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O.K. I'm curious about this.

If one of my friends from the RCMP are visiting me and I asked him/her to taser me so I could come here on Avcanada and tell everyone it was no big deal what are the chances he/she would?

I would like to know how Wilbur got someone to taser him just for the experience.
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Cat Driver wrote:I would like to know how Wilbur got someone to taser him just for the experience.
Shhhh! You'll blow his cover.
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Hey anyone can make their own taser from a disposable camera. Google "home made taser" and you will find short videos on how to mod a disposable. It is easy. Maybe soon it wont necessarily be the Police you are scared of. Fox news:"Kids with deadly cameras!!!!"
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Okay... So here I write again... I agree with the "creeping" of Taser use... 110% support it! Yes, you get the odd instance such as the horrible case at the airport, but the unfortunate part is that nobody is perfect. They screwed up. CPL, if you can ever have a complete week at work... just a week, where your performance is perfect, I'd be amazed. Some screw ups are big and some a small, that one was big.
Unfortunately, I feel that police should never be confronted aggresively, no matter what the circumstance. When I worked in the security field, you'd be amazed at how many "ten feet tall and bulletproof" people I came across. The police don't get paid to be bruised up by some drunken fool, kicking and punching. They shouldn't have to try to tackle the guy. They don't get paid enough to risk it. Warn the person verbally, if that fails, use the Taser. I think that people have gotten a wee bit out of control these days. Police officers should be able to pull up to a scene without any doubt of their own safety. They don't get paid enough to square off with every fool out there that doesn't want to go to jail. I am so tired of hearing about this bullsh!t in the news.
The one advantage is that Global/CP/CBC and the rest of those that use the shock and awe type of media are finally leaving aviation alone.

For all those out there that disagree, do so respectfully, I don't call you an idiot when you post absolute horse sh!t on here, so don't message me saying anything of the sorts. Post an intelligent reply on the public forum, we're all entitled to our own beliefs and this is mine.
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I've been tasered in training. The agency I work for has them, and I volunteered to be on the recievinig end as part of the training (also have for OC, CS, and stun grenades). I didn't say they were painless. The effect is short lived, albeit intense, and that is why it's no big deal. It doesn't require you to be superman to suck up 5 or 10 seconds of pain and discomfort; just change into your big girl panties first.

As for Dosanj and his comments, nothing more than another politician trying to score points. His government, who I worked for, did approve the taser for use in BC. Its placement on the force options wheel (continuum) was crystal clear and if "usage creep" has occurred that he never intended to allow, then he's stupid for allowing his SG to sign off on a policy that was poorly written and didn't reflect his intent. Law enforcement agencies don't make their own rules, the SG's ministry does in BC. If he only wanted tasers used as a last resort to lethal force, then his policy should have said that.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillian_Guess
Seems that you cannot romance the accused,
But if you are the Attorney General you can have diner with the accused and still keep your job before you become the unelected Premier of B.C.
Seems we are scared of holding everyone to the same high standards .For fear of what ???I used to think it was being accused of being called the R word ,Perhaps having the same name as the Gangsters involved in a drug war has some advantage :shock:
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free speech

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Act like an intelligent human being, and odds are, you won't get tazered!!!
Hmm, personally, I like to control which hands I play

Re: Usage Creep.. Wilbur, It is clear that you are either a muni, or a member. I can't think of too many agencies in Canada that have access to illegal tasers and stun grenades so it is clear that you have an inherent bias.

Let's just look at it this way.. it would have been fine had some of your buddies not screwed the pooch in Vancouver. Ever heard the saying one bad apple yada yada?

Coming from a set that would allow cardboard alter-egos to do the meat and potatoes work, this conundrum does not surprise me in the least.

If you are an RCMP officer and you have been tasered I would have to say that your data is skewed. You are probably in decent health and physical shape and are not representative of those you would taser. Not to mention you were not afflicted with 'excited delerium' at the time due to the lack of external stressors. So your baseline is all screwed up, I put more stock in anecdotal reports of those who have been tasered 'in it's element' so to speak.

Anyways keep carrying that flag Wilbur. I personally think that the use of tasers as a compliance device goes against the spirit of the charter, and the fact that you as either a RCMP officer or a proxy advocating its creeping use is sad and pathetic.
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You all are surely familiar with these idiot radio hosts and there stupid bravado??? My favorite local station has a guy named "Tard" who they always put up to doing stupid things, like standing on a street corner naked until he gets arrested. Stuff like that. Anyway one day they decided to Taser the dude, then use mace on his face, and then try pepper spray. All in the interests of journalism you know. And being as this is manly America, and not little girl, oh never mind. Anyway you can buy all that stuff here. So the test goes down, and "Tard" swears that Pepper spray is the worst, by far. The tazer they actually did three times, and while it put him RIGHT on the ground, he said it wasn't too bad. Pepper spray had him screaming till they cut to a commercial.
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Maybe they should start using Paintball Guns with the Pepperammo?

http://www.pepperammo.com/paintball-pepperammo.php
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