I have to agree with Sulako.
If you have a complaint forward me the topic and I will take a look at it. I have received no complaint.
In the complaint give me the following info:
-forum name
-subject line
-date and time the topic was started
-date and time of the reply
-username of the user you feel is causing the conflict
-a brief reason why you feel this post is inappropriate
If a topic does include a personal attack, hate related material, or pornography the topic will be removed ASAP. If the topic includes some other kind of material that you feel is inappropriate we will review it and consider taking action on the topic, reply, or user. All complaints I receive I reveiw.
I have no plan to change our current policy since it seems to be working well.
Hey Mod's
Moderators: sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, lilfssister, North Shore, I WAS Birddog
I wish I could scan the cr@p we get at work (*&&#$Mail) It would be fantastic to post it here . Of course you wouldn't believe it, so what's the point.Again, what he posts is most often cut and paste from some article that he has come upon
What happen at YQU? Could not pay the bills anymore? WJ takes it's own bag-handlers with them on every flight there. They stay the night and come back on the next day. The flight load must be terrific, hey?
Sorry, I stopped reading after 5 replies.
The role of Mod, is 2 things IMO(and explained pretty much by Avi(joe)).
A. To make sure that no one bad mouths The Manual guy.
and
B. To make sure no one is making racist, sexists, "we'll CLOSE this forum down" for those kind of remarks(lynchers screaming).
Blastor is just your typical loud and annoying drunk at your local seedy bar. Well if you don't like that kind of environment, skip it.
But even once in a while you want to leave the comfort of your home and explore the world and sometimes it's fun to play with the drunk because they can amuse you if you don't let them get to you.
The role of Mod, is 2 things IMO(and explained pretty much by Avi(joe)).
A. To make sure that no one bad mouths The Manual guy.
and
B. To make sure no one is making racist, sexists, "we'll CLOSE this forum down" for those kind of remarks(lynchers screaming).
Blastor is just your typical loud and annoying drunk at your local seedy bar. Well if you don't like that kind of environment, skip it.
But even once in a while you want to leave the comfort of your home and explore the world and sometimes it's fun to play with the drunk because they can amuse you if you don't let them get to you.
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just curious
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I reviewed Blastors posts from the beginning. Aside from the zillion cut and paste articles, his only original thoughts were that WJ had sequed away from it's original model, and charged him more to fly someplace. Clearly he has issues with the compensation scheme.Word of advice im not coming back to this forum and alot of others aswell if you dont do something about those idiots who cant act respectful!
Clearly he does not work for WJ.
Until he comes up with a different original thought with a personal attack, I'm not bothered by his cut and paste jobs, since they reflect thoughts on public offer, shaded by his anti-Teal highlights. I don't plan to edit his posts on the basis of my personal belief that they are childish and do not attempt to re-dress the evils he perceives. Hell, if I did that with every moronic post, the forum wouldn't tie up more than 64K of bandwidth.
Thirty years from now, maybe he will have been correct. Maybe not. Everyone needs some sort of forum to avoid going postal. Even Blastor.
If you want your own private forum back, email admin. He'd be happy to do so. Meanwhile, toughen up.
B'Bye.
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Harry Bagina
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I guess the difference I see is whether the level of moderation is more akin to a large philosophical question of societal free speech, or whether it is more about maintaining a certain quality and level of discussion which does more to attract viewers and contributors, or drive them away. Does the site wish to maintain (or allow to be degraded) to the lowest common denominator, or to make a small raising of the bar, in order to appeal to a greater range of the type of people the site wishes to retain?Sulako wrote: Here's the thing I am struggling with. Once you start deciding what content is acceptable, it becomes a slippery slope. I could argue that hazatude's posts are entirely pointless, or that Cat Driver's posts only serve to hurt the feelings of the good people at TC, or that mine are essentially masturbatory (I write for myself but if others want to watch, that's fine). How about the people who only post 1 or 2 lines? Or the people who just want to spread the latest rumor/filth/lies they have heard at the hangar?
I am entirely uncomfortable with the idea that I (as a mod) would decide what posts are worthy of being put up on the AvCanada forum, and so should you be. I mean really - who the hell am I? Just some random guy whose agenda may be entirely different from your own. If I had my way, the only posts on here would be to do with video games, computer hacking and pornography. And maybe occasional "The craziest thing I ever did in an airplane" posts. Maybe
I agree that it can be a slippery slope, and I wouldn't suggest a complicated and large shift to an individual determining what is acceptable and what isn't. But I can look at discussion boards and quickly get a feel for the quality of the board, and what the philosophy of the moderators are. Some are too involved---anyone with dissenting opinions is accused of being a troll, threatened, and banned. Others (like here) allow obvious attempts to do nothing more than throw mud, and make outlandish accusations only to try to trash a group. There is no question in my mind that the general level of this board is affected by this type of behaviour.
The level of moderation I would advocate represents the highest quality board that I visit. They will permit alot, with the restrictions that you mentioned (hate, profanity, pornography). But they go one small step further and try to control people who are intentionally not trying to add anything of substance, but make outlandish statements that are only there to cause mayhem. The type of poster that merely throws a grenade in, to try to incite a riot, because that is there only goal---not to have a legit discussion. Again, based on several mods that have posted, we all seem to agree that Blastor is full of crap, obviously has a personal axe to grind, and spends most of his posting time on here to attempt to make WestJet look bad. He is not looking to discuss, only to inflame. That is blatanly obvious. That is where I believe the line should be drawn.
If a person goes into the AC board (or anywhere on the site for that matter) and does nothing but try to trash and make outlandish accusations of the red airline, then they should be treated the same.
I'll wrap it up here, but as I said before, it comes down to what level the site wants to maintain. This isn't an issue of constitutional rights of free speech, to me it's more about a group of people who want to exchange thoughts and ideas in an online club. If one guy spends his time in the club focused only on degrading the conversation and not wanting legitimate discussion, then I would ask him to leave the club, lest the whole club falls apart as the level of conversation declines to where many of the others don't want to bother.
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metal overcast
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Ya know what would be nice??????????
If we had a board where there was no emotion at all and it was fellow pilots informing and helping fellow pilots.
I would have to say 90+% of this and other boards are all emotional ie, someone was slighted by a company or someone else and the bashing beging, it has a trickle effect.
Really to bad.
If we had a board where there was no emotion at all and it was fellow pilots informing and helping fellow pilots.
I would have to say 90+% of this and other boards are all emotional ie, someone was slighted by a company or someone else and the bashing beging, it has a trickle effect.
Really to bad.
You have my vote!!!B612 wrote:This thread is sad. Don't like Blastor? Don't read or respond. The Mod's are doing exactly what they should. Perhaps the real issue is some can't deal with WJ's fall from grace these days. Don't yell at Rebel, yell at whoever told you it was OK to get stocks and profit shares instead of a good contract. Or call your Mom and get a hug. The moderators do a good job, as is. Don't drag them through the mud.
It is slightly better than the Airliners.net forums. Watch those forums, they regularly explode into Airbus vs Boeing fan supporters.metal overcast wrote:Ya know what would be nice??????????
If we had a board where there was no emotion at all and it was fellow pilots informing and helping fellow pilots.
I would have to say 90+% of this and other boards are all emotional ie, someone was slighted by a company or someone else and the bashing beging, it has a trickle effect.
Really to bad.
