Reserve out of base

[cdnavater]

I think I'd focus on finding new employment instead of working with the union on this piece of pay. I can't fathom how they've held on for this long and can't see them making it through 2024, especially with Porter adding an irrational amount of capacity in such a short timeframe. Everyone is losing right now, but Flair has the worst balance sheet and will ultimately be the biggest loser.

Irrational? You mean making strong business decisions based on the poor performance and withdrawal from certain markets from other airlines? Porter’s not losing. Porter is also not ULCC unlike what other’s think.

Yes, irrational, and yes, losing. Find me another example of an airline adding this many aircraft in this short a time frame successfully. And in this environment as well. With terrible utilization and relatively low load factors they have I'd bet my next 10 years pay that they will lose money on the E jets this year and unless multiple carriers go away it won't be getting better for a long time. Domestic yields are the worst, you know, where they are mostly exposed. And now to add places like MCO which is overserved as well isn't helping - there are 7 carriers on Toronto Orlando with capacity up about 25% vs pre pandemic! Not sustainable, yet with the delivery rate they're going to have to keep adding capacity to already overserved markets, there's only so much backfilling of the void WestJet left especially with business travel likely to stay lower for the foreseeable future.

I’m predicting an AT/Porter merger in 2024. The recent code share announcement was them testing the waters for a future merger.

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I think I'd focus on finding new employment instead of working with the union on this piece of pay. I can't fathom how they've held on for this long and can't see them making it through 2024, especially with Porter adding an irrational amount of capacity in such a short timeframe. Everyone is losing right now, but Flair has the worst balance sheet and will ultimately be the biggest loser.

Irrational? You mean making strong business decisions based on the poor performance and withdrawal from certain markets from other airlines? Porter’s not losing. Porter is also not ULCC unlike what other’s think.

Yes, irrational, and yes, losing. Find me another example of an airline adding this many aircraft in this short a time frame successfully. And in this environment as well. With terrible utilization and relatively low load factors they have I'd bet my next 10 years pay that they will lose money on the E jets this year and unless multiple carriers go away it won't be getting better for a long time. Domestic yields are the worst, you know, where they are mostly exposed. And now to add places like MCO which is overserved as well isn't helping - there are 7 carriers on Toronto Orlando with capacity up about 25% vs pre pandemic! Not sustainable, yet with the delivery rate they're going to have to keep adding capacity to already overserved markets, there's only so much backfilling of the void WestJet left especially with business travel likely to stay lower for the foreseeable future.

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[CaptDukeNukem]

I think I'd focus on finding new employment instead of working with the union on this piece of pay. I can't fathom how they've held on for this long and can't see them making it through 2024, especially with Porter adding an irrational amount of capacity in such a short timeframe. Everyone is losing right now, but Flair has the worst balance sheet and will ultimately be the biggest loser.

Irrational? You mean making strong business decisions based on the poor performance and withdrawal from certain markets from other airlines? Porter’s not losing. Porter is also not ULCC unlike what other’s think.

Yes, irrational, and yes, losing. Find me another example of an airline adding this many aircraft in this short a time frame successfully. And in this environment as well. With terrible utilization and relatively low load factors they have I'd bet my next 10 years pay that they will lose money on the E jets this year and unless multiple carriers go away it won't be getting better for a long time. Domestic yields are the worst, you know, where they are mostly exposed. And now to add places like MCO which is overserved as well isn't helping - there are 7 carriers on Toronto Orlando with capacity up about 25% vs pre pandemic! Not sustainable, yet with the delivery rate they're going to have to keep adding capacity to already overserved markets, there's only so much backfilling of the void WestJet left especially with business travel likely to stay lower for the foreseeable future.

Cool, thanks for your opinion. I don’t have an example of another airline adding 75 new airplanes to their 17 year operation, but I know the people at the very top kinda know what they doing in aviation.

I guess it’s all a gamble. Maybe I’ll have to fly a dollar a jumper out of a clapped out caravan to end my career. I’ll take that risk.

[Smilin' Jack]

Can't do reserve when you don't have crew rest facilities.

Over the last couple of weeks, multiple crews have been dispatched to multiple locations and not had a hotel or transportation and in some cases no staff to arrive the flight.

Multiple crews have reported waits of 3+ hours for ground transportation. Repeated calls to management only to be told to walk to the hotel. Walk. Seriously. Cancelled hotel bookings requiring last second hotel changes that take hours of back and forth calls to crew scheduling. Last guy I talked to took over 3 hours just to get a truck stop hotel in the middle of cancun.

Completely unacceptable but good way to destroy the chance of doing any reserve away from base.

[Michel Myers]

That’s ridiculous yes. But do you really think posting the internal issues of your airline on a public forum is the most appropriate or professional thing to do ?

[Tbayer2021]

That’s ridiculous yes. But do you really think posting the internal issues of your airline on a public forum is the most appropriate or professional thing to do ?

Shouldn't individuals interested in applying have a complete picture of the realities there? I doubt management or HR would say these things even if asked during an interview.

[Aviator12]

Maybe nothing to do with reserve out of base but what’s going on with Flairs OTP lately…YYC a few days ago. Consistant delays everywhere this month.

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[ColonelKlink]

Delays like those are what happens when an airline that has never been able to figure out layovers fills their schedule with layovers. There's a lot of rolling issues.

And when it comes to airing dirty laundry? I would encourage every pilot here to share their experience when times are good. When times are bad people should be just as honest about that. This industry is small, rumors about flair pilots walking to their hotel in Cancun are going to happen anyway, so yeah give people a clear picture. Put some pressure on certain people to finally push for changes to be made.

[Blackdog0301]

That’s ridiculous yes. But do you really think posting the internal issues of your airline on a public forum is the most appropriate or professional thing to do ?

If you aren't happy with how things are being run, absolutely you should share these experiences!!! No one who is happy at their company is going to share negative experiences like this. People need to know what they may be getting into!