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There is no "statute of limitations" for aviation regulations. The geniuses at Transports can let 10 or 50 years go by before laying a charge.
Transport policy (which they may or may not decide to follow, depending upon how much they detest you) is to not lay a charge with a financial penalty (ie a fine) after one year.
So what Transport does after a long time, is to lay a charge and revoke your licence instead. Transport argues (get this) that there is no financial penalty involved with a commercial pilot losing his licence, for periods of time measured in YEARS.
However, the devil is in the details, and that's where you'll find me, poking around. It is a fact that the CARs went into effect in 1996. Before then, the old ANO's and Air Regs (remember them?) were in effect.
I would argue in court that for any alleged offense prior to 1996, the ANO's and Air Regs (not the CARs) would apply. Transport would have great difficulty laying a charge against you under the old ANO's and Air Regs, but if you piss them off enough, they just might give it a try. They don't have anything else to do all day long.
Remember though, I'm a moron.
Transport policy (which they may or may not decide to follow, depending upon how much they detest you) is to not lay a charge with a financial penalty (ie a fine) after one year.
So what Transport does after a long time, is to lay a charge and revoke your licence instead. Transport argues (get this) that there is no financial penalty involved with a commercial pilot losing his licence, for periods of time measured in YEARS.
However, the devil is in the details, and that's where you'll find me, poking around. It is a fact that the CARs went into effect in 1996. Before then, the old ANO's and Air Regs (remember them?) were in effect.
I would argue in court that for any alleged offense prior to 1996, the ANO's and Air Regs (not the CARs) would apply. Transport would have great difficulty laying a charge against you under the old ANO's and Air Regs, but if you piss them off enough, they just might give it a try. They don't have anything else to do all day long.
Remember though, I'm a moron.
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Griffon- Nope, no cameras. I ain't that kind of guy. It is a lot easier to plead ignorance when there is NO self created evidence. Usually we are are own worst enemy.
Note: Purely hypothetically of course, one may have done a significant amount of step taxiing after the ker-plunk.
Be well, do good work, and keep the faith.
Note: Purely hypothetically of course, one may have done a significant amount of step taxiing after the ker-plunk.
Be well, do good work, and keep the faith.
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Leaky.... Sorry, your handle coupled with that story made me gag a bit.... 
Human waste and airplanes don't mix, I reckon... ferinstance - there's nothing quite like having to unplug a full waste pipe in the ceiling of a cargo pit of a big bird, and taking the shower that comes as you find that plug... major yuk!
I can't imagine even dreaming about plunking down into those percolating ponds.... Yeeeesh!
Hypothetically though... I'm sure the folks back at the docks would have been grateful for that step taxiing...
Human waste and airplanes don't mix, I reckon... ferinstance - there's nothing quite like having to unplug a full waste pipe in the ceiling of a cargo pit of a big bird, and taking the shower that comes as you find that plug... major yuk!
I can't imagine even dreaming about plunking down into those percolating ponds.... Yeeeesh!
Hypothetically though... I'm sure the folks back at the docks would have been grateful for that step taxiing...
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Good morning moron: 
You are most likely correct that prior to Jan 01/97 CAR's would not be enforcable, however you are also correct that TC can and does lay charges arbitrarily without regard to the wording of CAR's.
It is also our missfortune that generally their decisions to take action against any individual will be backed up by those above them right to the Director General Civil Aviation.
It is also our missfortune that appealing for relief from their decisions no matter how vexatious, will be useless once they decide to protect their own.
Transport Canada as structured and operated under the existing legeslation is capable of being a kangaroo court conducted by morally corrupt self serving bureaucrats who are Judge, Jury and executioner answerable only to those above them..who protect them...
So should you decide to make a stand against what you preceive to be or what is clearly abuse of power you can be hammered into the ground by this government body that needs a good housekeeping job done by sweeping out some of the filth.
There, that is my take on it, did I make it clear enough?
P.S.
We have a protection weapon to use against unfair or deliberate actions by TC.
It is the laying of an harassment complaint against the individual whom you feel is causing you uncalled for grief.
That puts the onus back on the person whom you are being harassed by.
Cat Driver:
You are most likely correct that prior to Jan 01/97 CAR's would not be enforcable, however you are also correct that TC can and does lay charges arbitrarily without regard to the wording of CAR's.
It is also our missfortune that generally their decisions to take action against any individual will be backed up by those above them right to the Director General Civil Aviation.
It is also our missfortune that appealing for relief from their decisions no matter how vexatious, will be useless once they decide to protect their own.
Transport Canada as structured and operated under the existing legeslation is capable of being a kangaroo court conducted by morally corrupt self serving bureaucrats who are Judge, Jury and executioner answerable only to those above them..who protect them...
So should you decide to make a stand against what you preceive to be or what is clearly abuse of power you can be hammered into the ground by this government body that needs a good housekeeping job done by sweeping out some of the filth.
There, that is my take on it, did I make it clear enough?
P.S.
We have a protection weapon to use against unfair or deliberate actions by TC.
It is the laying of an harassment complaint against the individual whom you feel is causing you uncalled for grief.
That puts the onus back on the person whom you are being harassed by.
Cat Driver:
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Griffon:
O.K. dammit...
I will write a story, I have sort of being leaving the story telling up to the Duke but WTF there is probably room for both of us.....
At the moment I am writing an article for Todays Pilot in England, but I can work on two at once...
How about I write about how I fu..ed up a fifty year clean record of having never filled out an airplane damage report?
Hell if I'm gonna write stories I may as well start out by doing something that may give pilots some reason to contemplate the consequences of compromizing your normal proceedures to get the job done.
I'll do it in MS word first then get someone to show me how to post it here.
I need spell check, wouldn't want anyone to think I'm illiterate.
Cat
O.K. dammit...
I will write a story, I have sort of being leaving the story telling up to the Duke but WTF there is probably room for both of us.....
At the moment I am writing an article for Todays Pilot in England, but I can work on two at once...
How about I write about how I fu..ed up a fifty year clean record of having never filled out an airplane damage report?
Hell if I'm gonna write stories I may as well start out by doing something that may give pilots some reason to contemplate the consequences of compromizing your normal proceedures to get the job done.
I'll do it in MS word first then get someone to show me how to post it here.
I need spell check, wouldn't want anyone to think I'm illiterate.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Good on ya Cat!
To put it here from MSWord all you have to do is: highlight all of it, once you like it, right click on that highlighted text and select copy... then come to the post box here, right click again and select paste. Piece of cake.
I look forward to the reading... (as do many others I'm sure!)
Some of you guys have expeienced a lot of stuff that very few people will ever come close to... and a few will... you have a lot to offer in tales of those experiences... for both the larger, and smaller groups. You certainly don't owe it to us, by any means, but what a fantastic gift it is when it's shared! ...and what better way there is to leave a mark on this planet, I don't know....
Cheers, and happy writing.
To put it here from MSWord all you have to do is: highlight all of it, once you like it, right click on that highlighted text and select copy... then come to the post box here, right click again and select paste. Piece of cake.
I look forward to the reading... (as do many others I'm sure!)
Some of you guys have expeienced a lot of stuff that very few people will ever come close to... and a few will... you have a lot to offer in tales of those experiences... for both the larger, and smaller groups. You certainly don't owe it to us, by any means, but what a fantastic gift it is when it's shared! ...and what better way there is to leave a mark on this planet, I don't know....
Cheers, and happy writing.
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Griffon :
With all due respect.
I do owe it to the industry to share what little I have l have learned from others and from doing it.
To not share it would in my mind be selfish and a denial of everything a professional pilot lives by.
So screw it I'll start writing true experiences with all the warts and failures on my part laid out clearly, so hopefully some day someone will live... by reflecting for a moment and doing the safe thing. I've been more lucky than skilled sometimes to have survived.
Cat Driver:
With all due respect.
I do owe it to the industry to share what little I have l have learned from others and from doing it.
To not share it would in my mind be selfish and a denial of everything a professional pilot lives by.
So screw it I'll start writing true experiences with all the warts and failures on my part laid out clearly, so hopefully some day someone will live... by reflecting for a moment and doing the safe thing. I've been more lucky than skilled sometimes to have survived.
Cat Driver:
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Careful Griffon :
Don't get to off the wall here becauce this forum has people who abhore me and my ideas about Aviation.
We have one poster here who wants me banned and states unequivically that I am the biggest disgrace to aviation in Canada....and that I insite an anti-establishment mentality in the minds of the younger among us.
So you be careful Griffon, you don't want to be an outcast like me do you?
Cat Driver:
Don't get to off the wall here becauce this forum has people who abhore me and my ideas about Aviation.
We have one poster here who wants me banned and states unequivically that I am the biggest disgrace to aviation in Canada....and that I insite an anti-establishment mentality in the minds of the younger among us.
So you be careful Griffon, you don't want to be an outcast like me do you?
Cat Driver:
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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LOL! Off the wall? let's see now... my favourite airplane is one everyone else runs away from...., I regularly get into hot water for, ummm... not being careful enough with what I say..., I call a pointed steel shovel a spade, and I speak my mind... am I worried about being an outcast for openly appreciating a man who might share some of those attributes?? I don't think so. 
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ndb :
I don't know for sure who it is, TC has some rather serious problems in some departments and when someone shines some light on them they go into their run under the rocks mode.
Then they post anonymously from under their rocks on these forums.
You in your wildest drug induced imagination don't think the average grunt that works in aviation and knows the score would try and white wash the way TC really works do you?
If these people had any credibility they would argue their issues from the same position that I do, by clearly identifing who they are.
I at least will in the end be judged by the facts, not someone sniping from hiding.
So f..k em..
BY THE WAY:
The internet has given us the most powerful tool on earth to communicate.
Historically those who should be working for us have been able to hide their actions by the very fact that their victims are isolated and unable to speak out.
I made a clear well thought out decision to put my life time in aviation working to the best of my ability to be the best I could, up against bullies working for the regulator, protected by their superiors.
There are many in TC who wish to see me sucessful in ridding our industry of scum that don't have the guts to be up front decent people, and missuse their authority.
Even if I fail to improve our lot at least I will have risked everything to try.
And the beauty of it is they cannot try and damage a career that is about finished anyhow..
Cat Driver:
I don't know for sure who it is, TC has some rather serious problems in some departments and when someone shines some light on them they go into their run under the rocks mode.
Then they post anonymously from under their rocks on these forums.
You in your wildest drug induced imagination don't think the average grunt that works in aviation and knows the score would try and white wash the way TC really works do you?
If these people had any credibility they would argue their issues from the same position that I do, by clearly identifing who they are.
I at least will in the end be judged by the facts, not someone sniping from hiding.
So f..k em..
BY THE WAY:
The internet has given us the most powerful tool on earth to communicate.
Historically those who should be working for us have been able to hide their actions by the very fact that their victims are isolated and unable to speak out.
I made a clear well thought out decision to put my life time in aviation working to the best of my ability to be the best I could, up against bullies working for the regulator, protected by their superiors.
There are many in TC who wish to see me sucessful in ridding our industry of scum that don't have the guts to be up front decent people, and missuse their authority.
Even if I fail to improve our lot at least I will have risked everything to try.
And the beauty of it is they cannot try and damage a career that is about finished anyhow..
Cat Driver:
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Leaky Float, I don't know what you were thinking landing in there, that is just, well, there's now word to describe my disgust. Not because you shouldn't be landing in there, but because of what you were landing in....
ndb,
I don't know how this applies to the CARs and what came before, but for whatever act you commited in the past, you can only apply the laws that were in effect at the time. In any court case involving a Canadian Act, any judge should immediately throw out anycase charging someone with something that was not illegal at the time commited. Again, since the CARs themselves are not an act, and I don't think the ANOs counted as an act, I don't know how they are viewed. I would suspect, since the CARs were not referenced in the Aeronautics Act previous to 1996, they could not use the CARs to charge you with anything prior to their enactment.
Cat,
Sorry to stick this in here. I'm all for continuing your story telling.
ndb,
I don't know how this applies to the CARs and what came before, but for whatever act you commited in the past, you can only apply the laws that were in effect at the time. In any court case involving a Canadian Act, any judge should immediately throw out anycase charging someone with something that was not illegal at the time commited. Again, since the CARs themselves are not an act, and I don't think the ANOs counted as an act, I don't know how they are viewed. I would suspect, since the CARs were not referenced in the Aeronautics Act previous to 1996, they could not use the CARs to charge you with anything prior to their enactment.
Cat,
Sorry to stick this in here. I'm all for continuing your story telling.
Most ice on a Caravan: 4 inches (cargo pod)
Most hated freight in a Hawker-748: It's a tie between fire hydrants and rebar.
Heaviest piece of freight in a Hawker-748: 5000+ lb Generator
Worst destination in a Hawker: Bearskin Co-op "produce, produce"
Worst day flying this year: Cold cup of coffee
Most hated freight in a Hawker-748: It's a tie between fire hydrants and rebar.
Heaviest piece of freight in a Hawker-748: 5000+ lb Generator
Worst destination in a Hawker: Bearskin Co-op "produce, produce"
Worst day flying this year: Cold cup of coffee
If you're not bored, you're scared....... I'd rather be bored.
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Oldtimer,
It has been an awful long time since I heard anyone mention the Husky Fairchild aircraft. I actually got to do a couple of airevacs in one that was owned by North Coast Air out of Prince Rupert B.C. way back in the early eighties. If memory serves me their were only 12 built and the last one left flying was in PR. I seem to remember being told that the prop spun backwards to the American built aircraft making a static start interesting if you weren't careful. Could be that was a load of bunk to, you know how pilots lie.
It has been an awful long time since I heard anyone mention the Husky Fairchild aircraft. I actually got to do a couple of airevacs in one that was owned by North Coast Air out of Prince Rupert B.C. way back in the early eighties. If memory serves me their were only 12 built and the last one left flying was in PR. I seem to remember being told that the prop spun backwards to the American built aircraft making a static start interesting if you weren't careful. Could be that was a load of bunk to, you know how pilots lie.
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Hi Bandaid... I have no idea what a Husky Fairchild is, nor any other weed-whacker style aircraft -- especially if it looks anything like an ugly boat style fuselage slung on a pod underneath a pair of wings --, but I understand all British engines do turn backwards... Would that fit? Has that animal got a Brit Engine?
--, but I understand all British engines do turn backwards... Would that fit? Has that animal got a Brit Engine?Griffon,
The Husky Fairchild, if I have my history right, was built in Toronto around the same time as the Beaver was being first produced. This was Fairchilds answer to a very popular aircraft. Yes if did have an english engine and, unlike the Beaver, the pistons were hidden behind the cowling. It had a big sliding cargo door on the left side of the aircraft (maybe both sides, I can't remember) and another big cargo door at the rear. You could pull the aircraft backwards onto the beach and unload it. I seem to remember being told that it was more fuel efficient and a bit faster than the Beaver, but I may have that backwards, it has been a few years.
I forgot to add that you should be able to find pictures of it on airliners.net
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search
The Husky Fairchild, if I have my history right, was built in Toronto around the same time as the Beaver was being first produced. This was Fairchilds answer to a very popular aircraft. Yes if did have an english engine and, unlike the Beaver, the pistons were hidden behind the cowling. It had a big sliding cargo door on the left side of the aircraft (maybe both sides, I can't remember) and another big cargo door at the rear. You could pull the aircraft backwards onto the beach and unload it. I seem to remember being told that it was more fuel efficient and a bit faster than the Beaver, but I may have that backwards, it has been a few years.
I forgot to add that you should be able to find pictures of it on airliners.net
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search
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