Navajo crash on final for YVR?

[v6g]

Terrible news.

Isn't that 1 block away from the TSB's office?

[canwhitewolf]

plane crash near Ikea

http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/fier ... story.html

[OntheNumbers]

http://yvr.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html

Last position shows them at 696 ft and 119 kts about 2 miles from the airport before disappearing.

Yes, at around 10:08 PM.

[Bulawrench]

It looks like Airsea.
All our thoughts go out to the families and friends.

[Phlyer]

If someone in the know could pm me the names of the pilots I would very much appreciate it.
Blessings, and RIP.
Foto

[ZBBYLW]

I would also request a PM of the pilot's names. I have just moved to Winnipeg and I have been a little out of touch the last few months.

[ils09]

Ditto

[tlr45]

All the best to the crew's loved ones.


Not Canadian Flyers machine!

[SkyWolfe]

Very sad... RIP

[HS-748 2A]

Does anybody know the reg.?

[Widow]

Friend just told me that CTV was reporting that it was Canadian Air Charters.

Is it confirmed CAC? If so, I too would appreciate a PM with the pilots names.

Deepest condolences to all affected.

Stay safe everyone.

Edited to add: Many thanks to those who have PM'd with names.

[Topspin]

Friend just told me that CTV was reporting that it was Canadian Air Charters.

Is it confirmed CAC? If so, I too would appreciate a PM with the pilots names.

Deepest condolences to all affected.

Stay safe everyone.

If you can call this confirmed.....

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Plane+ ... story.html

...The pilots left Nanaimo at 8:20 p.m. and flew to Victoria to pick up more blood. They were chartering an eight-seat Navajo Piper aircraft.

Canadian Blood Services had chartered the plane from Richmond-based Canadian Air Charters for the flight from Victoria.

According to the B.C. corporate registry, Canadian Air Charters was incorporated on Nov, 28, 2003.

The Canadian Civil Aircraft Register, operated by Transport Canada, shows that the aircraft was built in the U.S. by the Piper Aircraft Corporation in 1980, and was imported in 2005....

I wouldn't call anything CanWest publishes 100% though...

[Widow]

A PM has confirmed it was CAC. Once again, my deepest sympathies.

[wxguy]

CADORS Number: 2009P0914 Reporting Region: Pacific

Occurrence Information
Occurrence Type: Accident Occurrence Date: 2009/07/10
Occurrence Time: 0510 Z Day Or Night: night-time
Fatalities: 2 Injuries: 0

Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYVR Aerodrome Name: Vancouver Intl
Occurrence Location: Vancouver Intl (CYVR) Province: British Columbia
Country: CANADA World Area: North America

Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 108676-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event Information
Collision with terrain
Aircraft Information
Flight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: PIPER Model: PA31 350
Year Built: 1980 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: AVCO LYCOMING Engine Model: TIO-540-J2BD
Engine Type: Reciprocating Gear Type:
Phase of Flight: Approach Damage: Destroyed
Owner: INTEGRA OPS LTD - CANADIAN AIR CHARTERS Operator: CANADIAN AIR CHARTERS (14664)
Operator Type: Commercial

Detail Information
User Name: Samson, Donna
Date: 2009/07/10
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: System Safety
Narrative: Canadian Air Charters Air Cargo Flight AX511(C-GNAF), a Piper Navajo PA31 VFR Victoria to Vancouver, disappeared on about a 2 1/2 mile final for Runway 26R. An aircraft on final behind the PA31 reported to the Tower they observed an explosion in front of them and a fire on the ground. The aircraft crashed in a parking lot in an industrial area and caught on fire. No injuries reported on the ground. There were 2 souls on board that were fatally injured. A Minister's Observer has been assigned and the TSB is investigating.

[HS-748 2A]

http://www.airlinefan.com/airline-photo ... an/C-GNAF/

[Sulako]

That's awful news

[WHIPPER]

Sincerest condolences to everyone affected. Very very sad. Could someone please PM the names of the pilots, have a friend I lost contact with...

[Topspin]

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/C-GNAF.html

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N3588Z.html

[Sidebar]

Any other suggestion?[/quote]Yeah. Here's my suggestion. GIVE IT A REST! These poor guys are dead less than 24 hours and you want to point the finger at them already? This is one of the most disgusting things about this site - all the ghouls hanging around wanting to speculate in an almost total absence of facts.

[Topspin]

Anyone can put the potential problem(s) that cause the crash?

Any other suggestion?

Yeah. Here's my suggestion. GIVE IT A REST! These poor guys are dead less than 24 hours and you want to point the finger at them already? This is one of the most disgusting things about this site - all the ghouls hanging around wanting to speculate in an almost total absence of facts.

Amen.

[Topspin]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fatal+ ... story.html

METRO VANCOUVER -- Richmond-based Canadian Air Charters is voluntarily suspending flight operations until Monday following the fatal crash of its twin-engine Piper PA-31-350 aircraft that killed two pilots while on landing approach to Vancouver International Airport.

Rod Nelson, regional director of communications for Transport Canada, said Friday the company's decision to temporarily ground its remaining fleet of six aircraft has nothing to do with a "special purpose inspection" of the airline scheduled to begin next week.

[Widow]

I would think the whole company is reeling and the decision to shut down for a few days and grieve is a good one.

[billybongthornton]

had a couple students go on to work for CAC, worried sick so if someone could pm me those involved it would be greatly appreciated

[AirdogAlpha]

I am sorry that some of you find it offensive that in the search for answers, and effort to make flying safer... that we would discuss this accident in an open and constructive forum. As a person who has lost many friends to flight related accidents I know that if they could speak.... they ALL would want us to learn from their misfortunes. ... Whether or not it is mech or pilot error. The reality is that this accident is now a prime area of discussion at airports around Vancouver... with the weekend approaching there will be many conversations of GA and pro pilots. This is good. Anytime we can get people thinking about WTurb ...and remind them of the dangers it is a good thing... a very good thing
Today, several young students from BCIT stopped by the accident scene where they learned an important lesson about what happens when you are low and slow...and how little time you have to recover if you have a problem ... engine failure, bird strike, or WTurb.
Open debate is about learning...and preventing. If you feel that we should not learn and prevent... and safe lives, then you are not a very good aviator. I would encourage everyone here...to discuss. It could save your life... no matter what the cause of this accident is


Kind regards
Mark Miller
CTV Aviation Analyst

[scm]

Another sad day on the coast...hopefully this summer will be better than last.