Yet another discussion by experts in their field..

[khedrei]

embellish:
to enhance (a statement or narrative) with fictitious additions.

Sure, call me a liar but have no problem embellishing your story. It’s not lying when you do it.

For a guy who likes to complain about some people telling other people what to do, you seem to have no problems telling me what I should do.

Regs don’t make things right? So you’re cool if someone gives flight instruction without a valid instructor rating, right? Or you mean you get to decide what regs to follow because everyone else has mass formation psychosis but you see the truth. This is some delicious irony.

As for comparing genocide with a minor inconvenience of wearing a piece of cloth I’ll just let that one stand on its own.

So you did do what I said you did....

Got it.

Well we’ve pretty much worn this topic out. Stop by for a coffee. I might have a student to send your way.

I'm taking bets...

2-1 on Aviatard remembering that things did happen that way and he did treat someone that way and thats why he didn't bring it up again. Instead he had to pretend I was comparing masks to the holocaust to distract from the fact that he behaved so poorly.

[TG]

Because there is No, Zero, Nil, Niet, Nada comparison to do between wearing mask and the holocaust.


Following that train of thoughts means that every regulation is wrong and must be fought.
You must wear your mask therefore I must compare this reg with the holocaust because if you abide by it you would blindly abide with anything including rounding up Jewish to kill them.

Really!?

No, just no... Like comparing a 2 lego blocks construction with the Pyramids.

Over-generalizing after a bad experience could lead an individual to fear benign scenarios, a cognitive distortion in which an individual views a single event as an invariable rule

[khedrei]

Because there is No, Zero, Nil, Niet, Nada comparison to do between wearing mask and the holocaust.


Following that train of thoughts means that every regulation is wrong and must be fought.
You must wear your mask therefore I must compare this reg with the holocaust because if you abide by it you would blindly abide with anything including rounding up Jewish to kill them.

Really!?

No, just no... Like comparing a 2 lego blocks construction with the Pyramids.

Over-generalizing after a bad experience could lead an individual to fear benign scenarios, a cognitive distortion in which an individual views a single event as an invariable rule

Let me ask you this...

Do you think it is ok to lock up people in hotels for not taking the shot?

If so, under which circumstances is this ok? Only when they come back from vacation? Or anytime?

I'm seriously trying to figure out your line. I think I can safely assume you don't think its ok to deny them health care. But please correct me if I'm wrong. Because that's happening too.

[cdnavater]

Because there is No, Zero, Nil, Niet, Nada comparison to do between wearing mask and the holocaust.


Following that train of thoughts means that every regulation is wrong and must be fought.
You must wear your mask therefore I must compare this reg with the holocaust because if you abide by it you would blindly abide with anything including rounding up Jewish to kill them.

Really!?

No, just no... Like comparing a 2 lego blocks construction with the Pyramids.

Over-generalizing after a bad experience could lead an individual to fear benign scenarios, a cognitive distortion in which an individual views a single event as an invariable rule

Let me ask you this...

Do you think it is ok to lock up people in hotels for not taking the shot?

If so, under which circumstances is this ok? Only when they come back from vacation? Or anytime?

I'm seriously trying to figure out your line. I think I can safely assume you don't think its ok to deny them health care. But please correct me if I'm wrong. Because that's happening too.

Let me ask you this, do you think it’s ok to lock people up in jail for not following the law?
They made a public health decision to quarantine people for the public good, people can’t be trusted and I know first hand.
I know people who came back from a vacation and were mandated to self quarantine, guess what, they didn’t. They immediately got together with friends and potentially spread this virus, is that ok with you, spreading a potentially deadly virus to people?
You had a choice, vaccine or quarantine, your choice!

[khedrei]

What is it with people on your side of the argument never being able to answer direct questions?

[TG]

What is it with people on your side of the argument never being able to answer direct questions?

Have to try sideways approaches when direct ones doesn't work, or don't sink in I should say.

I'll give you a direct answer about this topic: "You are wrong"

[cdnavater]

What is it with people on your side of the argument never being able to answer direct questions?

I did answer your question, go back and read what I wrote, it directly answers all three of your questions.
People were aware they were going to be quarantined, therefore they had a choice in going on vacation or not which was the intent of that health order.
I guess I didn’t answer one, it’s ok to quarantine people under worldwide pandemic scenarios, as I said people can’t be trusted to do the right thing.
I’m 100% certain that if it were you and they said you you can quarantine at home, you would have been out and about spreading the virus, why because you think rules are stupid and this whole thing is bullshit, therefore why would you follow the rules.
People on your side of the argument were having giant Covid parties and wearing fake masks, etc…

[Inverted2]

I broke every covid rule I could during the scamdemic - fake masks, visiting whoever whenever during the “lockdowns,” gave a nice tip to my covid tester in Mexico for best results etc. Do I feel guilty? Hell no.

[CortoMaltese]

I know people who came back from a vacation and were mandated to self quarantine, guess what, they didn’t. They immediately got together with friends and potentially spread this virus, is that ok with you, spreading a potentially deadly virus to people?
You had a choice, vaccine or quarantine, your choice!

I know fully vaccinated people who came back from vacation and who did not have to quarantine, they gave me this virus...
Twice...
But it's ok to quarantine those who choose to not inject some chemical stuff into their body??

[cdnavater]

I know people who came back from a vacation and were mandated to self quarantine, guess what, they didn’t. They immediately got together with friends and potentially spread this virus, is that ok with you, spreading a potentially deadly virus to people?
You had a choice, vaccine or quarantine, your choice!

I know fully vaccinated people who came back from vacation and who did not have to quarantine, they gave me this virus...
Twice...
But it's ok to quarantine those who choose to not inject some chemical stuff into their body??

Yes, they did their part and the government rewarded them for it, as for you, you’re just the moron who believe the fringe and got lucky that you didn’t get a case of long term Covid!

[CortoMaltese]

they did their part and the government rewarded them for it, as for you, you’re just the moron who believe the fringe and got lucky that you didn’t get a case of long term Covid!

Freedom to travel should never be a reward from your government. This is not freedom...
No government should give you a reward for your behaviour, not in a democracy!

Most of the vaccinated did not do their part, they just wanted to travel and go to restaurants.
What to think of a society that asks a thousand questions before buying a television, but does not ask any to the one who imposes a compulsory injection with a product that has potentially dangerous side effects?

moron

Insult is the power of the one with no argument.


2.9 million people died from flu and pneumonia in 2018.
98% drop in flu cases by 2020.
2.8 million "covid deaths" in 2020.
It's really not that hard to understand what really happened...

[Bingo Fuel]

they did their part and the government rewarded them for it, as for you, you’re just the moron who believe the fringe and got lucky that you didn’t get a case of long term Covid!

Freedom to travel should never be a reward from your government. This is not freedom...
No government should give you a reward for your behaviour, not in a democracy!

Most of the vaccinated did not do their part, they just wanted to travel and go to restaurants.
What to think of a society that asks a thousand questions before buying a television, but does not ask any to the one who imposes a compulsory injection with a product that has potentially dangerous side effects?

moron

Insult is the power of the one with no argument.


2.9 million people died from flu and pneumonia in 2018.
98% drop in flu cases by 2020.
2.8 million "covid deaths" in 2020.
It's really not that hard to understand what really happened...

Got a source for that 2018 flu and pneumonia mortality?

[cdnavater]

they did their part and the government rewarded them for it, as for you, you’re just the moron who believe the fringe and got lucky that you didn’t get a case of long term Covid!

Freedom to travel should never be a reward from your government. This is not freedom...
No government should give you a reward for your behaviour, not in a democracy!

Most of the vaccinated did not do their part, they just wanted to travel and go to restaurants.
What to think of a society that asks a thousand questions before buying a television, but does not ask any to the one who imposes a compulsory injection with a product that has potentially dangerous side effects?

moron

Insult is the power of the one with no argument.


2.9 million people died from flu and pneumonia in 2018.
98% drop in flu cases by 2020.
2.8 million "covid deaths" in 2020.
It's really not that hard to understand what really happened...

Ok, let’s suppose your flu numbers are correct, that would be based on flu shot uptake, yes or no? The numbers would be worse with a low uptake, yes or no?

[CortoMaltese]

I heard those numbers on a French radio a few weeks ago, I remember the 2.8 and 2.9 numbers. But I'm sure you fact-checkers can find the exact numbers.

But those numbers were not my point, I just wanted to show that nobody died from the flu in 2020, the flu disappear that year! And there was about the same number of death from covid in 2020 than from the flu in 2018, and nobody talks about restrictions against the flu that particular year. And why didn't we have the flu on 2020, but only covid??

[Aviatard]

And why didn't we have the flu on 2020, but only covid??

Think... it will come to you. You're almost there.

Could it be that there was flu but the cases were reduced? How can that be? Maybe a bunch of doctors and other people got together and decided to mis-report flu cases as covid for some nefarious reason? Could it be that mask wearing, social distancing, lockdowns and other covid measures had the side effect of also reducing the incidence of other respiratory diseases?

[cdnavater]

I heard those numbers on a French radio a few weeks ago, I remember the 2.8 and 2.9 numbers. But I'm sure you fact-checkers can find the exact numbers.

But those numbers were not my point, I just wanted to show that nobody died from the flu in 2020, the flu disappear that year! And there was about the same number of death from covid in 2020 than from the flu in 2018, and nobody talks about restrictions against the flu that particular year. And why didn't we have the flu on 2020, but only covid??

Ok, so the numbers were not your point, what was your point then.
Why can’t you see that without the public health orders it most likely would have been worse and that the same measures taken to reduce transmission of Coronavirus would have the same effect on the flu transmission?
The WHO just declared Covid no longer a world emergency, can we move on from this now, I’m ready, I have been for quite some time but like a big car wreck, I can’t help myself!