Why don't you check for water in the fuel? Isn't that what the quick-drain and shotglass is for?MrWings wrote:
Is quality control BS when my engine quits at 700' because of water in the fuel that you didn't bother to check? As a pilot, my life is worth the few cents more and I will stick with the major brands BECAUSE of their rigorous scrutiny. You pay for what you get.
Buying AvGas
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Re: Buying AvGas
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Re: Buying AvGas
MrWings said:
Actually, where I worked was a major dealer, and I've never heard it called disreputable. Secondly, I would never say that proper quality control in general is BS. We did water and visual contamination tests every day, every time a truck was bulked, and every time we first drew fuel from a truck. We also did SG tests daily, and a more extensive set of tests weekly + monthly. All of this is above and beyond what the guys at the fuel farm did before we even bulked our trucks. As a pilot, I wouldn't hesitate at all to purchase fuel from where I formerly worked.
Esso always had slightly stricter rules though. Their training program is more comprehensive and regimented, which I actually thought quite highly of. However, they would make guys do fuel tests seemingly ad infinitum and as mentioned above they apparently won't fuel into drums or jerry cans. Overall, I'm not trying to slag esso for this, or slagging other brands for being "unsafe", I'm just saying that the OP might have more luck buying avgas at a non-esso outlet where the rules are a little more flexible.
Esso, Shell and other reputable dealers don't have tougher rules. They are just follwing the law. It is illegal in Canada to use lead in vehicles.
Is quality control BS when my engine quits at 700' because of water in the fuel that you didn't bother to check? As a pilot, my life is worth the few cents more and I will stick with the major brands BECAUSE of their rigorous scrutiny. You pay for what you get.
Actually, where I worked was a major dealer, and I've never heard it called disreputable. Secondly, I would never say that proper quality control in general is BS. We did water and visual contamination tests every day, every time a truck was bulked, and every time we first drew fuel from a truck. We also did SG tests daily, and a more extensive set of tests weekly + monthly. All of this is above and beyond what the guys at the fuel farm did before we even bulked our trucks. As a pilot, I wouldn't hesitate at all to purchase fuel from where I formerly worked.
Esso always had slightly stricter rules though. Their training program is more comprehensive and regimented, which I actually thought quite highly of. However, they would make guys do fuel tests seemingly ad infinitum and as mentioned above they apparently won't fuel into drums or jerry cans. Overall, I'm not trying to slag esso for this, or slagging other brands for being "unsafe", I'm just saying that the OP might have more luck buying avgas at a non-esso outlet where the rules are a little more flexible.
Re: Buying AvGas
Well, it does sound like you had to endure a lot of quality control BS, too. 
It is good that you realize the importance of these procedure. And yes, if those things are done like they should, the fuel at your independant should be perfectly fine.
Your comment made it sound like you were slagging QC in general. But that obviously wasn't the case.
It is good that you realize the importance of these procedure. And yes, if those things are done like they should, the fuel at your independant should be perfectly fine.
Your comment made it sound like you were slagging QC in general. But that obviously wasn't the case.
