Ground collision Airbus 330 and Jazz DH8-300

Canus Chinookus · Post by **Canus Chinookus** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:00 pm

oops, what i meant was a pompous, condescending, thread-hijacking, jackass!

sooooo anyways, anyone have and pics of the damage yet?

Pygmie · Post by **Pygmie** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:15 pm

-8partspig wrote:Sorry to get off topic, but does anyone have any pics of the Dash?

You mean get back on topic?

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:08 am

Pygmie

No one seems to have any pictures of the -8 or at least pictures that their willing to share but the -330 is flying again minus its left winglet.

bcflyer · Post by **bcflyer** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:56 am

The Dash should be ready for a test flight soon (if not already) then its being ferried to Downsview for repairs.

... · Post by **...** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:23 am

Rebel wrote:Pygmie

No one seems to have any pictures of the -8 or at least pictures that their willing to share but the -330 is flying again minus its left winglet.

You know...I've said it before...Rebel is a true die hard for the company he/she works for (AC). No matter what internal issues or problems, he/she will defend his/her company over and over.

A true professional.

I guess that may be the reason he/she is at the top of his/her game.

We could all stand to learn a trick or two from Rebel.

Image=Safety
Safety=Legal procedures

my 2cents.

double-j · Post by **double-j** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:37 am

I agree birdog as I am sure Rebel has ample experience and tons of stories ( I wanna fly a 707!). Thats why I marvel at why he gets caught up in these silly exchanges somtimes...

Sometimes you just gotta let it go.

respectfully,

jj

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:14 pm

I have seen the pictures of the DH8 and the tail is a mess, that's for sure.

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:23 pm

Could you post those pictures?

Fresh Prince of King Air · Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:18 am

I've got pictures of 311 if anyone wants to pm me thier e-mail address I will send them to you!

Fresh Prince of King Air · Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:19 am

Or tell me how to post them!

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:07 am

I knew our AC family would pull through. One of the moderators would probably be happy to post them for you.

Thanks..

Cool Rythms! · Post by **Cool Rythms!** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:07 pm

Hi,

Pardon the intrusion, but I could'nt help but notice what Pratt was saying about the two aircraft's wingtips. Given the height of the A330 above the ground, plus the dihedral on the wings, I find it hard to visualize the 330's wingtip even coming close to touching the Dash 8's wingtip. The tail on the other hand, might be possible.

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:45 pm

Right you are, it was the left winglet of the 330 that contacted the right horizontal stabilizer of the Dash as it tried to go around it.

Fresh Prince of King Air · Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:26 am

Word this morning is that they wrote off 311, she's a hangar queen.

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:46 am

-8partspig

Do you have any idea what the repair costs were in relation to the market value of the aircraft? There has to be more to the story..

Fresh Prince of King Air · Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:58 am

Not sure about repair costs. The info that I recieved is that the damage extends all the way down to the cargo door. Rippling in the fuse..

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:26 am

Thanks if you hear anymore please post it..Hopefully the other side is paying..

yellowdogx · Post by **yellowdogx** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:33 pm

-8partspig wrote:Not sure about repair costs. The info that I recieved is that the damage extends all the way down to the cargo door. Rippling in the fuse..

Not sure about the "rippiling down the fuse"????? Looks good to me....?

The Horiz Stab is still off and its still outside the barn...

Horiz Stab has internal damage, last I heard Brad is looking for a replacment, Jazz will install it and ferry flight (NOT JAZZ DRIVERS) back to Bombardier and they will jig it up...

I should have taken some pictures... big mess.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:44 am

Rebel wrote:...but the -330 is flying again minus its left winglet.

How does that work? Do they remove the second winglet, or can the a/c be MELed (CDLed?) to fly without the winglet? Wouldn't that be a little... uneven? I guess the change in flight characteristics might not be that noticeable from the cockpit, but it'd be interesting to see what sort of difference that'd make.

b767jetmec · Post by **b767jetmec** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:12 am

Removing a winglet has little effect on flight characteristics. I`ve seen one of our 747-400 fly around for a while minus a winglet. It is covered by the MEL. I believe the only penalty is increased fuel burn, roughly 1% increase.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:56 am

Aha. Thanks!

g5 · Post by g5 » Mon May 07, 2007 8:36 am

I never noticed this topic before but I have a pic of the incident, not the greatest quality:

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Mon May 07, 2007 9:16 am

our costs are in line to make money at $90 / barrell oil. Can many other airlines say that. This from the CEO. bloodbath for the rest. wait till southwest runs outta hedge.

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Mon May 07, 2007 5:49 pm

Canus Chinookus wrote:now why would a dash8 only want a Take off clearance for only it's left winglet? Also, what's a dash8 doing with a winglet in the first place?!

thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week, you're a great crowd!

LOL!!

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:04 pm

Flightlevels wrote:our costs are in line to make money at $90 / barrell oil. Can many other airlines say that. This from the CEO. bloodbath for the rest. wait till southwest runs outta hedge.

At $90 a bucket no one makes it outta the red unless fare levels take a big hike. Sorry to discount Clive, but I don't think that makes any sense.

Ground collision Airbus 330 and Jazz DH8-300

a late response...