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Re: How backed up is hiring???

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Good luck to all who are waiting or have applied however…
Anyone waiting in the pool should apply to every other regional airline, and Low cost airline, as jazz has the lowest regional pay (encore, pal, porter are all higher now). And it looks like the union is doing little to push for improved conditions..the only benefit of jazz is the ability to leave quickly to Air Canada.
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Re: How backed up is hiring???

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canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:10 pm Good luck to all who are waiting or have applied however…
Anyone waiting in the pool should apply to every other regional airline, and Low cost airline, as jazz has the lowest regional pay (encore, pal, porter are all higher now). And it looks like the union is doing little to push for improved conditions..the only benefit of jazz is the ability to leave quickly to Air Canada.
Correct, except as it stands now, you have better chances at being hired by AC if you don't come from Jazz. Guys and gals at Encore, Flair, Pascan and even some 703 left seats are being hired at AC, leaving Jazz guys in the dust.
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tango308 wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:23 am

Correct, except as it stands now, you have better chances at being hired by AC if you don't come from Jazz. Guys and gals at Encore, Flair, Pascan and even some 703 left seats are being hired at AC, leaving Jazz guys in the dust.
AC has been pillaging 704 Captains.
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tango308 wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:23 am
canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:10 pm Good luck to all who are waiting or have applied however…
Anyone waiting in the pool should apply to every other regional airline, and Low cost airline, as jazz has the lowest regional pay (encore, pal, porter are all higher now). And it looks like the union is doing little to push for improved conditions..the only benefit of jazz is the ability to leave quickly to Air Canada.
Correct, except as it stands now, you have better chances at being hired by AC if you don't come from Jazz. Guys and gals at Encore, Flair, Pascan and even some 703 left seats are being hired at AC, leaving Jazz guys in the dust.
Very true.
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maverick12 wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:32 am
kiaszceski wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:20 am
maverick12 wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:01 am

Do you know if they tell you once MMPI is passed? Or does the email stating a pass of the sim eval and the go ahead for ref checks constitute MMPI results received?
From what I understood, MMPI results aren’t a passed or failed mark. It gives a score on each area And then it has to be interpreted by a psychiatrist.
I guess this is the last part of the scoring matrix and it weighs a lot.
Ahh gotcha. Thanks

Any of you have an idea as to what experience levels are gonna be at the top of the pool right now?
Currently they have been going for easily upgradable people. Almost all in the recent ground schools have held an ATPL, or enough PIC to receive the ATPL shortly. Others in the classes seem to be around the 1000-1500 range of hours. But preference is certainly being given to ATPL/Higher PIC applicants as the squeezing point for Jazz is Captains...FO's are cheap.
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Re: How backed up is hiring???

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gyrotoppler wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:19 am
maverick12 wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:32 am
Any of you have an idea as to what experience levels are gonna be at the top of the pool right now?
Currently they have been going for easily upgradable people. Almost all in the recent ground schools have held an ATPL, or enough PIC to receive the ATPL shortly. Others in the classes seem to be around the 1000-1500 range of hours. But preference is certainly being given to ATPL/Higher PIC applicants as the squeezing point for Jazz is Captains...FO's are cheap.
They should post the PIT course attendees resumes internally just like they do at AC.

Would make for interesting reading.
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rudder wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:33 pm
gyrotoppler wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:19 am
maverick12 wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:32 am
Any of you have an idea as to what experience levels are gonna be at the top of the pool right now?
Currently they have been going for easily upgradable people. Almost all in the recent ground schools have held an ATPL, or enough PIC to receive the ATPL shortly. Others in the classes seem to be around the 1000-1500 range of hours. But preference is certainly being given to ATPL/Higher PIC applicants as the squeezing point for Jazz is Captains...FO's are cheap.
They should post the PIT course attendees resumes internally just like they do at AC.

Would make for interesting reading.
They don't do that at AC.
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negative_g wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:46 pm
rudder wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:33 pm
gyrotoppler wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:19 am

Currently they have been going for easily upgradable people. Almost all in the recent ground schools have held an ATPL, or enough PIC to receive the ATPL shortly. Others in the classes seem to be around the 1000-1500 range of hours. But preference is certainly being given to ATPL/Higher PIC applicants as the squeezing point for Jazz is Captains...FO's are cheap.
They should post the PIT course attendees resumes internally just like they do at AC.

Would make for interesting reading.
They don't do that at AC.
I did not mean it literally (actual individual resume).

I meant the summary that briefly outlines their flying history and flying hours.
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rudder wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:09 pm
negative_g wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:46 pm
rudder wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:33 pm

They should post the PIT course attendees resumes internally just like they do at AC.

Would make for interesting reading.
They don't do that at AC.
I did not mean it literally (actual individual resume).

I meant the summary that briefly outlines their flying history and flying hours.
Yeah but that's a bio written by the pilot. Some of them are like one sentence long. I didn't put much in mine, it's no ones business.
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Re: How backed up is hiring???

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Seems like we have enough pilots for now. The GS on oct 11 got canceled.

pitottubey wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:15 pm So I finished the whole application process over 2 months ago and still in the pool...
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Flyingbeluga wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:23 am Seems like we have enough pilots for now. The GS on oct 11 got canceled.

pitottubey wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:15 pm So I finished the whole application process over 2 months ago and still in the pool...
Thats to do with lack of training capacity, not a lack of pilots needed
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There’s 70 in the hiring pool that should be given a course by years end or early in the new year. They are still interviewing now but for job offers for March-April if successful.
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WF9F wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:35 pm There’s 70 in the hiring pool that should be given a course by years end or early in the new year. They are still interviewing now but for job offers for March-April if successful.
I thought Jazz wasn’t giving Gs on a first come first serve basis?
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kiaszceski wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:38 pm
WF9F wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:35 pm There’s 70 in the hiring pool that should be given a course by years end or early in the new year. They are still interviewing now but for job offers for March-April if successful.
I thought Jazz wasn’t giving Gs on a first come first serve basis?
Just a guess, that they are prioritizing people who can be and are interested in going left seat right away or very quickly. No ATPL? Back of the line, there's enough IATRA pilots at Jazz as it is. I know a lot of FOs with more than enough experience to be Captains, all waiting for flow to AC. There's little motivation to upgrade anymore and screw up your schedule if you're a Sr FO waiting for the call.
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WF9F wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:35 pm There’s 70 in the hiring pool that should be given a course by years end or early in the new year. They are still interviewing now but for job offers for March-April if successful.
Where did you get that 70 number if I may ask
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Re: How backed up is hiring???

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From a close contact at Jazz
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The quicker guys come the quicker jazz pilots looking to flow to ac can exit poverty 😂
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You mean enter poverty, right? 👀😂
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negative_g wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:40 pm You mean enter poverty, right? 👀😂
Jazz FO take home pay is just over $1000 (after tax and deductions) biweekly. So hopefully it’s better than that. 🤞
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WF9F wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:43 pm From a close contact at Jazz
How many GSs are supposed to be still planned for 2022?

If Jazz keeps their original schedule: Oct 31st, nov 21st, dec 12th and 20 pilots per GS, plus the people that are being put into the pool until then,
those candidates won't be offered a GS before 2023.
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maverick12 wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:39 pm
Flyingbeluga wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:23 am Seems like we have enough pilots for now. The GS on oct 11 got canceled.

pitottubey wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:15 pm So I finished the whole application process over 2 months ago and still in the pool...
Thats to do with lack of training capacity, not a lack of pilots needed
Not true at all chief pilot told us they are correctly staffed for now they don’t need more pilots. Guess he’s lying
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Heard from multiple sources ground schools are far from being filled. Probably not in the chief pilots favour to promote how undesirable it is to work at their company.
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canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:37 am Heard from multiple sources ground schools are far from being filled. Probably not in the chief pilots favour to promote how undesirable it is to work at their company. Especially with the recent AC hiring low blow.
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canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:37 am Heard from multiple sources ground schools are far from being filled. Probably not in the chief pilots favour to promote how undesirable it is to work at their company.
The GS still have 20 people every 3 weeks, and there is still people being rejected.
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canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:37 am Heard from multiple sources ground schools are far from being filled. Probably not in the chief pilots favour to promote how undesirable it is to work at their company.
Your sources are wrong then
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