Indeed. You should include the alt on check-in, for validation purposes, and to make sure there wasn't a screw-up when the alt was passed to that sector by the previous controller. In this case you need to make the check-in transmission anyway, so the extra 1 second isn't really a waste. Otherwise I wouldn't get my gitch in a knot over it. Highly unlikely someone's going to hassle you for not making the call.Pygmie wrote:And it's a good thing too, as if you didn't controllers are required to ask for it, otherwise the altitude readout on the radar is rather useless.pelmet wrote:Actually, . . . I do give my altitude when checking in on a new frequecy. Everyone seems to do that, even when it is busy.
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When you take off for higher altitudes, you are sometimes cleared to the ceiling of the departure controller, not your final requested altitude.
e.g. a SID may limit you to 7000' off Calgary or Edmonton. The terminal controller will then clear you to some altitude in their sector (depending on traffic), then you get handed to an enroute controller where you finally get your flight-planned altitude.
Of course if there are no traffic conflicts, you might get cleared to your cruising altitude right away.
The altitude you get cleared to initially either by SID of the terminal controller is your "INITIALLY cleared altitude".
When leaving Grande Prairie, for example, you will frequently get: "Cleared to 11 thousand, expect higher enroute". If you have a comms failure there are procedures that cover this so you don't run out of gas at too-low an altitude.
e.g. a SID may limit you to 7000' off Calgary or Edmonton. The terminal controller will then clear you to some altitude in their sector (depending on traffic), then you get handed to an enroute controller where you finally get your flight-planned altitude.
Of course if there are no traffic conflicts, you might get cleared to your cruising altitude right away.
The altitude you get cleared to initially either by SID of the terminal controller is your "INITIALLY cleared altitude".
When leaving Grande Prairie, for example, you will frequently get: "Cleared to 11 thousand, expect higher enroute". If you have a comms failure there are procedures that cover this so you don't run out of gas at too-low an altitude.
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RAC 8.4 off the top of my head.cpl_atc wrote:I'd never noticed that in the AIM before. I don't know why it would refer to "initially cleared" either. The call is no more or less valuable to a departure controller as it would be for en route, so I have no idea why they would make that distinction.swordfish wrote:The altitude you get cleared to initially either by SID of the terminal controller is your "INITIALLY cleared altitude".
