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Re: Article: Sunwing wants to avoid Air Canada's errors

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Well ea306, small correction. In 2005, there were 2 UK pilots sent to Canada for the Winter.
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Would love to have you aboard.

It has been great to fly with some of the new hires....puts fresh enthusiasm into the flight deck and I honestly have to say that I really do enjoy being here!

Wishing you and many others the best of luck in joining us!

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Re: Article: Sunwing wants to avoid Air Canada's errors

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The Gand M:

I stand corrected... I did not know that.

Cheers.
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I don't recall anyone coming from the UK in 2005, can you refresh my memory? We did hire a couple from the UK who changed companies though.
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Re: Article: Sunwing wants to avoid Air Canada's errors

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Yes that is true... Don't think they came in 2005 though. Both gentlemen had the right of abode in Canada as landed immigrants/residency work visa through the normal processes of immigration and were hired. I believe at least one of them is still employed here. Hardly anything to do with foreign worker reciprocy which has been the concern.

Unless of course there is something else you are referring to that I am not aware of?
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XL sent over 2 pilots, for the Winter 2005. By chance, one had right of abode in Canada…the other one did not.
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Re: Article: Sunwing wants to avoid Air Canada's errors

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Les pilotes de Sunwing inquiets
Publié le 21 septembre 2012 à 07h34 | Mis à jour à 07h37



(Montréal) Les transporteurs aériens du Canada pourraient être tentés d'adopter les méthodes utilisées par Sunwing pour maximiser les profits, ce qui se ferait au détriment des pilotes canadiens, aux dires du syndicat des pilotes de Sunwing.
«La situation est en train d'évoluer de façon très dangereuse pour l'aviation canadienne», a déclaré le secrétaire-trésorier du syndicat, Jean-Christophe Lamy, dans une entrevue téléphonique avec La Presse Affaires.
Les affaires de Sunwing sont très cycliques. Pendant sa saison haute, en hiver, le voyagiste utilise des appareils supplémentaires appartenant à la multinationale britannique TUI, qui détient une participation de 49% dans son capital-actions. 
Sunwing fait alors appel à un grand nombre de pilotes étrangers, surtout européens, qui s'ajoutent à ses 150 pilotes canadiens.

Le voyagiste n'a pas besoin de payer les importants frais de formation de ces pilotes saisonniers.
Pendant sa saison basse, en été, Sunwing se retrouve avec des équipages en surplus. Le voyagiste canadien envoie donc un certain nombre de pilotes en Europe, chez TUI.
«Sunwing cherche à minimiser ses coûts, ce à quoi nous ne sommes pas opposés, a déclaré M. Lamy. Nous voulons travailler pour une compagnie qui fait des profits. Mais c'est la façon de faire des profits qui suscite notre opposition.»
Il a affirmé que Sunwing utilisait toutes les possibilités que lui offrait la loi pour minimiser les coûts, notamment en faisant venir des pilotes étrangers.
«C'est la magnitude de cette façon de faire que nous trouvons abusive, a soutenu M. Lamy. On n'est pas contre l'idée de travailler avec des collègues de notre compagnie soeur, mais quand, en hiver, 150 pilotes de Sunwing travaillent avec 200 collègues étrangers, ça commence à être un peu trop.»
Les pilotes d'Air Canada et d'Air Transat ont déjà condamné cette façon de faire et ont même envoyé une pétition au gouvernement canadien.
M. Lamy a déclaré que ces pilotes avaient raison de s'inquiéter.
«Il y a des précédents qui peuvent être établis et, à terme, ça risque de changer complètement la façon d'exploiter des compagnies aériennes au Canada, au détriment des pilotes canadiens», a-t-il affirmé.
Les pilotes de Sunwing entreprennent des négociations pour le renouvellement de leur convention collective.

Google translation:
Sunwing pilots worried
Posted September 21, 2012 at 7:34 | Updated at 7:37



(Montreal) Canadian air carriers may be tempted to adopt the methods used by Sunwing to maximize profits, which would be detrimental to Canadian pilots, according to the pilots' union Sunwing.
"The situation is evolving very dangerous to Canadian aviation," said the secretary-treasurer of the union, Jean-Christophe Lamy, in a telephone interview with La Presse Affaires.
Sunwing cases are very cyclical. During the high season in winter, the tour uses additional devices belonging to the British multinational TUI, which owns a 49% stake in its share capital.
Sunwing then appealed to a large number of foreign pilots, mostly European, in addition to its 150 Canadian pilots.

The tour does not need to pay significant fees formation of these seasonal pilots.
During the low season, in summer up with Sunwing crews surplus. The Canadian tour operator then sends a number of drivers in Europe with TUI.
"Sunwing seeks to minimize its costs, what we are not opposed, Lamy said. We want to work for a company that makes a profit. But this is the way to make profits which raises our opposition. "
He said that Sunwing using all opportunities provided by law to minimize costs, including bringing in foreign pilots.
"This is the magnitude of this approach we find abuse, said Mr. Lamy. We are not against the idea of ​​working with colleagues from our sister company, but when in winter, 150 drivers work with Sunwing 200 foreign colleagues, it starts to be a bit too much. "
The pilots of Air Canada and Air Transat have already condemned this practice and even sent a petition to the Canadian government.
Lamy said that these pilots had reason to worry.
"There are precedents can be established and, ultimately, it might completely change the way airlines operate in Canada, to the detriment of Canadian pilots," he said.
Sunwing pilots undertake negotiations for the renewal of their collective agreement.
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Re: Article: Sunwing wants to avoid Air Canada's errors

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Well we now officially know that the Sunwing pilot's Union has the same position we do with reference to foreign pilots. Great news.
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