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radio abbreviations....

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speaking of radio abbreviations, over the past couple of years i have noticed that air creebec crews are getting creative at "renaming" locations that they service. is it in the name of de-congesting 22.8/26.7 ???

for example, i used to hear a bandit or a dash 8 calling "cree XXX off moose for attawapiskat" after a couple of months, a new fresh voice would make a call like "cree XXX off moose for attawap".

then, low and behold, when i figured i've heard it all, a couple of months after that, that same call is now "cree XXX off moose for atta"

whats next, "cree XXX off moose for att".????

end of minor rant, there are worse things the cree boys/girls could be doing, i think they are doing a fine job.
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It's not like yer gonna confuse Att for Kash or Pik...
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you're right, we aren't going to confuse pik with pop, kash with att/atta/attawap, or ratdam....on and on, and on. i know. the point here is folks, we aint pioneers here, everything we do today has been done before. lets not try to re-invent the wheel. everyplace has a name. a proper name. lets just use it and be done with it already. shortening a destinations name shouldn't make a call shorter. like mentioned earlier, use the KISS principle. for those companies who have a standardized format and content to follow as per SOP's, this rant or someone elses does not apply.

to those individuals who feel it necessary to put on that deep air canada or whatever voice, and like to hear themselves or, like others to know that they are in the air, please.....

if you don't have the standardized call in your sop's all you need to say is

1) who you are,
2) where you are(keep it logical and reasonable)(include altitude)
3) where you are going.

from that, anyone with enough grey-matter to hold the license, can figure out that if they are in conflict, they will advise you, don't worry.

cheers all :wink:
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:D " OCD round? " :P

Ahh - the good 'ol days.
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ah yes the good old days :D
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Round..OCD....switch
Poor Philly......looking for less long winded radio calls...and he gets a long winded thread on the subject...
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sprucemonkey wrote::D " OCD round? " :P

Ahh - the good 'ol days.
you should have hard the conversation in the office... just as riveting.

oh and Pic could also be pickle lake, pop could be poplar hill or poplar river or .... never mind.... long winded...can't breath.... squaking 7600 cuz i don't wanna listen.
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Post by just curious »

No Wings,
Pik could never be Pickle. Pickle lake is Pickle or maybe Pickle Beach, but having touched the hearts (and livers) of many, Pickle's name is unique and unmistakeable.
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Then there's always that throbbing metropolis....Sour Outlook!
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just curious wrote:No Wings,
Pik could never be Pickle. Pickle lake is Pickle or maybe Pickle Beach, but having touched the hearts (and livers) of many, Pickle's name is unique and unmistakeable.

hee hee
you would make the mayor proud
but... why is it called pickle lake? just wondering.
i am bored...
and am returning to pik... i mean pickle...soon.
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Wings, on behalf of the Mayor:
BRIEF HISTORY OF PICKLE LAKE
Deeply rooted in the origins of Canada, the history of the Pickle Lake area dates back to the early days of the fur trade – in 1786 the Hudson Bay Company established a trading post called Osnaburgh House on the shores of Lake St. Joseph. Freighter canoes still made trips on the Albany River into the early 1970’s.

Harvesting of furs remained the major activity in the area until 1928, when GOLD was discovered along the banks of the Kawinogans River. Technological advances, namely air transport, made the area accessible and mining began in 1929. Pickle Lake, being the closest lake to the two new gold mines at Pickle Crow and Central Patricia, became the transportation center of the area. What was then known as Pickle Landing, is now the town site of PICKLE LAKE.

It wasn’t long until the area became a typical mine boomtown. The new mines opened up a vast range of opportunities. In the 1930’s the Ontario Department of Lands and Forests established a base in Pickle Lake. In order to provide electric power for the mines, Ontario Hydro constructed a generating station at Rat Rapids.

In 1936, the Pickle Lake Hotel was constructed and became a focal point in the community. In 1987 the remodeled and expanded hotel was destroyed by fire. The hotel was rebuilt in 1989 and remains open today.

By 1939, several air companies were operating out of “The Landing” at Pickle Lake. The area was dependent on these companies for all supplies and contact with the outside world. Each year, during spring and fall freeze-up, when the lakes were unsuitable for landing, the area was totally isolated from civilization except by radio. It was not until 1944 that an airstrip was constructed in Central Patricia by the mining companies and the community finally had a permanent connection to the outside world.

Typical of mining communities, the town has experienced a series of booms and busts. The first bust occurred in 1951, when the Central Patricia gold mine was closed. During its life, the mine produced 670,000 ounces of gold and supported a population of 400. After the closure of the mine, the population dwindled to 51 hearty individuals.

The Pickle Crow gold mine stopped production in 1966, bringing to an end the boom which had stared in 1935. Producing 1.5 million ounces of gold over its thirty-one year span, it was one of the richest producing mines in history. The fate of the community after the mine shut down was even more tragic than that of Central Patricia. In the early 1970’s, the Ministry of Natural Resources, under orders to clean up all abandoned mine sites, burned the Pickle Crow town site to the ground, destroying the last remnants of an integral part of Ontario’s history.

Pickle Lake boomed once again in 1974 with the construction of the Umex Thierry Mine. This time copper was mined, but the operation was shut down when changes in the base metals market made it unprofitable. The population, which reached a peak of 1,200 in 1981, dropped once again to around 400.

In 1956, Highway 599 finally made Pickle Lake accessible by road. Prior to this, freight was transported over the difficult terrain for 160 kilometers from the Canadian National Railroad line in Savant Lake and Sioux Lookout. This was achieved by a combination of horse teams on land and scows and barges across the waterways.

Pickle Lake, previously known as an Improvement District was incorporated in December 1980 to become the Township of Pickle Lake. Today, the Township includes both communities of Pickle Lake and Central Patricia.

In 1987, after year of exploration activities, the community once again became a boomtown. Both Placer Dome Inc. and St. Joe Canada (Bond Gold) opened mines in the Pickle Lake area. Placer Dome constructed a mine at Dona Lake, 35 kilometers from the town of Pickle Lake. It closed its doors in 1994. Bond Gold’s mine was 30 miles northwest of Pickle Lake and closed in 1995.

In 1996, Placer Dome Inc. opened Musselwhite Mine approximately 160 kilometers from the town of Pickle Lake. This mine is expected to produce well into the new millennium!

Like all mining towns, Pickle Lake is peppered with stories of its rich history. First Nations and other residents have been in the community for more than 50 years! The stories they tell are real life examples of the courage, determination, and sense of humour necessary to build a life and a future in the great, Canadian north!
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Yeah...what he said...and the lake is actually shaped like a pickle!
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When i had the joy or residing in YPL in the early 80,s we used to call it cucumber creek. Quite the place for a few years at least we never ran out of beer during the strike.
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Post by winston »

Another thing for the tree toppers to keep in mind when they are talking hockey scores (ok, CFL scores) and propane jugs ad nauseum because they think the airwaves are quiet is that it may be quiet for you but for everyone over 10,000 we usually end up hearing that ever pleasant high pitched Cat Fight when everyone is stepping on each other.
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Post by water wings »

upontop325 wrote:Yeah...what he said...and the lake is actually shaped like a pickle!
...whut? what lake isn't shaped like a pickle... or someone's pickle, at least
then why is it called long dog? any ideas, Just Curious?..
i am very impressed with the pickle prose.

what was this thread about? oh yah, rambling.
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