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Thanks canpilot:

Aviation has been a great experience for me and I really never dreamed of being anywhere else.

I was so fortunate to have started in aviation when I did and seen it evolve from the radio range to RNS in the glass cockpit.

I can't even remember all the great teachers I had both male and female but to each of them goes the credit that allowed me to survive for all those years and never have to fill out an accident form.

I owe it to aviation to do my best to protect my colleauges both within the regulator and outside the regulator.

Remember the decent honest people who far, far outnumber the thugs in TC are victims just like us in industry.

Maybe...just maybe by standing up and showing the few in power who are corrupting our industry that some of us can not be intimidated some day everyone will say fu.k this I'm not taking this crap anymore.

Anyhow I am not dead yet...nor finished... :smt023
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Aw, shucks (toe stirring the sand) thanks for the kind word; I'm not sure if I like being called an old fart by someone else, but I'm glad I was lumped in with Cat nevertheless.
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I totally agree with . - TC needs a complete overhaul because right now it is a rudderless dictatorship.

I have started two aircraft maintenance and two airlines since 1988 and the amount of crap I have had to deal with was beyond belief.

I found it much easier to negotiate contracts and start international businesses by using the methods not accepted in Canada or the USA. The little white envelop with $$$$. In South East Asia, South America, Mexico, Eastern Europe, Africa it is a common and accepted practice. I met with the chief executive of the Deutsch Bank in Honk Kong and he advised me to never forget the little white envelop. He lost a $6 billion dollar container port deal for that one little slip up.

In SE Asia I was successful in negotiating an exclusive cargo contract, but it cost me and I was required to hire a close relative of the Minister to represent my company in their country. All of the government aviation approvals where done for me and ready when I left the country all in less than 30 days.

I can tell you that in Canada, it takes months and even years to get the same kind of service. we have to develop close personal friendships with our local TC reps. Take them out to lunch dozens of times - meet the wife and kids. To me that is the same way everyone else in the world works but they are much more upfront with the process.

So when are we all going to gather collectively and demand changes within TC?
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So when are we all going to gather collectively and demand changes within TC?

You are one of hundreds of Canadians who are hamstrung trying to run businesses in aviation and unless you are one of the good old boys you can die from old age trying to get anything approved.

I also would far rather that we could just pay these people off in cash and get things done, the problem in Canada is systemic rule by dictate with no regard for law or the needs of the client.

How it got this way I am at a loss to explain but the system is totally out of whack with the present power brokers, I often wonder what Preuss has on the Minister of Transport to allow him to run TC like he is Robert Mugawbe..

It would be nice to see an independent forensic audit of how Preuss and his gang manage to make such a mockery of the system.

Guranteed an open public examination of the inner workings of TCCA would see Preuss and a few of his buddies kicked out of their jobs real fast....


Hey someone should arrange for the news media to interview me, I have lots of documentation and I would love to be able to subpoena some TCCA people and put them in a real court under oath and ask them a whole lot of questions about the inner workings of TCCA, it is a real rotten to the core organazation.

I sure wonder what he has on the Transport Minister?? pictures maybe?
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It works for me - I have pictures of a certain CP passed out on a couch that I'm saving for my retirement - you know who you are!
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xsbank wrote:It works for me - I have pictures of a certain CP passed out on a couch that I'm saving for my retirement - you know who you are!
$#!T, how many of those photos are actually out there? :shock:
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carholme wrote:Ladies/Gentlemen;

. has been abused by a system which uses it's mandate to suit itself.
Many people on this forum who have worked as pilots and mechanics have never been in a posiiton of ownership of a company or in management positions which cause them to deal with TC. Many of you on the other hand have been in these positions and know the problems which exist.

TC may have many good people working for them but they are in posiitons to toe the management line. In our recent visit to the Bill C-6 committee hearings, we had many personal emails from inspectors telling us to go for it but that they could not speak openly.

As they are trying to shove Human Factors and SMS further down our throats, why are they not utilizing the system of openess described by these programs? They are valuable programs in and of themselves but when they are going to be used as a scapegoat for oversight by TC, question what you are being forced into.

We have, in the last few days gone directly to the top to get a definition from the people in charge of CARs, concerning TC's use of policy documents and information notes when addressing their interpretation of CARs. The answer we recieved was so protective of their system, with more implication than definite response and a complete shoulder slope.

So when you want to knock . off the block, just ask yourself what you have done today to better the system. If you truly think you know CARr, closely examine your next audit findings and rather than except them, challenge the system. Then you may have some idea of the frustrations of dealing with TC. If the findings are glaring deficiencies then you are not in touch with CARs. If you blindly accept the findings wondering where these guys are coming from, yet buckle under just to get them off your back, then you have the system you deserve. Don't blame . for that or try to crucify Widow with your new found knowledge. They seem to be of a minor category on this forum who will not give up until there is change.

Just read this forum and ask yourself why nobody is doing anything about the problems which are continuously raised here. ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Excellant post Carholme.. I've know . for more years than I would like to admit but have a lot of respect for the man for not only what he has done, but for what he is trying to do.
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I found it much easier to negotiate contracts and start international businesses by using the methods not accepted in Canada or the USA. The little white envelop with $$$$. In South East Asia, South America, Mexico, Eastern Europe, Africa it is a common and accepted practice. I met with the chief executive of the Deutsch Bank in Honk Kong and he advised me to never forget the little white envelop. He lost a $6 billion dollar container port deal for that one little slip up.
The cost of operating an aviation business in Canada has become so financially crippling that many operators cut corners wherever they can just to make a marginal profit on their investment and hours of work.

As TCCA slides further and further away from hands on oversite of the industry and turns over the oversite to the operators with new methods such as SMS it is a Godsend to operators who spent time and effort in the process of evading TCCA's catching them in non compliance.

Now the shoddy operations will be in a better position to pencil whip their compliance to the regulations and as long as TC reads what looks to be good stuff nothing will happen until the next accident.

I have given much thought to where we are in aviation here in Canada and what is needed to return to where we should be.

To put it simply two things must happen before aviation in Canada gets back to fair and efficient regulation.

First there has to be a Federal open transparent inquiry into the way TCCA is managed starting in the office of the DGCA, and the Prime Minister must be forced to explain why his Minister of Transport has been blind to the moral corruption within TCCA and its affect on aviation in Canada.

Second there has to be funding put back into rebuilding the Regulator to a position where the Regulator polices the industry in a hands on manner and the Regulations and TCCA policies are enforced in a fair and consistent manner in all Regions, rather than the scatter gun manner in which TC interprets the rules at present.

This will mean that the Federal Government will need to put probably billions into rebuilding the Regulator back into the efficient oversite body it must be. One of the most critical issues is the hiring of people with experience in the industry who can be relied upon to do their jobs according to the Regulations and not at the whim of Regional Managers such as we have here in the Pacific Region, if nothing else we deserve people with integrity who are deserving of the position of trust that their office demands, rather than someone like the present RDCA who if he were in the private sector would be fired for just cause.

The billions spent will be money saved when one examines the cost of doing business in aviation in Canada as it now is.

And of course the public will have a better expectation of safety actually being served, rather than the Alice in Wonderland scenario we now have under the present structure of TCCA.
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I have to agree with ., wholeheartedly.
Sometimes I don't like some of his rhetoric because it tends to detract from the message. However, I do clearly understand his frustration.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that his 'accusations' are entirey true, simply because I went down the same path.
I have the correspondence to prove total dishonesty at the top of TC, in
the face of evidence submitted to Preuss himself.
We now live in a system (Canada) where the primary focus of senior civil servants is self-preservation. Abusers of the system are protected by an army of lawyers and it is virtually impossible to penetrate the wall. So, protected 'legally' from justice, certain power-abusers flourish. They are not even called to account by the Civil Service Code, which is the model for how they should behave, and be held accountable.

Many of these people are criticized by their fellow employees, who know the wrong of the matter, but feel helpless to act because of disciplinary, (or underhanded retaliation.) In refusing to admit a fault, top Civil managers deprive ordinary Canadians of their civil rights and additionally, bring themselves into contempt and lack of respect. Just imagine if Preuss said to .: "Look, you were right, here is $xxxxxx." It would prove that he can run his department with an ethical hand. Think of the respect he would gain!
A recent example of this is the TV report that Canadian banks are getting tired of reporting suspicious fund transfers that may back terrorism. This is to the tune of $250 million dollars, yet nothing has been done by the Government to block these transfers, or, prosecute the perpetrators.

Certainly, TCCA is backing out of its responsibilites in all regards. It has become such that the 'police' are sitting in the donut shop, expecting the bad guys to voluntarily turn themselves in. TC is abandoning its accountability. If something goes wrong, it will never be their fault, in any way whatsoever. Does Joe Public understand this?

I could go on for hours, but basically, all the evidence is there to support ..

Less than a year ago, TC was listed as a Government agency that really needed an Ombudsman. It has not happened and until something is done, these senior government managers will continue to sit back, ignore their sworn responsibilities and laugh at the milling herd of aviation inhabitants, as if they are a herd of prey, happy so long as it is someone else who gets picked off. If we could find our collective asses, maybe we could do something. Certainly, I would put money into an association that would pursue some kind of oversight of TC (Actually, I already do....I pay taxes in a "Democracry", but it has been demonstrated to me that I do not have any rights.)
I am sure that much of .'s frustration comes from the aviation community's unwillingness to stand up for its democratic rights.
Ugh!!!
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Just imagine if Preuss said to .: "Look, you were right, here is $xxxxxx." It would prove that he can run his department with an ethical hand.
If only the public knew what really goes on in TCCA under Preuss's management, there is documentation within TC that shows clearly and beyond doubt that two TCCA inspectors were denied their civil rights under the leadership of and condoned by the RDCA in the Pacific Region.

What happened is shocking and sickening to have happened in any so called democratic country as Canada claims to be, several top people in TCCA falsified, changed and with held documents so as to punish two of their own inspectors who it would seem were not part of the good old boys club that Preuss runs.

Not only was this hidden from the public but the RDCA still holds his job, collects his pay and to really rub salt into the wounds of the taxpayers he still gets his " Bonuses " .

Get me in court and I will subpoena some TCCA employees and we can put them under oath so they will testify truthfully.
I have to agree with ., wholeheartedly.
Sometimes I don't like some of his rhetoric because it tends to detract from the message. However, I do clearly understand his frustration.
I'm sorry snap, but sometimes I am just unable to express myself in a polite PC manner and revert to street language that everyone here understands.

How can any government protect scum like these people by destroying the very people they are sworn to protect?

I'm sorry I referred to Preuss and Nowzek as coc..... not only was it impolite on an internet forum it does distract from my message....and demeans coc.... as well.
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It's OK, ..
Sometimes calling a spade a spade is perfectly righteous.
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Guy - are you really serious about taking this before the courts of Canada? My oldest is a lawyer in Vancouver it has been his specialty to help those people most unable to so themselves.

He takes on public defender and faint hope cases. If you are really and truly are serious about this - gather every bit of 'provable' evidence that you have. Take it to . and then we can sit down to go over it all.

If even half of what you all say is true, I also know a good reporter who loves these kinds of things. These so called bureaucrats who think they are above the law just might find it a bit hotter when they go to work - after certain 'irrefutable and substantiated' facts appear on the front page of the paper. Bad publicity is something every bureaucrat hates but understands that justice will be served no matter who you are.
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I would go to my grave content if I could somehow expose these people so it will force Harper and his Minister of Transport to actually do what we elected them to do.

Govern this country in the best interests of those who voted them into Government and not in the best interests of people like Merlin Preuss and his minions who we did not vote into office.
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