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Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:53 am
by flyingcanuck
bcflyer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:30 am
ayseven wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:36 am
It is extremely difficult for pilots to bargain: they only have their labour to withdraw if they don't get their way, and we know how easy it is to replace them right now. Once things get going, it might be harder. I wish people all the luck in the world.
This kind of thinking is why airline pilots in Canada are among the lowest paid anywhere. It’s not easy to replace a pilot.The training time alone to replace pilots is months in duration. If all pilots set the park brake and walked away the company would be out of business in very short order. We just don’t have the balls to do it.
%100. Sadly the government will just force us back to work
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:00 am
by ShamrockPilot
bcflyer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:30 am
ayseven wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:36 am
It is extremely difficult for pilots to bargain: they only have their labour to withdraw if they don't get their way, and we know how easy it is to replace them right now. Once things get going, it might be harder. I wish people all the luck in the world.
This kind of thinking is why airline pilots in Canada are among the lowest paid anywhere. It’s not easy to replace a pilot.The training time alone to replace pilots is months in duration. If all pilots set the park brake and walked away the company would be out of business in very short order. We just don’t have the balls to do it.
The US offering HB1 visas for pilots is the only thing that will shake up the Canadian aviation industry at this point.
I don't know many who would stay, and I don't know how airlines here would cope with the 'brain drain'. Just look at the salaries, schedules, bases, income tax etc. on the US job postings.
90 day fiancé is the best way to go for now - think of the residuals !
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:01 am
by bcflyer
flyingcanuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:53 am
bcflyer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:30 am
ayseven wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:36 am
It is extremely difficult for pilots to bargain: they only have their labour to withdraw if they don't get their way, and we know how easy it is to replace them right now. Once things get going, it might be harder. I wish people all the luck in the world.
This kind of thinking is why airline pilots in Canada are among the lowest paid anywhere. It’s not easy to replace a pilot.The training time alone to replace pilots is months in duration. If all pilots set the park brake and walked away the company would be out of business in very short order. We just don’t have the balls to do it.
%100. Sadly the government will just force us back to work
Again that’s always the reply. It’s never been tested. There was the threat of legislation but it never actually happened because once again the pilots didn’t have the backbone to push the issue. The results of that failure is still being felt today.
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:41 pm
by schnitzel2k3
https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/air-can ... -1.5458889
I guess that 10M came with a lot of guilt and shame. I wonder if these managers are going to up and disappear now...

Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:30 pm
by DanWEC
ShamrockPilot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:00 am
The US offering HB1 visas for pilots is the only thing that will shake up the Canadian aviation industry at this point.
I don't know many who would stay, and I don't know how airlines here would cope with the 'brain drain'. Just look at the salaries, schedules, bases, income tax etc. on the US job postings.
A quick search of LCA's applied for in the US would show that this isn't an impossibility at all....
https://www.myvisajobs.com/H1B-Visa/Sea ... +Engineers
Skywest had 116 LCA's for pilots in 2018 alone, and 78 of those were approved.
Mesa, Peidmont and Champlain are next in the rankings.
It's not a lot, but it's there, which proves it's possible.
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:30 am
by Zaibatsu
Bump
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:45 am
by notwhoyouthinkIam
Zaibatsu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:30 amBump
Bump for what?
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:54 am
by acpaleaks
Because he's a troll with nothing better to do. Kinda like you.
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:16 pm
by notwhoyouthinkIam
acpaleaks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:54 am
Because he's a troll with nothing better to do. Kinda like you.
This forum is filled with trolls and angry pilots looking to bitch and moan.
I happen to take part in both activities.

Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 pm
by acpaleaks
Scary that you are allowed control of an aircraft with the public on board.
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:36 pm
by notwhoyouthinkIam
acpaleaks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 pm
Scary that you are allowed control of an aircraft with the public on board.
I see that you definitely fall into the angry asshole category.
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:08 pm
by acpaleaks
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:36 pm
acpaleaks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 pm
Scary that you are allowed control of an aircraft with the public on board.
I see that you definitely fall into the angry asshole category.
No I just have a little more respect for my profession. Take a hint.
Re: Air Canada granted special stock awards and $10-million in bonuses while negotiating government bailout..
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:14 pm
by notwhoyouthinkIam
acpaleaks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:08 pm
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:36 pm
acpaleaks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 pm
Scary that you are allowed control of an aircraft with the public on board.
I see that you definitely fall into the angry asshole category.
No I just have a little more respect for my profession. Take a hint.
Who are you trying to convince... you or me?