Ontario Stay Home Order coming in.

[photofly]

Ok I'm in no way a conspiracy theorist but

Uh-huh.

[Inverted2]

I’m in no way a conspiracy theorist either, but a lot of my conspiracies keep coming true....... So maybe I am. Regardless things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

[Launchpad1]

Uh-huh.

Yep because that's not a theory... it's a fact

[Rockie]

Do you guys fly airplanes, or have any other kind of job requiring rational thought and reason?

[ReserveTank]

I’m in no way a conspiracy theorist either, but a lot of my conspiracies keep coming true....... So maybe I am. Regardless things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

The phrase "conspiracy theory" gets a bad rap because the media does its best to gaslight anyone who questions the narrative. Of course, that also means that some of your peers will do the same to you. They need to conform to feel socially accepted, even if the narrative is harmful or makes no sense. When you are asked to not believe what is happening in front of your own eyes and question it, you aren't a conspiracy theorist, but you are dangerous to the integrity of the narrative.

On your second point-absolutely. Most Westerners walk around like a fawn without its mother, naive to the point of being idiotic. They keep thinking if they follow the guidance of their "experts" they will return to normal. In fact, they are simply allowing a normalization of declining conditions. They keep saying that if you lockdown just 4 weeks, if you wear a mask just 2 weeks, if you take a vaccine--things can return to normal. Then they blame the public (who is overwhelmingly compliant) when they decide to extend quarantine measures. They have been more or less repeating this pattern for over 9 months and the public can't figure it out.

The only way to get back to work is to do what they did in Wuhan---stop friggin' testing and get on with life.

[photofly]

We just know how stupid it is to imagine even three people can conspire to invent a pandemic for an ulterior motive and keep it secret, let alone the entirety of the worlds politicians, scientists and medics. It’s profound idiocy of the deepest sort to imagine the body politic has that kind of competency.

Politicians - everywhere - are doing the best job they can, without the benefit of hindsight or the sort of omniscience that having nothing better to do than post things on websites appears to endow people with.

[BE20 Driver]

So you mean to tell me that the political superiors and the 1% all across the world, coordinated this amongst themselves to get your measly savings into their pockets? They coordinated, clouded and collectively decided to shut down the entire global economy just to get my retirement fund?

The world's population is 7.8 billion so by definition the 1% that rule the world are made up of 7.8 million people. When they all coordinated this, not a single person leaked a thing about this to anyone outside of their group? Every 1%-er managed to agree to do such a stunt on basically the same day, not only in Canada but Dubai, India, Kuwait, Qatar, Slovenia,... Somehow they managed to get all of the global medical community onboard and the media too. I'm only guessing at how many doctors and medical professionals in the world but let's say that that adds another 10 million people. Now you've got the entire population of Netherlands in on this little secret that no one else in the world knows about.

Apparently there were 400,000 people involved in the moon landings. We all know that no one ever went to the moon and the whole thing was shot on a sound stage in Burbank right? How do we know that? A couple of the 400,000 people talked. That's how. What makes you think that 7.8 million old, white, rich men could pull off a stunt like COVID?

If 33 of us pilots were in a room and we each brought both of our parents with us that would be about 100 people. Now what if we told you that 2 people wouldn't make it out of that room alive and we all chose your parents. It's only 2%.

[piperdriver]

Wtf get your head out of the sand. Mortality rates from Covid is nowhere near 2 percent. BE020 you are a few decimal places off. 0.02 percent would be more accurate.

[rookiepilot]

We just know how stupid it is to imagine even three people can conspire to invent a pandemic for an ulterior motive and keep it secret, let alone the entirety of the worlds politicians, scientists and medics. It’s profound idiocy of the deepest sort to imagine the body politic has that kind of competency.

Politicians - everywhere - are doing the best job they can, without the benefit of hindsight or the sort of omniscience that having nothing better to do than post things on websites appears to endow people with.

This. One of my very good friends works in ICU. It's not fake.

In Ontario, I choose to give Ford a (large ) break. Look in the man's eyes. He is stressed to the max. Wouldn't want his job.

I don't buy that he's making this up, but people can believe what they wish.

[shimmydampner]

Politicians - everywhere - are doing the best job they can

It's always easier to bring your A game when you're feeling refreshed from a vacation abroad.

[tsgarp]

Thanks Trudeau.

Trudeau is only acting on the orders of (and incentives supplied by) his superiors.

And that still doesn’t explain why they would exploit this to cripple our economy and destroy the middle class. Think real hard and tell me why they would want to do that.

Because we are in the middle of an industrial revolution. Ownership of all means (production, finance, and otherwise) will be in the hands of far fewer oligarchs. People have been lamenting for years about the 1%-They've seen nothing. Try 0.01%. You can already see it in the media-Companies like Amazon can decide whether or not you speak and eat. Someone like Bezos can also decide what information you receive because he owns a major publication.

Small business owners have no place in the economy of the near future. They provide too much competition for online warehouses of Chinese junk.

To the point-The reason to use a common cold as the catalyst for economic destruction is simple-The public has a hard time pointing at any particular person as culpable. Everything is "because COVID." The tentacles of COVID are numerous and are easy to defend on the weakest of pretexts. It's also created a definite rift within the public, clearly polarizing us. That's a bonus for an oligarch-infighting of the peasantry.

Divided We Fall, as it were.

Thanks you. You put it far better than I could have.

[photofly]

Small business owners have no place in the economy of the near future. They provide too much competition for online warehouses of Chinese junk.

Unless you happen to be small business whose business is importing Chinese junk and flogging it on Amazon.

[photofly]

Back on topic, “receiving or providing training” is a an acceptable reason to leave your home in Ontario under the just-published regulations, the kind of training or location not being specified.

So is attending an appointment at a business that is permitted to be open.

[Rockie]

Thanks Trudeau.

Trudeau is only acting on the orders of (and incentives supplied by) his superiors.

And that still doesn’t explain why they would exploit this to cripple our economy and destroy the middle class. Think real hard and tell me why they would want to do that.

Because we are in the middle of an industrial revolution. Ownership of all means (production, finance, and otherwise) will be in the hands of far fewer oligarchs. People have been lamenting for years about the 1%-They've seen nothing. Try 0.01%. You can already see it in the media-Companies like Amazon can decide whether or not you speak and eat. Someone like Bezos can also decide what information you receive because he owns a major publication.

Small business owners have no place in the economy of the near future. They provide too much competition for online warehouses of Chinese junk.

To the point-The reason to use a common cold as the catalyst for economic destruction is simple-The public has a hard time pointing at any particular person as culpable. Everything is "because COVID." The tentacles of COVID are numerous and are easy to defend on the weakest of pretexts. It's also created a definite rift within the public, clearly polarizing us. That's a bonus for an oligarch-infighting of the peasantry.

Divided We Fall, as it were.

My mistake, I should have specified “rational” explanation. Got one of those?

[tsgarp]

Small business owners have no place in the economy of the near future. They provide too much competition for online warehouses of Chinese junk.

Unless you happen to be small business whose business is importing Chinese junk and flogging it on Amazon.

While I agree with the sentiment that you attributing to me, the actual quote is from someone else.

[ReserveTank]

My mistake, I should have specified “rational” explanation. Got one of those?

Yet there it all is, happening right in front of your nose.

So you mean to tell me that the political superiors and the 1% all across the world, coordinated this amongst themselves to get your measly savings into their pockets? They coordinated, clouded and collectively decided to shut down the entire global economy just to get my retirement fund?

You missed the point. It's not YOUR personal stuff/money that they want...It's the upheaval of the labour market. We're changing to an Amazon/Uber style economy and you're not invited. More people living in pods, 12 to an apartment just to have the chance to obtain a minimum subsistence salary.
No more pensions, benefits, or the dignity of doing your job with your own sense of ethics. No more "gonna buy a house" or "gettin' a new Subaru."

What makes you think that 7.8 million old, white, rich men could pull off a stunt like COVID?

Who said they were white?
Anyway, "1%" is a figure of speech--I didn't think that I would actually need to explain it.

It’s profound idiocy of the deepest sort to imagine the body politic has that kind of competency.

However, they are doing it. It's not competency, it's corruption. The execution has been fraught with incompetence in some localities, but the corruption is what drives it. The general direction is maintained towards dismantling the current labour system. The big money, i.e., "foundations," steers the local and regional leaders-keeps them in their lanes.

[Rockie]

What web sites do you read Reservetank (besides this one of course)? Honest question.

[ReserveTank]

What web sites do you read Reservetank (besides this one of course)? Honest question.

Somebody help me--Is there a website for Das Kapital?

News to know that "something" is happening. Hardbound and paperbacks for the worldview. I won't elaborate--even Superfudge could be banned tomorrow.

[Rockie]

I’m just curious if you uncovered this global plot all on your own or if you were led to it. Does it have anything to do with the letter Q?

[montado]

I was unsure of what the changes were with the stay at home order but I found the most complete summary below.

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[ReserveTank]

I’m just curious if you uncovered this global plot all on your own or if you were led to it. Does it have anything to do with the letter Q?

It's not rocket science. It's happening in the open. There's no great mystery to be uncovered. Read/learn/know history and economics. These happenings are a new badge on an old brand.

Q is retard bait. Looks like we got a nibble. There's two facets:

1) For anybody to the right of centre that "wants to believe."-Q steers these retards away from what they are plainly seeing.
2) The retards that gaslight the Q retards, not knowing Q's actual purpose.

[Rockie]

I’m just curious if you uncovered this global plot all on your own or if you were led to it. Does it have anything to do with the letter Q?

It's not rocket science. It's happening in the open. There's no great mystery to be uncovered. Read/learn/know history and economics. These happenings are a new badge on an old brand.

Q is retard bait. Looks like we got a nibble. There's two facets:

1) For anybody to the right of centre that "wants to believe."-Q steers these retards away from what they are plainly seeing.
2) The retards that gaslight the Q retards, not knowing Q's actual purpose.

Well it’s a relief to know you’re not some deranged conspiracy theorist responsible for the safety of hundreds of unsuspecting passengers. Keep up the good work defending truth, freedom and democracy.

[photofly]

However, they are doing it. It's not competency, it's corruption. The execution has been fraught with incompetence in some localities, but the corruption is what drives it. The general direction is maintained towards dismantling the current labour system. The big money, i.e., "foundations," steers the local and regional leaders-keeps them in their lanes.

So, every single politician, every single scientist, and every single doctor are all corrupt? And accepting, what, bribes?

You're even more whackadoodle than I imagined!

[shimmydampner]

I don't believe this to be a grand conspiracy in the sense that it has been orchestrated by some secret, powerful cabal, but I can understand the inclination to think that way. I do believe there is a huge amount of opportunism and profiteering happening, as there is during all down turns and disasters. And I do think it's accelerating the widening of the wealth gap. And I do think that some governments, including ours, are taking the opportunity to turn lemons into lemonade by using covid as an excuse to experiment with exactly how far they can push the populace with infringements on their rights and personal freedoms and sovereignty. Keep it up long enough and people just might forget how good they had it before. History is replete with examples of governments who desired a compliant populace. None of those examples turned out well. We would all do well to keep our guards up rather than simply scoff and offer snarky comments to those who do.

[photofly]

Conspiracy, n.: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

I do think that some governments, including ours, are taking the opportunity to turn lemons into lemonade by using covid as an excuse to experiment with exactly how far they can push the populace with infringements on their rights and personal freedoms and sovereignty.

Be clear: Governments are made of people - individuals. In this case, Rob Ford and his advisers, sitting around a table. If you think that more than one such person has agreed secretly amongst themselves (which is the very definition of conspired) to "experiment" for the purpose of furthering some nefarious purpose (such as the one you descibe) then you are, again, by the very meaning of the words, a conspiracy theorist.

You simply cannot say this isn't a grand conspiracy, and then describe it, as you do, as a grand conspiracy. You either believe in secret agendas and purposes, which makes you a conspiracy theorist, or you don't. Don't you get that?

People in government, are all doing their level best to govern. You may not agree with what they say, but once you ascribe to them - or to anyone - secret and evil motives, that's conspiracy talk, and it instantly loses you the mantle of respectability and being deserving of being taken seriously.