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Post by centerstored »

Uncleron,

What kind of experience do you have? How did they get the results of your lab work in one hour??
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Post by Traf »

He has 250 hours, fresh IFR, no multi time and the lab showed his sperm count was low and that he definately had a coke problem!

Lol. Everytime someone gets hired the dweebs come out the woodwork trying to figure out what he had that got him hired. Let me save you the suspense. AC's hiring this round has been as unpredictable as an eggshaped golgball. People of all experience, race, gender, religious beliefs and sexual orientation have been interviewed, hired and turned down.

It is a crapshoot at best. Thro w your name in and give it a go. If they haven't called, then the dice just haven't rolled your way yet.
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Post by Front. »

no offence to anybody here, but some Air Canada pilots look like they were hired from being a toilet washer and some of them are a kind of wierd... is Air Canada looking for people perhaps that they can fool easily on benefits, wages and etc? Maybe you are even over qualified to work for them but they are scared that you will figure out their crappy system and leave them leaving them have to put in extra effort to find another pilot. There is a lot of hidden plumb face reasons on why they don't hire you, unfortunately the message the pilots recieves is that he isn't qualified while 1000 hours is the bare minimum to apply and expect some sort of employment, even "on-call." With 5 i think you are well to start on the A320.

For heavens sake, Air Canada kind of sends a "PFO" message to it's passengers, people have to pay if they call them up and reserve a specific seat number? LOL the biggest bias bull shit ever.

I wouldn't go too hard on my self man, personally being from an Iranian race i am really having second thoughts about employment in Canada - good thing i have easy access to Middle East and can go and fly for Emirates any time, any day, any where. Remember, Emirates has many hubs and you don't really need to move to "dubai" to get employed.

Or if i wanted too, i could move back to iran and work for my grand mom's brother in-laws airline "Mahan Air." They operate several A310's, A300's, A320's, MD83 i believe and some russian plane that looks like a 757 combined with a A320 lol. Look up pics on airliners net and you will see what i mean.

But for someone not familiar with Iran and it's culture, i don't see the possibility in them moving to iran LOL, so I would drive my ass to any local "Aviations World" store and pick up the 60 dollar package on "Preparing for your Emirates Interview" and apply, for all i know emirates is constantly expanding with new fleet causing the present pilots to get quick upgrades.
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Post by hind sight »

Glad things have worked out for you and you have a plan B.
Keep up the good work. :roll:
When did you get your PFO again?
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Post by Jeremy Kent »

Am I alone finding eemami's post somewhat offensive? Dude, if Canada's such a disappointment and our flag carrier is crewed by toilet washing weirdos, let me be the first to invite you to move on. I'm pretty sure no one's clamped a ball and chain to your ankle.
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Post by Strake »

Hey Jeremy,

We're dealing with a 16 year old kid, according to one of his other posts, I wouldn't waste your breath.

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Post by Spruce Moose »

Hey eemami, what did you find wierd about some of them :? ? Out of all the AC pilots i've met, they all seemed pretty cool/normal.
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Post by Front. »

that's what my opinion is bud, now if you have another opinion then so be it - but i don't like it how you take one statement and relate it to your whole country.

I love canada, more than i love sweden where it's the place of my birth, i don't see my self working here just cause of the attitude you just presented there. You take one story and build ontop of it.

Sorry, but that's the impression I've got from Air Canada pilots, now if you don't agree with it, there is other ways to say it.

And based on what other posts are you talking about?

It would be a pleasure clearing up any attitude that is disturbing your eyes in other threads. Please give me the link and i will clean it up.

Perhaps the issue of communicating skills is opened here, I may be saying something and mean it in another manner and you guys pick it up differently.

Yes it's true i am 16, but what does that have to do with anything? My opinions should still count and be either accepted or debated against.

Jeremy, I for no reason think that Canada is a toilet washing country - it's a great country, perhaps not the right place for my ability to get employed that's all. I mean after all the respecful feedback on what you guys thought about middle eastern races being hired, i got the message that roadblocks will come to haunt me down. And for sure, i m not asking for you to care whether i move on or not, but since when did the discussion come to my residence. I get the feeling that you are the "16 year old" here.

Spruce, to answer your question - after talking to many of them, they seem very cold hearted, not open to discussion about their job, and how it is, as well as having an ego. Opposed to WestJet i really saw those three characteristics as being the main ones reflecting my view on Air Canada's pilots. I do agree though that I shouldn't prejudice all of them, but I do also believe that an "invitation" to leave and Canada "as Jeremy" indirectly was proposing is very rude.

Thanks for your comments, afterall Jeremy, i do really appreciate the country you represent by applying comments like that. Very thoughtful on your behalf :roll:
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Post by Traf »

Don' let the door hit ya on the way out!!!
perhaps not the right place for my ability to get employed that's all
What abilities are you talking about? AT 16 you can't even hold a commercial licence. Flying a real airplane is not the same as flying in Microsoft Flight sim so I doubt you have any abilities to offer at this point aside from the ability to come on a forum and make idiotic statements about a group of people that in reality, you know nothing about.

Like I said, don let the door....
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Post by Front. »

Actually, i am waiting for my 17th birthday to take the PPL examinations, i've finished all other training.

And the ability i am talking about is my race, there are legal ways to work around not hiring foreign people. By the sounds of it, you don't know what that would feel like.

Sorry for taking over your post here man, i hope you do get into the airline you wish and that you look at a wise selection of your options - Air Canada is not the only airline out there.

I am sure you won't recieve a PFO letter from a much better airline that gives you more benefits and what not that perhaps fly more interesting aircraft anyway.

I'm out, no need to visit this post anymore, look's like the opposing parties have said what they wish.

Cheers
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Post by Jeremy Kent »

eemami,

One word: humilty.

Now many more! You stated that Air Canada is hiring weird people who must have previously been employed washing toilets. You postulate that these newhires were taken on because they are too stupid, uneducated and/or inexperienced to object to Air Canada's "crappy system" and lousy remuneration. You then go on to brag about how you can find employment in the Middle East at the drop of a hat, and further how much better it'd be to work there.

In spite of prefacing your post with "no offence to anybody here," it was very contemptuous. Even more so when we see that you haven't even worked a day in this industry. Do you honestly believe that you can slander CANADIAN airlines and CANADIAN pilots on an CANADIAN forum immediatey before glorifying the Middle East and no one will invite to go there?? If the Canadian industry is so beneath you, why even waste your breath on us poor, slovenly fools?

The feuds brewed in the anonymity on this forum befuddle me and I marvel at how I get wrapped up in them myself... but that said let me give you some advice. This is an industry where you are always learning and a little humility goes a long way. You cannot have it all figured out at 16. Accept that. Secondly, this industry is much smaller than you'd imagine. In most cases, your connections will only take you so far and being arrogant and abrasive nowhere.

Canada is an apotheosis of multiculturalism IMHO and I applaud that... I do not mean to insult by suggesting that you leave. If the aviation industry is so poor in Canada and so sublime in the Middle East and you can so easily find gainful employment there, then perhaps my suggestion is a good one?

Or perhaps a better suggestion is just that you grow up a little and confine your comments to that which you know something about.
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Post by Front. »

rgr sorry. i was being stupid. Was very angry at the time and descided to write it up - I shouldn't take my anger up on the forums.

Sorry Jeremy for my rude behaviours.
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Post by Jeremy Kent »

Well man, we're all passionate about what we do, and that can lead to shooting one's mouth off... yours truly definitely included. Sometimes seems that bickering is the only way things get hammered out in here, but no harm no foul!

Enjoy your flight training and good luck in your career!

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Post by Front. »

lol :) :lol:

I guess i really made my self stupid there bah :(
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Post by uncleron »

Centerstored,

I have over 6000 hours,6.5 years at Jazz,1.5 years on the RJ and a 4 year university degree.
As for the medical I can't explain it.The dr. said he was marking me down as fit and the job offer came an hour later with the disclaimer assuming that the blood work comes back negative.
That's all I know.I am frozen at Jazz another 6 months.

Hope that helps.
Cheers
p.s I have no family or friends at the mainline.
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Post by Jeremy Kent »

Congrats, uncleron! You must be pumped! :D
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Post by rcliffe »

Did they give you a course date?
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Post by centerstored »

Good for you uncleron, congrats.

Traf...screw you jacka$$. I'll ask what I want when I want on this forum. Nobody needs your permission to ask about someone's experience. Get a life.
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Post by bcflyer »

Do the PFO letters come via regular mail or are they sent as a registered letter?
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