The Air Canada OTS thread

[tata324]

Does anyone know if calls are going out for march already ?

[Inverted2]

I got a PFO along the lines of never re-apply again and then they called me a year later for another interview. Strange hiring practices there. I respectfully declined the interview but I would say keep trying. I know a guy who got turned down 3x and then he got hired.

[northtosouth]

Still nothing yet for March I'm guessing........

[tata324]

Still nothing yet for March I'm guessing........

I am also on the lookout. Heard from a friend that calls are heading out for March 22 already but he said t was a Jazz person. spoke to another OTS waiting for a response and he also hasn't heard back yet. Both of us have gotten background check requests, I interviewed in late November he did in December. We are both hoping it is the same no news is good news.

[JeppsOnFire]

Not to poop the party or anything but this pilot hiring is a little too frothy and it makes my spidey sense tingle.
Entirely anecdotal, of course, but I know more than a few solidly middle class families that have become fairly recently either barely solvent or living on credit. If this is widespread (maybe I just hang out with broke people), that will certainly be felt in our industry.

When everyone is scared, it's time to be greedy. When everyone is greedy, it's time to be scared. Or something like that.

[flying4dollars]

Not to poop the party or anything but this pilot hiring is a little too frothy and it makes my spidey sense tingle.
Entirely anecdotal, of course, but I know more than a few solidly middle class families that are either barely solvent or living on credit. If this is widespread (maybe I just hang out with broke people), that will certainly be felt in our industry.

When everyone is scared, it's time to be greedy. When everyone is greedy, it's time to be scared. Or something like that.

?

I'm not entirely sure what you're implying here. Most of the hiring is because of the new duty rules. The rest is either retirements or projected growth. Literally every airline in Canada is hiring and short right now.

[JeppsOnFire]

Not to poop the party or anything but this pilot hiring is a little too frothy and it makes my spidey sense tingle.
Entirely anecdotal, of course, but I know more than a few solidly middle class families that are either barely solvent or living on credit. If this is widespread (maybe I just hang out with broke people), that will certainly be felt in our industry.

When everyone is scared, it's time to be greedy. When everyone is greedy, it's time to be scared. Or something like that.

?

I'm not entirely sure what you're implying here. Most of the hiring is because of the new duty rules. The rest is either retirements or projected growth. Literally every airline in Canada is hiring and short right now.

What I'm saying is the times don't get better than this.

People are good at projecting a current situation indefinitely into the future. When times are bad, they think times will be bad forever. When times are good, they think times will be good forever.

Anyways, hopefully it lasts.

[rudder]

What I'm saying is the times don't get better than this.

People are good at projecting a current situation indefinitely into the future. When times are bad, they think times will be bad forever. When times are good, they think times will be good forever.

Anyways, hopefully it lasts.

If you have 1000 behind you then you are (usually) golden. In a downturn you will still have a job.

If you have just 100 behind you - then that is a different story.

[averageatbest]

What I'm saying is the times don't get better than this.

People are good at projecting a current situation indefinitely into the future. When times are bad, they think times will be bad forever. When times are good, they think times will be good forever.

Anyways, hopefully it lasts.

I don't know what you're smoking... times are not good. We are barely back to where we were pre-pandemic and we are getting screwed left, right, and center.

[DanWEC]

People said the same thing 3 years ago, then suddenly they were the worst they ever were.

The good times won't last, but neither will the bad. 2 years from now we might be in WW3, or we might not.

20 years ago Air Canada was bankrupt.

Make sense?

[Newbieyyz]

Background check roughly 10 business days after interview/medical.

Call back 2 months after the interview.

Does anyone know if you dont get a background check in 3 weeks is a bad thing?

[a2btrail]

All hiring finished by June 2023?

Hiring will carry on throughout the summer. Potentially a slight tapper in numbers but from what I've been made aware of hiring will continue through summer 2023.

verb: taper
diminish or reduce in thickness toward one end
tapper
one who taps something or produces a tapping sound
Just saying;)

LOL oops my bad!

[somealbertan]

Have any GS calls been made recently? Any idea what class they’ll be hiring for?

[UndisputedTruth]

So after doing an interview a not too short time ago just received a response regarding the psychological assessment. Request do a follow with their Dr. Please tell me someone else has gotten this somewhere out there? What’s the deal with this interview? Didn’t think I was but now I’m not so sure!

[Bugsie]

When did you interview?

[Freshredmeat]

So after doing an interview a not too short time ago just received a response regarding the psychological assessment. Request do a follow with their Dr. Please tell me someone else has gotten this somewhere out there? What’s the deal with this interview? Didn’t think I was but now I’m not so sure!

They probably can't believe pilots would work for so little and want to make you're sane.

It's a valid point

[newcomer]

So after doing an interview a not too short time ago just received a response regarding the psychological assessment. Request do a follow with their Dr. Please tell me someone else has gotten this somewhere out there? What’s the deal with this interview? Didn’t think I was but now I’m not so sure!

They probably can't believe pilots would work for so little and want to make you're sane.

It's a valid point

[newcomer]

So after doing an interview a not too short time ago just received a response regarding the psychological assessment. Request do a follow with their Dr. Please tell me someone else has gotten this somewhere out there? What’s the deal with this interview? Didn’t think I was but now I’m not so sure!

Don't worry. I had it too a few months ago. They thought I lied during the test. The Dr realized I was a good guy and I passed. But in the end I declined their offer as I found a much better job.

[FL030]

They probably can't believe pilots would work for so little and want to make you're sane.

It's a valid point

Definitely a Catch 22

I answered that I didn't love my mother and wondered if it would be disqualifying. It sounds like honesty is the best policy though.

[Inverted2]

So after doing an interview a not too short time ago just received a response regarding the psychological assessment. Request do a follow with their Dr. Please tell me someone else has gotten this somewhere out there? What’s the deal with this interview? Didn’t think I was but now I’m not so sure!

Did they ask you about the widebody starting pay?

[Captain101]

Would it make sense for a Porter E2 captain to leave for AC now considering the new E2 captain pay scales at Porter? It would be almost a $100k pay cut the first year but is it true that the upgrade times on the narrow body at AC are now roughly 2 years? Also looking at the long term benefits since AC has a pension does anyone know how the pension at AC actually works? Also trying to consider the life time earnings since I have 30 years till I hit 65. My estimate is that life time earnings will be more at AC since there is an opportunity to move to the widebody.

[lee123]

Would it make sense for a Porter E2 captain to leave for AC now considering the new E2 captain pay scales at Porter? It would be almost a $100k pay cut the first year but is it true that the upgrade times on the narrow body at AC are now roughly 2 years? Also looking at the long term benefits since AC has a pension does anyone know how the pension at AC actually works? Also trying to consider the life time earnings since I have 30 years till I hit 65. My estimate is that life time earnings will be more at AC since there is an opportunity to move to the widebody.

Yes, go.

[Ash Ketchum]

Would it make sense for a Porter E2 captain to leave for AC now considering the new E2 captain pay scales at Porter? It would be almost a $100k pay cut the first year but is it true that the upgrade times on the narrow body at AC are now roughly 2 years? Also looking at the long term benefits since AC has a pension does anyone know how the pension at AC actually works? Also trying to consider the life time earnings since I have 30 years till I hit 65. My estimate is that life time earnings will be more at AC since there is an opportunity to move to the widebody.

Want to trade? I was thinking of making the move to Porter with the new pay scales posted. AC is good in the long term but it depends on your situation in the short term and if your family and dependants can survive the massive pay cut until the upgrade comes.

[Captain101]

As for pension I was reading in the CBA that for example if one is to retire in 2024 the MPU is $4996. If one did 30 years of service would their annual pension be $4996 x 30 = $149,880. Not sure if my understanding of it is correct but just trying to come up to a ball park figure of what my pension could be if I retire after 30 years at AC.

Thanks for any info.

[Crewbunk]

As for pension I was reading in the CBA that for example if one is to retire in 2024 the MPU is $4996. If one did 30 years of service would their annual pension be $4996 x 30 = $149,880. Not sure if my understanding of it is correct but just trying to come up to a ball park figure of what my pension could be if I retire after 30 years at AC.

There is an additional restriction …

It’s the MPU x number of years of service OR 2% x number of years x your best five years. Whichever is lower.

For example, with 30 years in, if your average yearly salary during your best five years was $200,000, then your pension would be $120,000. If it was $300,000, then your pension would be $149,880, capped by the MPUs.