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Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:17 am
by EPR
In Canada!

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:10 am
by Bede
Believable. There's lots of decent 703 operators out there, but you don't hear about them because they're decent places to work and there's little turnover.

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:22 pm
by flying4dollars
EPR wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:17 amIn Canada!
Care to share where for those who might be interested in joining them?

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:02 pm
by ‘Bob’
flying4dollars wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:22 pm
EPR wrote:In Canada!
Care to share where for those who might be interested in joining them?
Probably nowhere.

Or if it is:

Salary: $40k base plus 0.15c per mile plus $10k retention bonus to keep people in this shit hole. Crew housing provided. 14/7 or CARs maximums.

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:58 pm
by EPR
F/O Salary 77K, 40 hour work week, overtime at x1.5 and x2.0 depending on situation, union job, shift differentials, weekend premiums, STATS, no mileage, not including per diems ($1500 per/yr avg), good pension, home every night, fly 275 hrs per year. Great equipment and location (South of 60) in a descent city with annual flight sim training in the states. Free dry cleaning of uniforms..lol.. What else am I missing...oh yah, a/c are always hangared, #Didn'tChaseMetal #ChasedLifestyle #UnicornJob

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:11 pm
by Dronepiper
If it’s a union job why are being so secretive???? Union agreements are literally public knowledge. They are all posted on negotech

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:01 pm
by flying4dollars
EPR wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:58 pm F/O Salary 77K, 40 hour work week, overtime at x1.5 and x2.0 depending on situation, union job, shift differentials, weekend premiums, STATS, no mileage, not including per diems ($1500 per/yr avg), good pension, home every night, fly 275 hrs per year. Great equipment and location (South of 60) in a descent city with annual flight sim training in the states. Free dry cleaning of uniforms..lol.. What else am I missing...oh yah, a/c are always hangared, #Didn'tChaseMetal #ChasedLifestyle #UnicornJob
Ok so $77k. Per diems are not salary and OT is not something for everyone. So I ask again, what company? What is the big secret?

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:49 am
by ‘Bob’
EPR wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:58 pm F/O Salary 77K, 40 hour work week, overtime at x1.5 and x2.0 depending on situation, union job, shift differentials, weekend premiums, STATS, no mileage, not including per diems ($1500 per/yr avg), good pension, home every night, fly 275 hrs per year. Great equipment and location (South of 60) in a descent city with annual flight sim training in the states. Free dry cleaning of uniforms..lol.. What else am I missing...oh yah, a/c are always hangared, #Didn'tChaseMetal #ChasedLifestyle #UnicornJob
It all makes sense now.

5 years from now when you want to have a life you’re only going to have 1300-1400 more SIC hours in your logbook to move on with.

That’s why they are paying so much.

Now… if they offered you an upgrade at that time with a commensurate pay rate like $130-$140k a year + OT and all of the extras, then yeah, you probably found a dream job and good for you.

But captains usually camp out and die in those spots.

Look at Kal Tire out of Vernon. They used to be the same way. They had to pay a premium for FOs but they had nowhere to go even though location and aircraft and lifestyle was top notch. Nobody can afford a house there anymore on an FO salary no matter how good.

Used to be you had to know somebody to go there. Now they are offering DEC on job boards and becoming a co-captain operation.

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:21 am
by EPR
Bob, I agree with most of your analysis except the SIC hours part as 2500 is the min. to start with.

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:45 pm
by Hysteria
EPR, interested to know which airline this is?

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:28 pm
by EPR
Hysteria wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:45 pm EPR, interested to know which airline this is?
PM'd you.

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:32 pm
by rooster
EPR wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:28 pm
Hysteria wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:45 pm EPR, interested to know which airline this is?
PM'd you.
I am interested as well. Could you PM me too?

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:06 pm
by North Shore
What's with all of the cloak-and-dagger BS? Post the company publicly f'r pete's sake!

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:13 am
by North Shore
EPR wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:29 pm
North Shore wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:06 pm What's with all of the cloak-and-dagger BS? Post the company publicly f'r pete's sake!
Because you're a Li@$#% piece of &%*$, and as a MODERATOR that has took it upon himself to ban me in the past, go forth and multiply! :smt097
Man, you don't hold back do you? :lol:
Nor, apparently, do you learn from past experience - such as being given a vacation for picking a fight. :roll:

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:19 am
by rooster
North Shore wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:06 pm What's with all of the cloak-and-dagger BS? Post the company publicly f'r pete's sake!
Cuz the job likely doesn't exist or he's embellishing significantly. Otherwise what would be the point of secrecy? These are things that should be shared with fellow pilots, not hidden :roll:

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:14 am
by Janitroll
$42845.00/yr - $5600 tax - $36000 / year rent ?
Povertypack wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:38 pm
bigred63 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:00 am Does anyone out there have any up to date information on FO pay at CMA?
As of December 2019
Dash level 3 FO is $42845.00/yr and 24month $20500.00 training bond

Don’t know what level one would be but definitely lower which is pretty awful.

As far as the 1900 Captain level 1 is $57500/yr and a 12 month $10000.00 training bond.
Level 5 1900 FO is $40800/yr

I don’t know what their “Competitive Compensation” is being compared to.
Honestly if you want to make more money and have a good schedule you’re better off as a garbage man
$2800/ month rent + $200/ month utilities
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-apartments-cond ... 1698760917

$36000 / year rent

As of December 2019
Dash level 3 FO is $42845.00/yr and 24month $20500.00 training bond

$42845.00/yr - $5600 tax - $36000 / year rent ?

Does CMA pay for the car? cell?