AC or Porter?

[cdnavater]

As a current Porter DEC from when we launched the program I can say with certainty that the Porter earning are NOT nearly what AC's is UNLESS he built out his spread sheet based on the average of the credits per month that he is working vs. MMG at AC.

There is zero QOL at Porter (I had 5 scheduled days off from Sept 20 to Oct 15th, yes you read that right and I bid at 49%). Unfortunately the Porter pilot is a cog in the Deluce wheel and they are purely throwing money at the pilot group (classic Deluce move), and each time bring in concessions. Lots of pilots are happy with working obscene amounts for the 260K T4, but they do not have any days at home with family. Whats the point in making all that money when you live at work. I would happily, work for current pay and less days work and defined work rules with no ambiguity oppose to a base salary of 250K.

Any 30 something guy, if offered a AC spot I would pull shoot quick and go without hesitation. All earnings at Air Can FAR exceed what you will make at POE and once you have abit of seniority your QOL will be far superior than Porter.

Wwwhhhaaaatttt? If you buy into Duke’s perception, Porter is the place to be!
I’m really curious about this next benchmark, what other concessions will they slip in there, without the need for DECs will they even raise the pay?
This will be the true test of union vs non union environment, my guess is they will barely increase it, if at all and see if they lose a bunch to AC first!

[SPR]

This will be the true test of union vs non union environment...

In my opinion, the true test of a union vs non-union environment is not what happens when things are good, but when things are bad. It's great when management throws raises at pilots during boom times, but as soon as things slow down that money can be taken back and layoffs can be done out of seniority without a CBA. All these guys who are opposed to Porter pilots unionizing because they don't have to negotiate for better payscales are going to be singing a different tune in a recession.

[Inverted2]

I looked into it and the increased pay vs. the fewer perks; not worth it for me. No pension, pay your own parking, and not even paid accommodations during your training.

[rudder]

Bottom line for Porter or any other Part 705 carrier - if you are working more than 15 days per month you do not have a great job, regardless of T4.

Sadly, that metric means most of the Part 705 jobs in Canada are not great.