Are posters like ShillBill and HFNav aware that they’re talking out of their ass?

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Are posters like ShillBill and HFNav aware that they’re talking out of their ass?

Yes - they are just trolls
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No - if ignorance was bliss they’d be multi orgasmic
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N/A - they are all wise and should be negotiating on behalf of all of us
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cdnavater
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Re: Are posters like ShillBill and HFNav aware that they’re talking out of their ass?

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twa22 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:42 am Do you both realize acountant is a troll account for the the real "accountant" who generally antagonized people around here?
Yes, that’s why “acountant” is in quotes.
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Re: Are posters like ShillBill and HFNav aware that they’re talking out of their ass?

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cdnavater wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:18 am
acountant wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:13 pm Wowzers!

Does that mean Air Canada pilots should be careful too?

Are they going to shutdown Edmonton (only 2.5 hrs from Calgary) or Montreal (5 hrs drive plus train options from Toronto)

Or maybe Ottawa (2 hrs from Montreal)

Or Toronto (only 1.5 hrs from Buffalo)

Perhaps Winnipeg and people drive to Grand Forks or Regina and people drive to Minot?

It's crazy how pilots are the make or break for entire operations. Hopefully at the very least we can travel on American carriers where their pilots make double but somehow aren't the make or break point?
Do you understand the difference between an operation running 18ish Q400s and a mainline operating 117 737s and how a 737 could cover most of the Q flying with reduced frequency?
Surely an “acountant” would understand seat costs, there is an amount where the 737 becomes more efficient at reduced frequency, surely an “acountant” would get that.
Now, I would argue if Encore were flying all 47 of the fleet, they would have had more leverage, but shutting down 18-20 and the cost benefits of the redundant workers, like accountants, managers, etc would outweigh the benefits of increased wages.
So pilots and their unions control the business models for corporations?

Should Encore pilots maybe take paycuts for more rapid upgrades and get all those 47 airplanes flying?

Upgrades = more money!
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Re: Are posters like ShillBill and HFNav aware that they’re talking out of their ass?

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eurotrash wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:30 pm
cdnavater wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:18 am
acountant wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:13 pm Wowzers!

Does that mean Air Canada pilots should be careful too?

Are they going to shutdown Edmonton (only 2.5 hrs from Calgary) or Montreal (5 hrs drive plus train options from Toronto)

Or maybe Ottawa (2 hrs from Montreal)

Or Toronto (only 1.5 hrs from Buffalo)

Perhaps Winnipeg and people drive to Grand Forks or Regina and people drive to Minot?

It's crazy how pilots are the make or break for entire operations. Hopefully at the very least we can travel on American carriers where their pilots make double but somehow aren't the make or break point?
Do you understand the difference between an operation running 18ish Q400s and a mainline operating 117 737s and how a 737 could cover most of the Q flying with reduced frequency?
Surely an “acountant” would understand seat costs, there is an amount where the 737 becomes more efficient at reduced frequency, surely an “acountant” would get that.
Now, I would argue if Encore were flying all 47 of the fleet, they would have had more leverage, but shutting down 18-20 and the cost benefits of the redundant workers, like accountants, managers, etc would outweigh the benefits of increased wages.
So pilots and their unions control the business models for corporations?

Should Encore pilots maybe take paycuts for more rapid upgrades and get all those 47 airplanes flying?

Upgrades = more money!
If you can’t follow along with the discussion before commenting don’t, you make yourself look stupid!
The discussion is on whether or not Encore pilots had leverage with a strike and the whether or not WJ management would just shut it down, pay attention next time!
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Re: Are posters like ShillBill and HFNav aware that they’re talking out of their ass?

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cdnavater wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:43 pm
eurotrash wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:30 pm
cdnavater wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:18 am Do you understand the difference between an operation running 18ish Q400s and a mainline operating 117 737s and how a 737 could cover most of the Q flying with reduced frequency?
Surely an “acountant” would understand seat costs, there is an amount where the 737 becomes more efficient at reduced frequency, surely an “acountant” would get that.
Now, I would argue if Encore were flying all 47 of the fleet, they would have had more leverage, but shutting down 18-20 and the cost benefits of the redundant workers, like accountants, managers, etc would outweigh the benefits of increased wages.
So pilots and their unions control the business models for corporations?

Should Encore pilots maybe take paycuts for more rapid upgrades and get all those 47 airplanes flying?

Upgrades = more money!
If you can’t follow along with the discussion before commenting don’t, you make yourself look stupid!
The discussion is on whether or not Encore pilots had leverage with a strike and the whether or not WJ management would just shut it down, pay attention next time!
You can't reason or get through to these one track one dimensional thinking types cdnavater. Most of them haven't been around long enough to know how things work and the progression timeline to achieve things. So to those, while there have been setbacks and we are lagging, the industry in Canada is in the process of righting itself. It doesn't happen over night.
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