Ornge Pc 12's

[bob sacamano]

I had a feeling it would be JB. Has good experience, but I think his last medivac experience was with JV back in the day.

[Catdriver]

anyone been offered a interview yet? Captains or FO's?

[2R]

Do you have to belong to the Orange Order to work for them ?

[LifeJet]

ORNGE ORGNE ORNGE...

[Doc Driver]

Wow, gotta admit it looks siiiick in orange. (good sick)

[Doc Driver]

I mean ornge.

[Doc Driver]

Is that thunder bay?

[AEROMONKEY]

Ya thats YQT came in yesterday, brand new from Switzerland, with swiss registration...it was heading to Denver for some interior work. it was flying with another pc12, it was painted Grey.

[Changes in Latitude]

how many aircraft will they have?
are they still hiring?

[Catdriver]

I heard from them the other day as I got the application package in the email.

I now know they are looking for 10 captains and 10 FOs. I have not heard where the interviews will take place or the dates!

[Carrier]

Where is the commitment to safety of crews and patients when they are replacing turbo-prop twins with singles? Are these singles only going to operate in VMC, daylight, within gliding distance of land and over terrain that offers many options for forced landings?

[Doc Driver]

Here we go.

[Cat Driver]

Here we go.

The questions are valid.

[Catdriver]

lets see?

How many Kingair accidents compared to PC12 accidents over the past couple of years?

I would rather be in a new PC12 than a clapt out kingair!!!

[Cat Driver]

I would rather be in a new PC12 than a clapt out kingair!!!

Really?

If the Sonic Blue pilot who had his engine quit on him out here a couple of years ago had been flying " a clapped out King Air " would he and his passengers have died?

Another thing, if the pilots who are given clapped out airplanes to fly had any brains they would refuse to fly them. So the clapped out comment is not valid.

[ScudRunner]

Still would rather be in a PC-12, as for a Caravan operated by anyone other than Sonic Blue I'd take that over a Navajo any day as well.

From a Previous post of mine.

Its absolutely astonishing that a company that was perceived for having maintenance issues and other issues is the company to have an engine failure in a C208.

Lets see here list of C208 operators in Canada:
Alkan
North Wright
Villers
ASW
NT Air
Missinipi
Calm Air
Wasaya
Alta Flights
Morning Star
Airborne
Sanders
Fugro
Big River Air
Nakina
Jackson Air
Thunder Air
Tindi
PE Air
RCMP
ConAir
SeaAir
Labrador Air

Correct me if I am wrong but did any of these other operators have engines cave on them?? Anyone Anyone Buhler Buhler.......

But somehow it's good old Sonic Blue/Regency that throws snake eyes at the table and has there engine crap out, absolutely amazing that all these other operators have just had a horseshoe up there ass the entire time but poor old RXX Air gets the lemon engine that decides to pack it in. Hey but if Ed had a brand spanken new GPS with all the bells and whistles we would be having a beer right now talking shop.

Anyone else getting a little pissed off at this Single Engine Vs Multi Engine crap. Lets focus here, I have flown thousands of hours around in SE Piston and never had them crap out on me and most of that time I was down in dirty fairly close to the ground, flown a PC-12 around area's if the shit hits the fan I would probably be going all "alive" on my pax waiting to be rescued.
I don't mean to go off on a rant here but I have logged thousands in Multi Pistons and Turbines and Jets for reputable operators who get there engines rebuilt from all the same people that your company did or still does and yet in all that time, with everyone I know in aviation and have flown with or talked to the only operator I know of to have an engine crap out on them is Sonic Blue, I'm not talking precautionary shut down in a King Air and continued or had a fire and immediately diverted to somewhere right quick or the PC-12 that continued flying around with no oil over Newfoundland with plenty of options, I'm talking about bang boom gone sputter put " it died Ace oh shit".

Oh I'm Sure Cats got some story about this one time at band camp flying around some old radial over the north atlantic when Captain Ahab shot him with a harpoon type story but WTF am I suppose to believe that company's like I listed above have a monk bless there aircraft before each flight and that's what keeps them safe? So why is it that a company can operate right under the noses of the people that are suppose to keep the sky's safe for the workers and traveling public have this stroke of bad luck in a modern Aircraft operating Pavement to pavement and home every night with the people at maintenance to address any concern snag or loose screw when the crew puts here to bed. Really do you think it might not have anything to with having the wiz bang GPS over the rocks or on the praires or Arctic, or could it possibly be that something else was going on at this company? That's Just my opinion I could be wrong

So back to Ornge whats the Pay and where they going to be Based.

[Catdriver]

Thunder Bay, Sioux Lookout, Timmins, and I think Sudbury. Great Post ..!!

[Cat Driver]

Children, children it is not that the PC12 or the Caravan are not good reliable machines.

It is about the simple fact that the failure of an engine in the wrong place can be fatal.

How or why the engine on the Sonic Blue Caravan failed is academic the problem was where it failed.

Had he been flying a twin engine machine he would have been able to fly to the nearest suitable airport it is as simple as that.

Most twin engine airplanes can and will fly to a safe landing after losing an engine especially the turbine powered ones.

[200hr Wonder]

Good maintenance, bad maintenance, it does not matter an engine will die at some point usually when it is not a good time. The simple fact is that they are mechanical and built and maintained by humans so by there very definition are not perfect. You can have THE BEST maintenance in the world but if there is a flaw in the rotor disk at manufacturing that does not get picked up guess what the engine could die in a spectacular fashion. Oh and re Sonic Blue, the engine failure was not caused by poor maintenance apparently according to the TSB report. For that simple reason I prefer a second stove always.

[CCFP]

Thunder Bay, Sioux Lookout, Timmins, and I think Sudbury. Great Post ..!!

And Ottawa!