Blue Water Aviation plane down North of Winnipeg

[Mick G]

Do we have an official body count yet? Is it for sure 3? Have they all been recovered?

[FishermanIvan]

Do we have an official body count yet? Is it for sure 3? Have they all been recovered?

One passenger has been recovered, the pilot and other passenger are still missing.

[surferjoe]

Contrary to the news article no trees were hit on approach. It was a inflight breakup.

Where did you get this intel from?

[MudFarmer]

A reliable witness and RCMP have retracted their original statement.

[C-GGGQ]

Told the same by RCMP on site. "Not sure why they printed that they hit a tree. We said It was possible. But the wing came a couple hundred feet up."

[fish4life]

Does anyone know if the aircraft in question had one of the upgross kits? I don’t think it would have been overweight on this flight but I’m more curious about the effect of years of an upgross kit applied to a plane and it’s effects.

[FishermanIvan]

Does anyone know if the aircraft in question had one of the upgross kits? I don’t think it would have been overweight on this flight but I’m more curious about the effect of years of an upgross kit applied to a plane and it’s effects.

It did, but it was the 8367 pound one, and not the other (9000 pound?) upgross kit that I’m pretty sure exists.

[ragbagflyer]

Does anyone know if the aircraft in question had one of the upgross kits? I don’t think it would have been overweight on this flight but I’m more curious about the effect of years of an upgross kit applied to a plane and it’s effects.

I'd be more concerned about the Otters flying around at 9000 pounds+ without the upgross than the ones with the STC that are getting the correct maintenance.

[fish4life]

Does anyone know if the aircraft in question had one of the upgross kits? I don’t think it would have been overweight on this flight but I’m more curious about the effect of years of an upgross kit applied to a plane and it’s effects.

I'd be more concerned about the Otters flying around at 9000 pounds+ without the upgross than the ones with the STC that are getting the correct maintenance.

Agreed and it appears this one wasn’t a 9000lb plane anyway

[Vertigo8]

How many of the otters are operating at 8000 lbs. plus without the stc? Over the years I’ve seen many with the back of the floats under water?

[Mick G]

How many of the otters are operating at 8000 lbs. plus without the stc? Over the years I’ve seen many with the back of the floats under water?

You wouldn't be the first with that observation.

[phillyfan]

The backs of the floats being under water means almost nothing. Also there are a number of float sizes and fuel tank locations. It's easy to sink the backs of a straight 7170 Otter without a Walter header tank and be perfectly legal.

[fish4life]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.5350426

[C-GGGQ]

Both pilot and second passenger now recovered and brought to Winnipeg.

[fish4life]

I really hope the TSB can find out what caused the structural failure with some haste. It would be horrible if this were to happen to another otter before the report comes out 3 years from now.

[pelmet]

I really hope the TSB can find out what caused the structural failure with some haste. It would be horrible if this were to happen to another otter before the report comes out 3 years from now.

AD can be issued before the final report. It does seem like the TSB has started issuing some reports more quickly on the last year or so for smaller accidents.

Maybe we are having an effect.

[DCL415]

Here is the obituary for Jonathan, the pilot.
There is a fund for Keira and Liam (his daughter and son) education.
https://www.soberingfuneralchapel.com/j ... g-friesen/

Rest in peace

[FishermanIvan]

I’m pretty gutted I can’t make it to Bissett tomorrow, both Jonathan and Tanya made being away from home very easy for both my summers there. Made me feel right at home from day one. Nothing but the utmost generosity from both of them.

I do hope they find out what happened so it doesn’t ever happen to anyone else.

Rest In Peace. I’ll miss knowing you.

[seasonaldriver]

Evidently all Otters in Canada have been grounded pending the results of the accident investigation.
That's gonna hurt the west coast operators hard.
I hope they find the cause of the wing failure very soon. Before anything else catastrophic happens.

[C.W.E.]

Where did you get that info?

That would really screw Harbour Air.

[seasonaldriver]

Admittedly I got it third hand but from a fairly reliable non gov. source.
A reasonable expectation of gov. response given circumstances.
I wonder if the USA operators will be told to follow suit?

[Maynard]

I don’t think they’re grounded, but there’s a Safety Bulliten to inspect the struts/fittings/bolts, etc before its next flight.

[C-GGGQ]

So a grounding without it being an "official" grounding of the fleet (Complete with press conferences) instead, Inspect before you fly next.

[Moosemeat]

I've been quite concerned about this accident, so much so, I terminated my Otter position for next summer. Other issues, ie: maintenance, contributed to the decision.

[round pounder]

So. Someone has said our the fleet of otters, I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend are grounded Please park the BS at the door. Before the arm chair bandits start condemning the plane and the pilot. I highly suggest you wait for a TSB report.