. Why do they need 2500 new hires by 2026? There is little, if any, fleet growth happening. I can easily see any downturn causing a surplus situation ripe for layoffs.

[sstaurus]

Only what I’ve been told.. but Apparently they were short even before covid. And another 8-900 is for the new duty rules. Add in some retirements, plus jazz repatriation …but I can’t explain the full amount… seems like a lot to me as well.

[rudder]

Only what I’ve been told.. but Apparently they were short even before covid. And another 8-900 is for the new duty rules. Add in some retirements, plus jazz repatriation …but I can’t explain the full amount… seems like a lot to me as well.

The training pipeline cannot accommodate the numbers referenced above on an annual basis. How many type courses can the system handle? 600 PIT type courses plus another 800-1000 type courses from current pilots?

AC may well get to 6000 but it will likely be at a pace of 600/yr.