Personal Callsigns

[pelmet]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/s ... 7d6677e4a3

Might ruin careers.

[Inverted2]

The only acceptable call signs will be “Rainbow” or “Cupcake” now. Back in WWII they painted naked ladies on the nose. Wokeism has infected everything. Military is no exception.

[Bede]

The woke brigade seems to forget that the military's primary role is to kill people when needed. As long as they're being PC while doing it U guess....

[mijbil]

Anybody know the fighter pilot name that was used in the RCAF that was in the news today.

FAWG = Fucked A Woman Gay.

Some of my other favourites were
"Custer" - = lost a bar fight to some Indians in Cold Lake
"BUG" = he had a really really ugly girlfriend. She had a Bent Up Grill.
"Guns" = she had no tits.

The others tend to be tamer.

[DanWEC]

FAWG = Fucked A Woman Gay.

Some of my other favourites were
"Custer" - = lost a bar fight to some Indians in Cold Lake
"BUG" = he had a really really ugly girlfriend. She had a Bent Up Grill.
"Guns" = she had no tits.

The others tend to be tamer.

Your callsign is something embarassing and sticks. It's tradition.
However, what I was told first hand was it was something about piss and that's was all, nothing about gender.

Either way, it's just terrific that our military officers can be defeated by feelings. They're supposed to be a special type of person that can do a job not many people can, in an regime that involves a unique skillset in order to keep the rest of us protected. The things that apply to your average citizen aren't supposed to apply to the military. That's the entire point. If they do, it doesn't work. Can't call HR because you're being shot at.

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FLAPS

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FAWG = Fucked A Woman Gay.

Some of my other favourites were
"Custer" - = lost a bar fight to some Indians in Cold Lake
"BUG" = he had a really really ugly girlfriend. She had a Bent Up Grill.
"Guns" = she had no tits.

The others tend to be tamer.

Your callsign is something embarassing and sticks. It's tradition.
However, what I was told first hand was it was something about piss and that's was all, nothing about gender.

Either way, it's just terrific that our military officers can be defeated by feelings. They're supposed to be a special type of person that can do a job not many people can, in an regime that involves a unique skillset in order to keep the rest of us protected. The things that apply to your average citizen aren't supposed to apply to the military. That's the entire point. If they do, it doesn't work. Can't call HR because you're being shot at.

Right. Because the military does not care about public appearances or public opinion, nor about the current political climate...

Nor do they have set of rigid rules governing appearances such as uniforms....

PR and propaganda is getting more and more important in a Twitter and Facebook society. A story about how commander Pisspot receives a medal for saving the lives of pilots Hitler and BJ69 just doesn't generate the desired PR. It would look great on some honorary plaque or embroidered piece of textile though!

[DanWEC]

FLAPS

FLAPS... that was it.

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Right?

[complexintentions]

or...

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[photofly]

The woke brigade seems to forget that the military's primary role is to kill people when needed. As long as they're being PC while doing it U guess....

To be fair, the Canadian military is more likely to be peace-keeping than fighting, but if you can establish that it makes you more likely to shoot down enemy airplanes if you have an offensive name, have at it.

[Bede]

To be fair, the Canadian military is more likely to be peace-keeping than fighting...

Maybe a few decades ago, but we've dropped bombs in Afghanistan & Libya, done covert missions in Iraq and are likely training Ukrainian troops in Ukraine or a neighbouring country.

...but if you can establish that it makes you more likely to shoot down enemy airplanes if you have an offensive name, have at it.

Offensive to whom? Why should anyone outside their squadron get a say? If it's not offensive to the subject, who are we to judge?
This guy: https://skiesmag.com/news/meet-jameel-j ... est-pilot/ callsign was Chocolate. He's one of North America's most decorated test pilots. Does the public at large get to tell him that he should find his own call sign offensive?
As an aside, I find the doctrine of collateral damage far more offensive than even the most vulgar of slurs. Why are our most fiercely contested battles over language?

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Does the public at large get to tell him that he should find his own call sign offensive?

The article states that the military police intervened, and that the hearing won't be open to the public.

So why are you assuming the public cared?

Offensive to whom? Why should anyone outside their squadron get a say? If it's not offensive to the subject, who are we to judge?

What if the squadron decides they all want to wear sweatpants and Hawaiian t-shirts instead of uniforms? If it's not offensive to them, who are we to judge?


It's not about what the public thinks, it's about what the higher-ups will think the public will think.

[photofly]

To be fair, the Canadian military is more likely to be peace-keeping than fighting...

Maybe a few decades ago, but we've dropped bombs in Afghanistan & Libya, done covert missions in Iraq and are likely training Ukrainian troops in Ukraine or a neighbouring country.

...but if you can establish that it makes you more likely to shoot down enemy airplanes if you have an offensive name, have at it.

Offensive to whom?

The “how will it look when presented in the worst possible light in the press” test is quite a helpful gauge. Some controversial things are worth the energy you’d have to expend defending them. Some aren’t. In which category does having your colleagues call you “Asswipe” over the radio fall? Is this a hill to die on? (No pun intended.) Does it help you shoot down more planes? I’m willing to be schooled that it does, but if so, please make a case. The connection doesn’t seem obvious, to me.

Why are our most fiercely contested battles over language?

Because we’re blessed by having nothing else to fight over. That doesn’t mean it’s not worth thinking about.

Here’s another uniformed service with problems about “light banter”:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... re-brigade

[Bede]

Fair argument.

[rookiepilot]

Have any of you reflected on why our collective public leadership, almost everywhere now, and on both sides of the spectrum, are so abysmally weak?

It goes directly to this topic, not that its that bad in itself addressing this, but this eradication of the wrong form of language is THE major focus now.

All while we have titanic problems developing as we speak. Colossal problems.

It scares me where we are headed. Its a huge thread drift so I’ll stop there.

[photofly]

Have any of you reflected on why our collective public leadership, almost everywhere now, and on both sides of the spectrum, are so abysmally weak?

There are a few strong leaders around now: Xi, Putin, Kadyrov, Orban, to name a few. And there are some strong leaders past that come to mind from the history of the 20th century. None of them were fussed by "wrong" forms of language - in fact they embraced it, and embrace it still.

Perhaps weak leaders are just what we need.

[W5]

Please spare me.....

[pelmet]

It scares me where we are headed. Its a huge thread drift so I’ll stop there.

It's called a slow motion socialist revolution. Protect yourself while you can. There is still time.

A lot of people will embrace it, until they discover how foolish they were.

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Have any of you reflected on why our collective public leadership, almost everywhere now, and on both sides of the spectrum, are so abysmally weak?

It goes directly to this topic, not that its that bad in itself addressing this, but this eradication of the wrong form of language is THE major focus now.

All while we have titanic problems developing as we speak. Colossal problems.

It scares me where we are headed. Its a huge thread drift so I’ll stop there.

How is this even remotely related to banning a nickname/call sign?

Is it a sign of strength to be saved by the Asswipe of Ottawa or the Pisspot of Calgary vs the Ghost of Kiev?


This is not about the wrong form of language, this is about representation of the Canadian forces abroad and domestically.

[Bede]

All I want to know is what the call signs were so I can know whether to laugh or be offended.

[rookiepilot]

This is not about the wrong form of language, this is about representation of the Canadian forces abroad and domestically.

By…who?

https://globalnews.ca/news/9154586/cana ... -recruits/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wayne- ... -1.6617951

[photofly]

Times change.

Would this be an acceptable callsign today? It was fine for Wing Commander GIbson's dog, in 1944:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_(dog)

[pelmet]

Times change.

Would this be an acceptable callsign today? It was fine for Wing Commander GIbson's dog, in 1944:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_(dog)

This term that you have posted is used by a significant amount of people from a certain community on a regular basis. They appear to have normalized the word. So apparently, it is acceptable as no one seems to have an issue with it in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCEjVC3Dtn8

But remember.....we are the racists.

[mmm...bacon]

Your callsign is something embarassing and sticks. It's tradition.

Either way, it's just terrific that our military officers can be defeated by feelings. They're supposed to be a special type of person that can do a job not many people can, in an regime that involves a unique skillset in order to keep the rest of us protected. The things that apply to your average citizen aren't supposed to apply to the military. That's the entire point. If they do, it doesn't work. Can't call HR because you're being shot at.

Agreed...to a point. However, within an organization that is suffering from numerous sexual harassment/assault complaints and charges, allowing a woman to be nicknamed 'Guns', in mocking reference to her chest size, seems to be inviting just the trouble that the Military is trying to avoid.
From the story:

Specifically, military police have accused the two officers of having failed to enforce the military's orders when it comes to preventing and addressing sexual misconduct.

It should be easy enough to come up with a callsign/nickname that is somewhat edgy yet won't run into outright harassment, no?