New License Applications Available

[CD]

It would be interesting to see what they will do if they find someone without the new license after the due date, for sure it is a lot easier to penalize someone for that than go out and police the operators who operate outside of the rules.

Looks like you won't have to worry about that if the cuts go through now that the election is over (unless they take Hedley's advice and start charge an obscene amount of money for the documents ):

Harper non-committal on deficit, Ottawa looks to deep cuts

17 Oct, 6:22 PM

OTTAWA - The federal government is looking at a menu of cuts including a public service hiring freeze and delaying current and election platform spending plans to avoid falling into deficit, sources familiar with finance options say.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty have been dismissing out of hand any possibility of running a deficit for months, including during the just completed federal election campaign.

But as the reality of the financial crisis and economic slowdown sinks in, Harper has become less categorical and on Friday for the first time explicitly did not rule out a deficit.

...

Possible spending cuts would include delaying until the end of the mandate campaign promises such as the two-cent a litre diesel fuel tax reduction, which would save the government $600 million a year.

Others include accelerating the current spending review program by increasing the number of departments affected and looking for outright savings rather than re-allocation of funds. Ottawa could also look at all current programs that have escalating costs and delaying or slowing future increases.

Full story here...

[Carrier]

AUGER9, thanks for the link to the dimensions. I went up and down the general description and the parts of the booklet without finding it. That is where I expected the dimensions to be given, not hidden away in the FAQs.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

The licenses I have now are 64 X 98 mm.

88 X 125 is a big difference...I wonder how thick the thing will be with this many pages and the supermarket type stickem ins?

Labels must be attached into the booklet in the appropriate section. Labels are valid only when the booklet number printed on the label matches the booklet inventory number found on page 24 of the holder’s booklet.

[E-Flyer]

So what happens if we don't get our application in by the due date of 2009 ? will our current licenses not be valid any more and there won't be anyway to get around it?...

[Panama Jack]

I have a question.

My medical has just expired again and I haven't had a chance to renew it.

When my medical expires I still can fly with PPL privileges so if I applied with an expired medical what licenses would they send me, an ATPL fixed wing and a Commercial rotary wing or a PPL?

.,

I haven't held a Canadian Cat 1 Medical for years. Yet I have added type ratings while I still have Cat III privledges, and the licence grade is still the same "ATP." They even print my expired Instrument Rating with the old expiration date. Relax! The new booklet is only a new licence format, not a change in the regulations.

[sakism]

... It's no different than if any other license were to expire, and you waited till just prior to the deadline, be it your drivers license, passport, etc, its all the same, its just everyones license is expiring all at once and thats when the change is happening.

Actually, it's also that my ATPL has no expiry date - never has. Not until TC arbitrarily decided that it was to expire in March or April, or whenever it is.

As with many other people here I only found out about this through reading AvCanada. I'm kind of upset that the validity of my licence is predicated upon my:
a - owning a computer
b - surfing the internet
c - knowing about, and visiting, a website with no affiliation with TC.

Seeing as we have to do it, however, I have a question about the application form (I had no trouble downloading it from TC's website). Under Part B: Verification of Photograph it asks for Licence or Delegation number. Now, since basically anyone can verify my picture, what are they asking for??

[CD]

As with many other people here I only found out about this through reading AvCanada...

One thing about this whole issue is that it sure is an indication of how many people read the Aviation Safety Letter, where the changeover has been written about a few times... and I'm fairly certain that anyone with a license (or is it a valid medical?) still receives each issue.

Issue 1/07 - Transport Canada Update—Personnel Licence Booklet
Issue 3/08 - Aviation Document Booklet

[scrambled_legs]

I have a licence and a valid medical and haven't received an Aviation Safety Letter since I got my AIM. I just figured people either stopped crashing with the wonderful new AIM in their possession, or the $55 I paid for my medical now went towards blow and hookers. This is interesting though, I'll have to call someone and get reading about how we'll all die again.

[Colibri]

or the $55 I paid for my medical now went towards blow and hookers

[Hedley]

You guys are missing a crucially important detail, which is:

AIRPLANES CAN READ

See, if you don't get your fancy new paper licence, the
airplane will know that all the paperwork is not in order,
and you will crash and burn horribly.

[CD]

...or the $55 I paid for my medical now went towards blow and hookers...

[sakism]

One thing about this whole issue is that it sure is an indication of how many people read the Aviation Safety Letter, where the changeover has been written about a few times... and I'm fairly certain that anyone with a license (or is it a valid medical?) still receives each issue.

Don't recall the reading of the Aviation Safety Newsletter as being a condition of licence validity either. Regardless, I did read about it in the issue, but was waiting to be mailed specific information on how to apply for the licence. Reading about it in the newsletter still would do a person no good if they had no computer. I have never advised TC that I was able to conduct vital correspondence through digital media, nor have I ever been asked.

Again, though - what is the licence/delegation number box for? I can easily imagine this being returned for insufficient information even though there is no guidance on this subject.

[CD]

Don't recall the reading of the Aviation Safety Newsletter as being a condition of licence validity either. Regardless, I did read about it in the issue, but was waiting to be mailed specific information on how to apply for the licence. Reading about it in the newsletter still would do a person no good if they had no computer. I have never advised TC that I was able to conduct vital correspondence through digital media, nor have I ever been asked.

Now that is a good question... Put like that, I too wonder if any consideration was given to how folks that don't receive electronic notices are supposed to magically know that they would have to initiate the application process?

Based on the Advisory Circular that has been published, I'm thinking not.

Again, though - what is the licence/delegation number box for? I can easily imagine this being returned for insufficient information even though there is no guidance on this subject.

On the back of the form there is guidance related to the completion of Part B. Based on that information, I would suspect that the licence/delegation number is only applicable to the first two options in the list for a "verifier". If you choose a guarantor from the Passport Canada list, I don't think that it would apply as I don't recall any similar box for a guarantor on the passport application form. That's how I read that, anyway...

Part B --Verification of Photograph
The photograph verifier can be one of the following:
· a person who has a delegation of authority issued by the Minister of Transport to perform functions in support of civil aviation;
· a Transport Canada Civil Aviation employee assigned these duties by a manager; or
· a person who is considered to be an eligible guarantor pursuant to Passport Canada. See Passport Canada's Web site for eligible passport guarantors: http://www.pptc.gc.ca/cdn/section2.aspx?lang=eng.

[AUGER9]

Again, though - what is the licence/delegation number box for? I can easily imagine this being returned for insufficient information even though there is no guidance on this subject.

On the back of the form there is guidance related to the completion of Part B. Based on that information, I would suspect that the licence/delegation number is only applicable to the first two options in the list for a "verifier". If you choose a guarantor from the Passport Canada list, I don't think that it would apply as I don't recall any similar box for a guarantor on the passport application form. That's how I read that, anyway...

Part B --Verification of Photograph
The photograph verifier can be one of the following:
· a person who has a delegation of authority issued by the Minister of Transport to perform functions in support of civil aviation;
· a Transport Canada Civil Aviation employee assigned these duties by a manager; or
· a person who is considered to be an eligible guarantor pursuant to Passport Canada. See Passport Canada's Web site for eligible passport guarantors: http://www.pptc.gc.ca/cdn/section2.aspx?lang=eng.

[/quote]

I believe you are correct. I left that spot blank on my form. Should also note that passport Canada changed their reqs for the guarantor. They no longer need to be a doctor/lawyer type person, just someone with a passport themselves will do.