2025 Pilot Recruitment

[fish4life]

More important than wages for AT is going to be scope. Porter shouldn’t be allowed to operate anything for AT North south. That flying is AT flying and needs to stay that way, the only thing porter (or anyone else) can / should be allowed is connecting people from other domestic city pairs to AT.

[Tbayer2021]

Continuously comparing is what drives negotiations. So yes, we should. Contracts don’t just “arrive”.

Continuously comparing to up to date and modern contracts. Not 10 year old ones on their way out. But feel free to tell your new MEC and NC at porter to base their negotiations off of AC's, TS's and WJ's old contract if you like.

Umm yea, 10 year old contracts are still used in negotiations. It’s not the length that matters. But they still are used. Projections regarding COLA increases and how other airlines are changing their old contracts is very good for benchmarks . But cool; you’re awesome cuz you know everything.

I expect the first POE contract to be status quo and mediocre, as are most first contracts. Especially since the company seemed to match other airlines via annual benchmarking. Some scheduling rules and scope are probably gonna be the main event.

Your next contract is going to be a slight improvement based off of pattern bargaining like every other airline in North America does? That's some hard hitting analysis right there!

[CaptDukeNukem]

Continuously comparing to up to date and modern contracts. Not 10 year old ones on their way out. But feel free to tell your new MEC and NC at porter to base their negotiations off of AC's, TS's and WJ's old contract if you like.

Umm yea, 10 year old contracts are still used in negotiations. It’s not the length that matters. But they still are used. Projections regarding COLA increases and how other airlines are changing their old contracts is very good for benchmarks . But cool; you’re awesome cuz you know everything.

I expect the first POE contract to be status quo and mediocre, as are most first contracts. Especially since the company seemed to match other airlines via annual benchmarking. Some scheduling rules and scope are probably gonna be the main event.

Your next contract is going to be a slight improvement based off of pattern bargaining like every other airline in North America does? That's some hard hitting analysis right there!

Yup, I spent all of 30 seconds of my vacation time thinking about it. Probably 15 too many.

[8895]

More important than wages for AT is going to be scope. Porter shouldn’t be allowed to operate anything for AT North south. That flying is AT flying and needs to stay that way, the only thing porter (or anyone else) can / should be allowed is connecting people from other domestic city pairs to AT.

Why does it “need to stay that way”? AT has the equipment for more longer haul markets. I’m sure they’ll be some overlap down the road with the southern sun flying but in the end I doubt Porter’s gonna let a company with a poor balance sheet and provincial bailouts tell it what it can and can’t do for its growth strategy lol that just wouldn’t make sense on their end. If anything AT will probably just enter new markets like they’re doing with Rio if Porter cannibalizes too much of their sun flying. Each company leveraging the possible strengths of the other gives both the best chance at establishing themselves in a market dominated by AC and WJ.