You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

Jerricho wrote:

invertedattitude wrote:and as we all know taxes go to the most needy and deserving projects and people...

See, now that's got humor. Who did you get to help you with that? Tesox?

Hey it's an east coast thing.

If any part of the country is more jaded towards the federal government, it's gotta be Atlantic Canada.... not enough welfare cheques to go around, I think with the amount of taxes I paid last year I should get a card with the picture of the welfare family I supported last year...

IA, youre statement regarding welfare families is not quite clear. Are you saying you dont agree with paying taxes to support the people less fortunate than yourself? Do you take issue with your wage being docked for people who you deem unworthy of receiving your money? Come on, your a rich ATC...you dont mind pitching in $50 for a leather jacket for some spoiled co-worker, but damn that poor single mom of 4 kids, whose husband beat her for the past 6 years and finally blew his head off, leaving her with a massive debt load and no job experience....what are you really saying?

I don't consider myself rich and I still don't see why I should give $50 (or feel any pressure to) for memebers are staff that are retiring. If there's a collection and I like/respect them, then I'll consider a contribution. Many of the people I work with are miserable, ignorant and lack basic social graces - why should I give them $50.

Then again, I'd give more if some others would leave now!!!!

I tell you...its all about money. Really. People in the workplace have gradually become so complacent about their relationships with one another, that they think its made up for by pitching in a few bucks for a lame party, that no one really cares about anyway. How about this...that same employee over the last 35 years probably got married, had a kid or two, probably achieved some major milestones personally, perhaps got admitted to the hospital once or twice...maybe lost a loved one, etc. Wheres the compassion for these situations? Where were the collections for some flowers, or a card that was signed by everyone showing some compassion....Where is the show of support for these experiences...where? They dont exist for the most part because we are slowly becoming the most selfish, self centred culture in the history of civilization. You honestly think that someone who has worked in a culture like we do will give a shit about his $500 dollar NavCanada jacket? Nope. Hes going to ebay it for a few less dollars and say good riddance to the career he left behind, the jack asses that didnt really care.

Now if we worked in a culture of support, on a sincere, continuous basis...I would pitch $50 no problem...

Bah, you dirty, tree hugging pansy.

Why don't you go an hump a whale or something.





It's all about me.

Jerricho wrote:Bah, you dirty, tree hugging pansy.

Why don't you go an hump a whale or something.

Because your woman wore me out last time!

tesox2 wrote:IA, youre statement regarding welfare families is not quite clear. Are you saying you dont agree with paying taxes to support the people less fortunate than yourself? Do you take issue with your wage being docked for people who you deem unworthy of receiving your money? Come on, your a rich ATC...you dont mind pitching in $50 for a leather jacket for some spoiled co-worker, but damn that poor single mom of 4 kids, whose husband beat her for the past 6 years and finally blew his head off, leaving her with a massive debt load and no job experience....what are you really saying?

I fully support my taxes going to Welfare families in need.

However I personally have met my fair share of people on welfare who personally acknowledge their own abuse of the system... "Why should I get a job when I don't have to?"

And no I don't mind pitching in $50, I make $50 in 30 minutes on an overtime... why is this even a conversation. Give buddy the $50 and tell him to go f#@$ himself if you like, why don't you as you say, say it how it is if you've got the guts, sorry "nutz" to? Give your $50 then tell buddy how you really feel.

My whole point is you spend a lot more money on a helluva lot more useless things than $50 for a retirement gift.

I guess you work with an entire lot of crabby a$$holes. Personally at my centre I respect and really get along with at least 90% of the guys with 30 years or over.

I'm sorry your stuck working around what sounds like a completely posioned work environment, but not all of us are.

There you go my trout, now that sounds like an opinion!!

How about collecting $50.00 for a guy that wants to retire and continuing to do so until he says he has enough, I go first.

So doing the math on this $50 per person thingy...

There are like 2-300 controllers per ACC? And the contribution is from everyone in the centre?

That would be one heck of a $10,000 endangered-species-skin leather coat.

Me for sure and I imagine Tesox too, has much less than 300 controllers

invertedattitude wrote:Me for sure and I imagine Tesox too, has much less than 300 controllers

YIKES...just the thought of that is frightening

Thats a lot of assholes

You guys have to scrape money together so some poor smuck can "feel" grateful to work with such a caring company upon his retirement?

WTF!

Geez, what happened to the thread about good companies to work for.......

FamilyGuy wrote:You guys have to scrape money together so some poor smuck can "feel" grateful to work with such a caring company upon his retirement?

WTF!

Geez, what happened to the thread about good companies to work for.......

No one says its not a good spot to work...geez guys dont blow this whole thing out of proportion here. There are a few asses around for sure...but there are more good people. I stated from the start that I didnt agree with the standard for all retirees. If I respect that controller, I feel like contributing to that controllers retirement gift. Thats it, thats all.

tesox2 wrote:Just wondering what other centres take is on collecting $50 from each union member for retirees. Is it a common practice across the country or is this something elective at our centre?

People are retiring from NC with this extra something from the union....?????? Like everything else they get isnt enough....

I personally have an issue with it....

Whats your take?

Why don't you explain to them that the $50 goes not only towards a party for retirees, but also goes to a collection for the cleaning staff that is given to them before Christmas?
This is because it was felt that having donation envelopes in plain sight of Cleaners and other staff was not the correct thing to do.

Yes BC you are correct. The $50 is for retirees and cleaning staff, and the man in charge of it is a great person for doing it...there is someone I have utmost respect for!

I often wonder how the cleaning staff stops from telling some people off.

Listening to the Prima Donnas that are IFR controllers all around them, and making the money they make doing cleaning chores, must be rather irritating.

I dunno.


Bigskycanada, how do you stop yourself from telling some people off?