Thats just it. KD DOES have a lot of calories. Hence fat pilots.Bookem Lou wrote:I'm thinking that most if not all of you aren't actually pilots. If you really were pilots, how could you afford enough food to get fat. KD doesn't have that many calories.
Sincerely,
A poor skinny underpaid pilot
avcanada weight loss challenge
Moderators: lilfssister, North Shore, sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako
I haven't really changed my diet with the exception of portion sizing and drinking more water. Even if I fall off the wagon, I simply jump back in, watch the portions, attempt to get back to my daily points allowance and continue on. Probably the easiest weight loss program I have ever been on...no starving for the 1st week like a lot of diets.Pilot_adam wrote:Oh nice, So what was your diet like and is weight watchers worth they money ??kzcvtm wrote:Started @ 215 on Sep 22/06 now down to 192 this a.m. Decided to join with the wife on Weight Watchers....she goes to the meetings and I follow the program with her.
Still have to lose another 10 - 15 lbs or so....gonna throw off my Weight and Balance calcs......oh well.
Adam
My wife feels the money is a good investment....lots of good info at the meetings as well as the general encouragement from a group of people all in the same boat as you are.
-
- Rank 10
- Posts: 2850
- Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:05 pm
- Location: Toy Poodle Town, Manitoba
- Contact:
Do you have to check your testicles at the door? I mean I just picture a bunch of larger folks sitting talking about their cravings.
No disrespect, my man junk doesn't weigh that much so losing them isn't going to help me when I stand on the scale.
I don't think I need a points system, more just to stop stuffing food that tastes good in my fat gullet.
But good information for those interested...just not my cup of tea.
No disrespect, my man junk doesn't weigh that much so losing them isn't going to help me when I stand on the scale.
I don't think I need a points system, more just to stop stuffing food that tastes good in my fat gullet.
But good information for those interested...just not my cup of tea.
-
- Rank 8
- Posts: 928
- Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:09 pm
glad to finally see some more people take weight and their health seriously (especially the guys, no offence, but dudes don't seem to notice their love junk getting out of control until it's just plain junk)
Try this: eat only foods with recognizable ingredients in it - be able to pronounce or at least know about everything you eat... AND have a look at that list of ingredients in your "healthy" cereals... i'll betcha your 2nd ingredient is either sugar, sucrose, fructose or glucose. very frustrating.
And remember that butter is OK in moderation...it's pure, made from Cream =One ingredient... margarine however - what the hell IS margarine anyway...
margarine = evil
Right on kids for taking care of yourselves!!!!
yes, you CAN make friends with salad!!!
Try this: eat only foods with recognizable ingredients in it - be able to pronounce or at least know about everything you eat... AND have a look at that list of ingredients in your "healthy" cereals... i'll betcha your 2nd ingredient is either sugar, sucrose, fructose or glucose. very frustrating.
And remember that butter is OK in moderation...it's pure, made from Cream =One ingredient... margarine however - what the hell IS margarine anyway...

Right on kids for taking care of yourselves!!!!


6'6 and 255..down from 270 3 months ago...no specific diet...just portion watching and getting off my fat ass to exercise...lots of water....goal is 235 according to my doctor..taken up squash during golf off-season..very good workout..especially when you play against office fitness freak once a week
I too am looking to lean down for some upcoming races this year, but it hasn't been easy, would like to drop 10 pounds.
North Shore, are you doing the Victoria Marathon in the fall? That is my plan so far, although my goal is under 4 hours, not 3 (wow), also doing Vegas for fun.
North Shore, are you doing the Victoria Marathon in the fall? That is my plan so far, although my goal is under 4 hours, not 3 (wow), also doing Vegas for fun.
-
- Rank 1
- Posts: 31
- Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:02 am
- Location: Ontario
I was sitting at 210 lbs and 5'11'' last year. Down to 198 lbs and still 5'11".
I cut the beer consumption by half and increased the wine by 20%. Probably not the best strategy but I did lose lbs. I am not much for fast food but I sure like good cheese. That will be the next vice to be reduced. I have always exercised, so that was not the problem. The food is the problem 95% of the time.
Let's stop stuffing our faces full of treats.
My goal is 185 lbs by April 15th. Here we go.
I cut the beer consumption by half and increased the wine by 20%. Probably not the best strategy but I did lose lbs. I am not much for fast food but I sure like good cheese. That will be the next vice to be reduced. I have always exercised, so that was not the problem. The food is the problem 95% of the time.
Let's stop stuffing our faces full of treats.
My goal is 185 lbs by April 15th. Here we go.
I was in a bar last night, and ended up sitting next to Cpt SnJ's gf.
I told her she was looking pretty good (was trying to ignore the smell) and she said she'd lost some weight recently.
Really, I answered? How much, if you don't mind me asking?
She said she lost 220lbs and a big fat ass.
So, I replied, you two finally broke up, eh?
But seriously ... if you're young, and porky, you've got a problem. Most people gain around 1.5 lbs/year as they age. So, another 20 or 30 years isn't going to help much.
It's arithmetic. Calories in, calories out. If you create enough heat, you can eat pretty much all you want. Also it's genetics: some people convert excess calories to fat, others easily convert them to heat and stay thin.
I told her she was looking pretty good (was trying to ignore the smell) and she said she'd lost some weight recently.
Really, I answered? How much, if you don't mind me asking?
She said she lost 220lbs and a big fat ass.
So, I replied, you two finally broke up, eh?

But seriously ... if you're young, and porky, you've got a problem. Most people gain around 1.5 lbs/year as they age. So, another 20 or 30 years isn't going to help much.
It's arithmetic. Calories in, calories out. If you create enough heat, you can eat pretty much all you want. Also it's genetics: some people convert excess calories to fat, others easily convert them to heat and stay thin.
Well, I am of a certain age where my doc told me that my cholesterol was getting to be a problem, so I saw a nutritionist...I am losing weight too, and I may even miss my first heart attack! Very important for pilots. You do lose weight and you won't put it back on next Fall.
1. Cut out ALL trans fats - no more french fries, ever.
2. Cut out ALL saturated fats - no butter, even if it is 'natural,'
3. No mayo - none.
4. Add high fibre foods such as brown rice (get a cooker) and eliminate white flour and white rice, minimize pasta unless its whole wheat.
5. No added sugar! Pop etc., never again.
6. As said before, read the labels! Avoid high-sodium foods, like some soups! Avoid foods high in cholestrol. Avoid the 'bad' fats like coconut oil and palm oil (poison) and eat canola and olive oils. You still need some fats and some cholestrol, just not as much as you're getting.
7. 3 eggs a week MAX.
8. Margarine is ok if it has no trans fats and is made with canola, but what do you need it for anyway? It is not necessary. Lose it.
9. Small quantities of peanut butter good.
10. Try protein substitutes like nuts instead of meat - if you have to eat meat, small portions - my son ate a 26 oz. steak the other day - 3 oz is better. He's skinny, by the way.
11. If you have to have a piece of chocolate cake or go insane (bingeing) make that piece last all week instead of pigging out Sunday.
There's more, a lot more - a trip to a nutritionist is covered by your medical plan.
The Japanese are the longest-living of all people. Eat sushi, but not California rolls - they have mayo!
It took me three months to adapt to my new diet, where I don't crave burgers and fries, butter etc. What is VERY difficult is restaurants - especially in the north, where grease is the common denominator. If you dabble in the 'bad' foods you will never adapt - you must commit to a better diet "wholeheartedly" or you will always be miserable. If you go to McDonalds once a week, you're f*cked and fooling yourselves.
Skim milk, low-fat yoghurt, lite cream cheese, lentils, lots of fish, small meat portions, NO FRIED FOODS except stir-fried.
If you want a shock, go to a BC hospital, not to see patients but to look at the nurses! Massive lumps of humanity who should know better!
Anyway, I don't want to be a food-preacher, but a free nutritionist visit is good and may help you keep your medical. Otherwise you might end up being the guy that runs the simulator every day for the rest of your life......
1. Cut out ALL trans fats - no more french fries, ever.
2. Cut out ALL saturated fats - no butter, even if it is 'natural,'
3. No mayo - none.
4. Add high fibre foods such as brown rice (get a cooker) and eliminate white flour and white rice, minimize pasta unless its whole wheat.
5. No added sugar! Pop etc., never again.
6. As said before, read the labels! Avoid high-sodium foods, like some soups! Avoid foods high in cholestrol. Avoid the 'bad' fats like coconut oil and palm oil (poison) and eat canola and olive oils. You still need some fats and some cholestrol, just not as much as you're getting.
7. 3 eggs a week MAX.
8. Margarine is ok if it has no trans fats and is made with canola, but what do you need it for anyway? It is not necessary. Lose it.
9. Small quantities of peanut butter good.
10. Try protein substitutes like nuts instead of meat - if you have to eat meat, small portions - my son ate a 26 oz. steak the other day - 3 oz is better. He's skinny, by the way.
11. If you have to have a piece of chocolate cake or go insane (bingeing) make that piece last all week instead of pigging out Sunday.
There's more, a lot more - a trip to a nutritionist is covered by your medical plan.
The Japanese are the longest-living of all people. Eat sushi, but not California rolls - they have mayo!
It took me three months to adapt to my new diet, where I don't crave burgers and fries, butter etc. What is VERY difficult is restaurants - especially in the north, where grease is the common denominator. If you dabble in the 'bad' foods you will never adapt - you must commit to a better diet "wholeheartedly" or you will always be miserable. If you go to McDonalds once a week, you're f*cked and fooling yourselves.
Skim milk, low-fat yoghurt, lite cream cheese, lentils, lots of fish, small meat portions, NO FRIED FOODS except stir-fried.
If you want a shock, go to a BC hospital, not to see patients but to look at the nurses! Massive lumps of humanity who should know better!
Anyway, I don't want to be a food-preacher, but a free nutritionist visit is good and may help you keep your medical. Otherwise you might end up being the guy that runs the simulator every day for the rest of your life......
"What's it doing now?"
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
Hedley speaks words of wisdom: Calories in, Calories out…
Im 5’ 11” 3 years ago I got on the scale and saw 206, I felt that at the ripe old age of 20 that was less than acceptable to I got my fat lazy ass into my running shoes and just like forest said, I started to run. That accompanied by a rather fun little bout of crash dieting got me down to 138 inside of 2 ½ months (I targeted low so once I started to bring my caloric intake back up once I had settled out id be at a good weight, (and for the past 3 years iv been hovering in the 150-160 range.)
Its all energy management,
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
use the above to calculate your BMR or Base Metabolic Rate, which is the number of Calories (a measurement of energy) that your body burns a day keeping you alive, IE pumping the heart, making electrical energy to power the brain, keeping your core temp where it should be, breathing etc… (The average male has a BMR somewhere on the lines of 2000 Cals)
one LBS of fat contains somewhere on the order of 3000 Cals of energy, so if you want to loose weight you must create an energy deficit in your body. For every 3000 Caloric deficit you produce you will loose ~1 lbs.
A few things you can do:
Force your body to consume more energy
1) The obvious, EXERCISE running is my personal favorite, good cardio etc (try and burn at least 300 Cals a day running.)
2) Every opportunity you have in the day to burn more, take it… run the stairs rather than walk them, don’t use a Tug if your flying something small enough to be moved by hand etc…
3) Weight training, Muscle requires a HUGE amount of energy to MAINTAIN, IE if your sitting around smelling flowers all day and you have an extra 15 lbs of muscle compared to your identical twin you will have a higher BMR READ bigger daily deficit
4) Weight training also increases other metabolic processes (more on that later)
5) Wear a colder jacket, your core will be forced to stay at 98 degrees, if you expose it to cold it will have to burn more fuel to keep you at temperature
6) Drink a LOT of VERY cold water a calorie (small c is the amount of heat needed to raise one gram of water by one degree C) SO… one liter of water needs 1000calories to be raised by one degree. 1000calories is equal to 1 Calorie (or a kilocalorie). SO drinking 1 Liter of water that is just above freezing will entail a degree change of about 33C until it reaches body temp, so for every liter of COLD water you drink thow shalt burn ~ 33Calories. Your kidneys can healthily process up to 15 liters of water a day so lets be conservative and say you water yourself out and have say 10 liters a day, that’s 330 calories JUST from drinking water!!!
7) Think about a Thermogenic, (probably when your not flying) although pill popping will NOT make you thin, they CAN make a difference when coupled with other things (diet exercise etc…) I have heard Unsubstantiated reports that they can boost metabolism by as much as 10% a day.
8 ) DIET!!!! Stay the hell away from any Trans or saturated fats (for your hearts sake) stick with fresh foods in fact they are…. Get this….. CHEPER (at least in the city) than fast food, processed food etc… its not out of budget that people eat poorly its out of lazyness. When I was crash dieting I cut my self down to something on the order of 100-200 Cals a day (2 eggs) however that is perhaps a bit extreme, just look at EVERYTHING you consume, look at the little placards they put on food, or look it up online, (also they are sneaky buggers) look at a bottle of coke for example, it will tell you 160 Calories HOWEVER look up son! This is a 1.5 Liter bottle and that placard says per 1 serving of 355ml. Meaning they are saying that one bottle is actually meant to be shared with 4.2 people. If you drink the whole thing your looking at 676 Calories that coupled with a burger and fries 704Cals (big mac) and 570Cals (Large Fries) +50Cals (Ketchup) your looking at 2000Cals Even, your BMR for the day in ONE meal…… If you make a point to keep your daily intake say at least 1000 Cals under your BMR then you will be loosing weight just fine and http://www.thedailyplate.com/ is a good way of tracking numbers if you want to go that rout.
9) Don’t cheat. Once you start dieting your body goes into starvation mode, it will try to lower your metabolism and remove muscle if your not using it, all in an attempt to LOWER your BMR. At the same time your stomach will become more efficient at consuming energy so before you were dieting eating a pizza may not have been a problem, now that your body is in starvation mode that one pizza will have far more effect on you as your body will try and hold on to that energy as long as possible. This is the same reason that some races of people who have evolved in around different food situations (hunter gatherer vs farmer) are more prone to obesity than others. Their metabolism has been hardwired to be in starvation mode, where as the average Caucasoid usually had easier access to high energy foods IE LESS prone to obesity. This also brings up another thing (booze) very high in energy, and on top of that a depressant IE it will lower your metabolism, so be advised….
End rant…
Im 5’ 11” 3 years ago I got on the scale and saw 206, I felt that at the ripe old age of 20 that was less than acceptable to I got my fat lazy ass into my running shoes and just like forest said, I started to run. That accompanied by a rather fun little bout of crash dieting got me down to 138 inside of 2 ½ months (I targeted low so once I started to bring my caloric intake back up once I had settled out id be at a good weight, (and for the past 3 years iv been hovering in the 150-160 range.)
Its all energy management,
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
use the above to calculate your BMR or Base Metabolic Rate, which is the number of Calories (a measurement of energy) that your body burns a day keeping you alive, IE pumping the heart, making electrical energy to power the brain, keeping your core temp where it should be, breathing etc… (The average male has a BMR somewhere on the lines of 2000 Cals)
one LBS of fat contains somewhere on the order of 3000 Cals of energy, so if you want to loose weight you must create an energy deficit in your body. For every 3000 Caloric deficit you produce you will loose ~1 lbs.
A few things you can do:
Force your body to consume more energy
1) The obvious, EXERCISE running is my personal favorite, good cardio etc (try and burn at least 300 Cals a day running.)
2) Every opportunity you have in the day to burn more, take it… run the stairs rather than walk them, don’t use a Tug if your flying something small enough to be moved by hand etc…
3) Weight training, Muscle requires a HUGE amount of energy to MAINTAIN, IE if your sitting around smelling flowers all day and you have an extra 15 lbs of muscle compared to your identical twin you will have a higher BMR READ bigger daily deficit
4) Weight training also increases other metabolic processes (more on that later)
5) Wear a colder jacket, your core will be forced to stay at 98 degrees, if you expose it to cold it will have to burn more fuel to keep you at temperature
6) Drink a LOT of VERY cold water a calorie (small c is the amount of heat needed to raise one gram of water by one degree C) SO… one liter of water needs 1000calories to be raised by one degree. 1000calories is equal to 1 Calorie (or a kilocalorie). SO drinking 1 Liter of water that is just above freezing will entail a degree change of about 33C until it reaches body temp, so for every liter of COLD water you drink thow shalt burn ~ 33Calories. Your kidneys can healthily process up to 15 liters of water a day so lets be conservative and say you water yourself out and have say 10 liters a day, that’s 330 calories JUST from drinking water!!!
7) Think about a Thermogenic, (probably when your not flying) although pill popping will NOT make you thin, they CAN make a difference when coupled with other things (diet exercise etc…) I have heard Unsubstantiated reports that they can boost metabolism by as much as 10% a day.
8 ) DIET!!!! Stay the hell away from any Trans or saturated fats (for your hearts sake) stick with fresh foods in fact they are…. Get this….. CHEPER (at least in the city) than fast food, processed food etc… its not out of budget that people eat poorly its out of lazyness. When I was crash dieting I cut my self down to something on the order of 100-200 Cals a day (2 eggs) however that is perhaps a bit extreme, just look at EVERYTHING you consume, look at the little placards they put on food, or look it up online, (also they are sneaky buggers) look at a bottle of coke for example, it will tell you 160 Calories HOWEVER look up son! This is a 1.5 Liter bottle and that placard says per 1 serving of 355ml. Meaning they are saying that one bottle is actually meant to be shared with 4.2 people. If you drink the whole thing your looking at 676 Calories that coupled with a burger and fries 704Cals (big mac) and 570Cals (Large Fries) +50Cals (Ketchup) your looking at 2000Cals Even, your BMR for the day in ONE meal…… If you make a point to keep your daily intake say at least 1000 Cals under your BMR then you will be loosing weight just fine and http://www.thedailyplate.com/ is a good way of tracking numbers if you want to go that rout.
9) Don’t cheat. Once you start dieting your body goes into starvation mode, it will try to lower your metabolism and remove muscle if your not using it, all in an attempt to LOWER your BMR. At the same time your stomach will become more efficient at consuming energy so before you were dieting eating a pizza may not have been a problem, now that your body is in starvation mode that one pizza will have far more effect on you as your body will try and hold on to that energy as long as possible. This is the same reason that some races of people who have evolved in around different food situations (hunter gatherer vs farmer) are more prone to obesity than others. Their metabolism has been hardwired to be in starvation mode, where as the average Caucasoid usually had easier access to high energy foods IE LESS prone to obesity. This also brings up another thing (booze) very high in energy, and on top of that a depressant IE it will lower your metabolism, so be advised….
End rant…
- Dust Devil
- Rank 11
- Posts: 4027
- Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:55 am
- Location: Riderville
@#$! it I'm out!!xsbank wrote:Well, I am of a certain age where my doc told me that my cholesterol was getting to be a problem, so I saw a nutritionist...I am losing weight too, and I may even miss my first heart attack! Very important for pilots. You do lose weight and you won't put it back on next Fall.
1. Cut out ALL trans fats - no more french fries, ever.
2. Cut out ALL saturated fats - no butter, even if it is 'natural,'
3. No mayo - none.
4. Add high fibre foods such as brown rice (get a cooker) and eliminate white flour and white rice, minimize pasta unless its whole wheat.
5. No added sugar! Pop etc., never again.
6. As said before, read the labels! Avoid high-sodium foods, like some soups! Avoid foods high in cholestrol. Avoid the 'bad' fats like coconut oil and palm oil (poison) and eat canola and olive oils. You still need some fats and some cholestrol, just not as much as you're getting.
7. 3 eggs a week MAX.
8. Margarine is ok if it has no trans fats and is made with canola, but what do you need it for anyway? It is not necessary. Lose it.
9. Small quantities of peanut butter good.
10. Try protein substitutes like nuts instead of meat - if you have to eat meat, small portions - my son ate a 26 oz. steak the other day - 3 oz is better. He's skinny, by the way.
11. If you have to have a piece of chocolate cake or go insane (bingeing) make that piece last all week instead of pigging out Sunday.
There's more, a lot more - a trip to a nutritionist is covered by your medical plan.
The Japanese are the longest-living of all people. Eat sushi, but not California rolls - they have mayo!
It took me three months to adapt to my new diet, where I don't crave burgers and fries, butter etc. What is VERY difficult is restaurants - especially in the north, where grease is the common denominator. If you dabble in the 'bad' foods you will never adapt - you must commit to a better diet "wholeheartedly" or you will always be miserable. If you go to McDonalds once a week, you're f*cked and fooling yourselves.
Skim milk, low-fat yoghurt, lite cream cheese, lentils, lots of fish, small meat portions, NO FRIED FOODS except stir-fried.
If you want a shock, go to a BC hospital, not to see patients but to look at the nurses! Massive lumps of humanity who should know better!
Anyway, I don't want to be a food-preacher, but a free nutritionist visit is good and may help you keep your medical. Otherwise you might end up being the guy that runs the simulator every day for the rest of your life......
//=S=//
A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed
A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed
-
- Rank Moderator
- Posts: 5621
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:47 pm
- Location: Straight outta Dundarave...
Hear, hear! Simple mathematics...t's arithmetic. Calories in, calories out.
Fusion: Yup, RVM, Oct 7th. 241 days to go...3 hours is the goal - I ran a 1:29 half in YYZ last October, and I was doing a lot of bike riding last summer. This summer, a lot of running is the plan, so we'll see how things go.
Say, what's that mountain goat doing up here in the mist?
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
-
- Rank 5
- Posts: 393
- Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 3:28 pm
- Location: CYHM
Well , Thanks everyone i guess we have had very good posts and advice on the subject , I am on a simple low calorie diet and would like to stick to it as I have bad experiences with crash diets in the past (The weight simply came back FAST !!!) .
I tired Thermogenic in the past and it worked great (Lost about 30 lbs in a month) but I can't get it no more because it has ephedra which is off the market ,but again the weight came back (WAS 220 went down to 185) and now I am at 250
so frankly my life has been a roller coaster with weight lose and weight gain ...
I am going to make it a life style change,I will eat healthy and only when I am hungry and I will try to exercise 3 to 4 days a week.
Good luck every one
Adam
I tired Thermogenic in the past and it worked great (Lost about 30 lbs in a month) but I can't get it no more because it has ephedra which is off the market ,but again the weight came back (WAS 220 went down to 185) and now I am at 250

I am going to make it a life style change,I will eat healthy and only when I am hungry and I will try to exercise 3 to 4 days a week.
Good luck every one
Adam
The thing is it’s a life style change, if you get to your weight you cant just go back to what you did to get there in the first place, it needs a total mind shift…..
Also I should have added, if you do a crash diet when you reach your target you cant just the next day jump into eating “heavy” foods again you have to ween your way back up over a few months; (IE the whole transition from starvation.) That’s why people roller coaster. Also if you want say 160 as your target, aim lower, say 150…. Then after you have come out of starvation you will settle out somewhere around 160 or so…. Then keep an eye on it, buy new jeans and TOSS the rest, if one day your pants are getting a bit tight it’s a good way to know your pushing things… Furthermore get a scale if you don’t have one already.
Also Ephedra is not the only thermogenic out there, there are others…. AND it IS on the market but under the title of an “anti sleep aid” Good luck Adam!
Also I should have added, if you do a crash diet when you reach your target you cant just the next day jump into eating “heavy” foods again you have to ween your way back up over a few months; (IE the whole transition from starvation.) That’s why people roller coaster. Also if you want say 160 as your target, aim lower, say 150…. Then after you have come out of starvation you will settle out somewhere around 160 or so…. Then keep an eye on it, buy new jeans and TOSS the rest, if one day your pants are getting a bit tight it’s a good way to know your pushing things… Furthermore get a scale if you don’t have one already.
Also Ephedra is not the only thermogenic out there, there are others…. AND it IS on the market but under the title of an “anti sleep aid” Good luck Adam!
-
- Rank 5
- Posts: 393
- Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 3:28 pm
- Location: CYHM
Any thermogenic you would recommend ??Walker wrote:The thing is it’s a life style change, if you get to your weight you cant just go back to what you did to get there in the first place, it needs a total mind shift…..
Also I should have added, if you do a crash diet when you reach your target you cant just the next day jump into eating “heavy” foods again you have to ween your way back up over a few months; (IE the whole transition from starvation.) That’s why people roller coaster. Also if you want say 160 as your target, aim lower, say 150…. Then after you have come out of starvation you will settle out somewhere around 160 or so…. Then keep an eye on it, buy new jeans and TOSS the rest, if one day your pants are getting a bit tight it’s a good way to know your pushing things… Furthermore get a scale if you don’t have one already.
Also Ephedra is not the only thermogenic out there, there are others…. AND it IS on the market but under the title of an “anti sleep aid” Good luck Adam!
Very informative posts I should add ,Thank you
Adam
Eggs have lots of cholesterol and saturated fat so you don't need to stop eating them, just 3 a week. Egg whites have all the protein, so make an omelette with 3 eggs, use 2 yolks! Still tastes good.
"What's it doing now?"
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
Oh hells yeah!!... I'm down for a little off the gross weight for sure. I've been trying (not very hard) to loose weight ever since I started gaining weight, a little over 2 years ago... which, coincedentaly is how long I've been married... huh, wierd. 5'9" 174lbs before, and 190lbs now and I'd like to be at 170. Anyway's, my boss (wife) is convinced that eating according to the Canada food guide is the way to go, so that's what I'm gonna do, starting NOW!! I'll try to get some exersise, but as of now the only exersise I get is walking up and down the dock to the plane.... but you know, at low tide, that dock ramp is friggin steap!!
Here's hoping, and good luck to all that exept the challenge
MM
Here's hoping, and good luck to all that exept the challenge
MM
-
- Rank 11
- Posts: 4734
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:33 am
- Location: YYC 230 degree radial at about 10 DME
Remember that "weight" alone is a poor measuring device to register health. I'm 5 11" around 195# and in the best shape of my life. I could stand to loose 5-10# of fat but I want to replace each and every pound of it with muscle. So I'm 195 and my goal is 195.
xsbank speaks good advice. I don't know if Nayo is any better than Mayo, but the sandwich would die without it so no luck on number 3. No way no how. I dig the rest though.
xsbank speaks good advice. I don't know if Nayo is any better than Mayo, but the sandwich would die without it so no luck on number 3. No way no how. I dig the rest though.
-
- Rank 10
- Posts: 2119
- Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:04 am
- Location: Pilot Purgatory
Carbs in the morning, protien at night, water all day, nothing but water after 1900. Midnight snacks are to be replaced with a glass of h2o, you're not hungry, you're actually thirsty... your body just doesn't know the difference sometimes.
Run in the mornings, alternate days with wieghts.
Went from 5'8''- 190 (almost) to 170lbs, with the above. It's nothing special. Steak or chicken for dinner is cool. Olive oil in place of butter/margrine in many cases. Easy enough to do.
Doesn't take much.
I'm now 175ish, looking for 165-170, but more interested in toning muscle and losing fat than actual weight #s.
Remember #s mean dick all, it's all about how you feel. You can be 5'7 and 200lbs and be perfectly healthy. Lose the fat, build the muscle. Girls need to do this too, punishing yourselves on the treadmill for every calorie won't help if there's no muscle to keep it off. You'll just end up ballooning once you go back to eating regular food. I've seen too many friends fall into the typical girl trap of diet and "excerise". Cardio without weights (or vice versa) is pointless. For some reason chicks (and guys a bit too, I guess) get fed the line of diet, diet, diet... it's an endless circle, won't work. Lift something, run somewhere, it'll help. Trust m_p.
Run in the mornings, alternate days with wieghts.
Went from 5'8''- 190 (almost) to 170lbs, with the above. It's nothing special. Steak or chicken for dinner is cool. Olive oil in place of butter/margrine in many cases. Easy enough to do.
Doesn't take much.
I'm now 175ish, looking for 165-170, but more interested in toning muscle and losing fat than actual weight #s.
Remember #s mean dick all, it's all about how you feel. You can be 5'7 and 200lbs and be perfectly healthy. Lose the fat, build the muscle. Girls need to do this too, punishing yourselves on the treadmill for every calorie won't help if there's no muscle to keep it off. You'll just end up ballooning once you go back to eating regular food. I've seen too many friends fall into the typical girl trap of diet and "excerise". Cardio without weights (or vice versa) is pointless. For some reason chicks (and guys a bit too, I guess) get fed the line of diet, diet, diet... it's an endless circle, won't work. Lift something, run somewhere, it'll help. Trust m_p.
Dyslexics of the world... UNTIE!
-
- Rank 10
- Posts: 2850
- Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:05 pm
- Location: Toy Poodle Town, Manitoba
- Contact:
Hey Adam, been down that road too. What helped turn things around a fair bit was finding exercise that I not only enjoyed but was truly passionate about. Something that I had to do, rain, wind or shine. Something outdoors that gives your mind a bit of a high; gyms were never a fun place in my opinion. Just a bunch of sweaty hampsters running around on their wheels, not very motivating.Pilot_adam wrote:Well , Thanks everyone i guess we have had very good posts and advice on the subject , I am on a simple low calorie diet and would like to stick to it as I have bad experiences with crash diets in the past (The weight simply came back FAST !!!) .
I tired Thermogenic in the past and it worked great (Lost about 30 lbs in a month) but I can't get it no more because it has ephedra which is off the market ,but again the weight came back (WAS 220 went down to 185) and now I am at 250so frankly my life has been a roller coaster with weight lose and weight gain ...
I am going to make it a life style change,I will eat healthy and only when I am hungry and I will try to exercise 3 to 4 days a week.
Good luck every one
Adam
Kayaking, running, mountain biking, hiking are great escapes for the ol' noggin and they'll help your bod out too. Now its the winter, so you could take it indoors, get into squash, raquetball, indoor mountain climbing, stuff like that.
Anyway, good luck, and remember there isn't a one stop solution. Everyone's different in this regard.