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No!!!
And good luck getting the weather mins for your 300 x-country. I tried for 6-months steady....beat the 12-month deadline by 2-weeks.
Sky Clear is just another weather brief....look out for possible storms anywhere within 25nm...oh wait...100nm...nah...Continental North America, ya thats it! Have a Good flight.
And good luck getting the weather mins for your 300 x-country. I tried for 6-months steady....beat the 12-month deadline by 2-weeks.
Sky Clear is just another weather brief....look out for possible storms anywhere within 25nm...oh wait...100nm...nah...Continental North America, ya thats it! Have a Good flight.
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Instructions for making student pilot weather decision card:
1. Cut piece of blue paper to business card dimensions.
2. Punch hole in center.
Instructions for use of card:
1. Hold card up and look through hole, if sky colour matches blue paper, proceed to step 2.
2. Repeat step 1 till entire sky has been covered.
3. If card matches all of sky, fly. If card does not match sky, go home.
(good freaking luck)
1. Cut piece of blue paper to business card dimensions.
2. Punch hole in center.
Instructions for use of card:
1. Hold card up and look through hole, if sky colour matches blue paper, proceed to step 2.
2. Repeat step 1 till entire sky has been covered.
3. If card matches all of sky, fly. If card does not match sky, go home.
(good freaking luck)
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Yeah I was thinking about applying there years ago, as soon as I heard you couldn't take aircraft over night or to the US I said f*** it. How do they honestly expect you to get any sort of experience at all? Or the always flying with another student....Thats stupid. If a school doesn't trust you to fly their plane then how are you supposed to feel confident leaving there and looking for a job? Stupid, just stupid....But hey, C182 you seem to be looking for professional atmosphere and I bet you could get that there.
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Well thats too bad that you decided to go somewhere else because of that reason alone... FYI - They do now allow solo's over night in Canada and the United States; it was never because the student couldn't be trusted, but more like the 110+ students who currently attend the school need the usage of all 14 aircraft at various times of the day and to shorten your fleet even more with the same amount of students would be foolish - then you would be one of many students wanting to go flying but couldn't because a class mate had taken off for a day in a C172.
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Flying with someone else is also a pro, not a con, imho. You get to see everything twice. Especially beneficial in the IFR training, you get to watch everything without having to worry about flying the plane.
As for professional environment...
As for professional environment...

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I take that back. I didn't realize they had 110 students on 14 airplanes. I have a question though, why have an ancient 747 sim and only 14 airplanes? Especially when you have 110 students.... I'm sure the sim really helped all the 200 hour, ink still wet, cp guys and gals secure that ever so elusive first job...If a school doesn't trust you

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Listen, plain and simple...you do get good training at Coastal.(period in case you missed it!)
BUT....the licence you get is as good as the next joe blow only at 1.5times the price, and...one thousand times the aggrivation!
Also, please don't think you are going to be Captain tomorrow because of your flight school...it doesn't matter!!!
The level of training is ONLY as good as the student...the instructor probably only has limited REAL-world experience, so take the anything they say with a grain of salt.
Keep in mind, the instructor isn't there to instill industry knowledge...they are there to teach you the basics...which by the way alot of "real" pilots should relearn...don't underestimate the basics!
And finally... THERE IS NO PILOT SHORTAGE. if there was pilots in Canada would be making the same money as Europe!...not less than truck drivers...and more than McDonalds...oh wait thats about what most pilots make for the first number of years! YES Years!!!
No, Air Canada will not ever hire direct from flight schools again.
The 150 retirees this year are already spoken for..don't buy into the retirement shortage BS. It's garbage.
I LOVE WHAT I DO, don't think you will be some Leonardo DeCaprio Airline pilot...expect hard times, and many doubts, stick with it and work hard, you will get your shot. Good luck!
Rant over, if Coastal is what you do, good luck, you will probably hate some, love other, and be relieved when it finishes. But remember you can have fun too! this will make sense if Coastal is where you go!!!
BUT....the licence you get is as good as the next joe blow only at 1.5times the price, and...one thousand times the aggrivation!
Also, please don't think you are going to be Captain tomorrow because of your flight school...it doesn't matter!!!
The level of training is ONLY as good as the student...the instructor probably only has limited REAL-world experience, so take the anything they say with a grain of salt.
Keep in mind, the instructor isn't there to instill industry knowledge...they are there to teach you the basics...which by the way alot of "real" pilots should relearn...don't underestimate the basics!
And finally... THERE IS NO PILOT SHORTAGE. if there was pilots in Canada would be making the same money as Europe!...not less than truck drivers...and more than McDonalds...oh wait thats about what most pilots make for the first number of years! YES Years!!!
No, Air Canada will not ever hire direct from flight schools again.
The 150 retirees this year are already spoken for..don't buy into the retirement shortage BS. It's garbage.
I LOVE WHAT I DO, don't think you will be some Leonardo DeCaprio Airline pilot...expect hard times, and many doubts, stick with it and work hard, you will get your shot. Good luck!
Rant over, if Coastal is what you do, good luck, you will probably hate some, love other, and be relieved when it finishes. But remember you can have fun too! this will make sense if Coastal is where you go!!!
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Overall a good flight school! My experience there was that there were some top notch instructors, but like anywhere else there were also a few duds. Someone commented that they don't treat you like a customer, I wouldn't go that far but I would say that they'll treat you more like a student than a customer. Make sure you get an instructor, and flight partner that you're happy with - might not seem like a big deal at first, but by the end of your training it will be!
The crew resource management, navajo sim and kingair sim are great intro's into ifr flying, as far as the 747-100??? not sure what the deal is with that, the kingair is as much turbine training as you'll need for the next 10 years so save your money and skip the 47.
The crew resource management, navajo sim and kingair sim are great intro's into ifr flying, as far as the 747-100??? not sure what the deal is with that, the kingair is as much turbine training as you'll need for the next 10 years so save your money and skip the 47.
Well as you all know probably, I am new to all of this, but isn't a professional environment a positive factor for the developement of a pilot's personalities... If the Pilot is able to do the same thing somebody else is with professional and rather good manners and thinking, I don't see how that could be anything but positive...But hey, C182 you seem to be looking for professional atmosphere and I bet you could get that there.
And Wheeldriver, yeah, i think that 747 sim is just to appeal students to go there lol... I dont' see the point, I don't see my self flying doing that thing as opposed to getting my instructor rating... only if i find out that you know, getting your instructor rating at CPA is a real waste of time because they won't hire you anyway... heck out of all the "0's" that will be in debt after my flight training, if i am that desperate to try a 747 sim, just go to some airline centre and rent one for a 1000 dollars / minute or what ever the charge is....
Now afterall, is it worth getting the instructor rating at CPA or should an individual just go ahead and do the 747 Sim and get their instructor rating where they can actually work and have a higher guarantee of a job?
If you really want to work at Coastal afterwards as an instructor then you must prove to them that you are of the calibre they require by being a top student in your classes, an above average pilot who is not over bearing like so many are these but still has the qualities to be a leader and a follower, humble enough to admit mistakes and grow from it. Like any place you plan to work in the future, any flight school - they aren't going to hire the guy or girl who just completed the minimums, if you want the job at coastal later on then you have to work for it because everyone else in your instructor rating class will be... FYI they have hired consistantly 1-2 people out of the graduating class for the last few years to work as new class 4's and dispatchers
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Get your ppl first.Now afterall, is it worth getting the instructor rating at CPA or should an individual just go ahead and do the 747 Sim and get their instructor rating where they can actually work and have a higher guarantee of a job?
I've got a question for anyone from cpa and sat in the 747 sim, did it help you get a job?
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just out of curiosity, for somebody who is deadly in love with aviation, and can't let go if it for one second... what exactly needs to be done to be the top student? I really feel that if you are really interested into something, you will learn the content very well, and as you said, learn from the mistakes you mean... also, being the top student in the class, do you mean in the BBA classes, or in the flying classes/lessons or both together, although, how would BBA classes show that you could be a good Instructor?Oleo 4 wrote:If you really want to work at Coastal afterwards as an instructor then you must prove to them that you are of the calibre they require by being a top student in your classes, an above average pilot who is not over bearing like so many are these but still has the qualities to be a leader and a follower, humble enough to admit mistakes and grow from it. Like any place you plan to work in the future, any flight school - they aren't going to hire the guy or girl who just completed the minimums, if you want the job at coastal later on then you have to work for it because everyone else in your instructor rating class will be... FYI they have hired consistantly 1-2 people out of the graduating class for the last few years to work as new class 4's and dispatchers
Oh great what the world needs is more pilots with instructor ratings that don't want to be instructors. The instructor rating should be a choice not a lesser of two evils (747-sim is other). Way to go Coastal, how can you milk more money out of students? I'm sure that you will come up with many more ways.
By the way, how many students in the 4-year degree actually finish in 4-years? My class was full of flight school grads that still had to do 1-to-2 semesters to finish the degree! That IFR ride is just ticking away slowly....can you hear the suck of money flying out of your pocket?
If Mommy and Daddy are paying for the full cost, than Coastal will probably be fun? If not, than every .2 extra they bill you for will fell like rape, soft and gentle, but rape....ask for a kiss when they finish!
Oh yeah, the ass-kissers are the ones that get hired. Pucker-up!
By the way, how many students in the 4-year degree actually finish in 4-years? My class was full of flight school grads that still had to do 1-to-2 semesters to finish the degree! That IFR ride is just ticking away slowly....can you hear the suck of money flying out of your pocket?
If Mommy and Daddy are paying for the full cost, than Coastal will probably be fun? If not, than every .2 extra they bill you for will fell like rape, soft and gentle, but rape....ask for a kiss when they finish!
Oh yeah, the ass-kissers are the ones that get hired. Pucker-up!
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C182 to answer your question,
Top student is just that. Best grades, best attitude (ie don't rock the bloody boat), good flying, etc.. They don't really care a whole lot about your University courses (although I'm sure it factors in somewhere). Keep in mind, if they're going to hire you, it's like any other job, they just know you a little better. I can't really tell exactly you what you need to do to get hired back at Coastal after you grad, but remember that's a long way off buddy. Don't paint yourself into that corner just yet, there are plenty of options to explore. You may or may not want to work there after 4 years.
As for 'learning the content'... be careful what you learn. Some of the greatest lessons I learned there were about irony and inaccuracy. Always question, never accept single source info. And if it sounds bogus, for god sakes, question it! Just caust they're the bloody instructor doesn't make them infallible.
I found it incredibly ironic that they would preach the idea of 'what's right, not who's right' in human factors class, and yet some of the instructors actually got into open arguments in class/sims. (not with me ofcourse
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If you haven't already, I would also suggest looking into the BGS at UCFV in lieu of BBA. It's considered by some to be a bit Mickey Mouse, but it is incredibly flexible and offers more opportunity to take classes you truly will enjoy.
What ever you decide to do, good luck.
Top student is just that. Best grades, best attitude (ie don't rock the bloody boat), good flying, etc.. They don't really care a whole lot about your University courses (although I'm sure it factors in somewhere). Keep in mind, if they're going to hire you, it's like any other job, they just know you a little better. I can't really tell exactly you what you need to do to get hired back at Coastal after you grad, but remember that's a long way off buddy. Don't paint yourself into that corner just yet, there are plenty of options to explore. You may or may not want to work there after 4 years.
As for 'learning the content'... be careful what you learn. Some of the greatest lessons I learned there were about irony and inaccuracy. Always question, never accept single source info. And if it sounds bogus, for god sakes, question it! Just caust they're the bloody instructor doesn't make them infallible.
I found it incredibly ironic that they would preach the idea of 'what's right, not who's right' in human factors class, and yet some of the instructors actually got into open arguments in class/sims. (not with me ofcourse

If you haven't already, I would also suggest looking into the BGS at UCFV in lieu of BBA. It's considered by some to be a bit Mickey Mouse, but it is incredibly flexible and offers more opportunity to take classes you truly will enjoy.
What ever you decide to do, good luck.
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Hey well in general a degree is a good thing to have in the aviation industry, especially if you're goal is to one day fly for a major, correct?
Now the other big reason i am getting a degree is that i seriously need a back up, with 225 lbs and 16 years of age, who knows if I will be able to pass the medical's coming up later on when weight might be a factor controlling cholestrole levels and what not for airline medicals that might screw me over... So having a back-up is always necessary for my case, or even maybe if the industry just goes haywire and stop hiring. What career would i be really able to touch with BGS if aviation was to screw me up for some time, whether medical wise, industry wise, or just my lack of interest (which i find hard to reason with lol)
Now the other big reason i am getting a degree is that i seriously need a back up, with 225 lbs and 16 years of age, who knows if I will be able to pass the medical's coming up later on when weight might be a factor controlling cholestrole levels and what not for airline medicals that might screw me over... So having a back-up is always necessary for my case, or even maybe if the industry just goes haywire and stop hiring. What career would i be really able to touch with BGS if aviation was to screw me up for some time, whether medical wise, industry wise, or just my lack of interest (which i find hard to reason with lol)

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Planning to go to this school next year, as well as doing a degree in Business at Trinity. Any changes to school since this thread was created? Any current student studying there currently?
Thanks.
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The degree will probably cost you quite a bit more now. With the cost of living put into the equation, I calculated that it would cost around $120 000 to go there. Something to note is that Trinity Western University isn't the most reputable University in terms of name. I am not saying you won't get a good education there, but using the degree as a backup plan might be a bit tough, especially 10 years down the road with no relavent work experience. Not sure if you're in the Vancouver area, but if you are, you would be better off going to UBC and doing the flight training on the side; it will cost about the same anyways.
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Yes, I calculated that it will be around $120,000 as well (I dont live in Van area). Trinity is an expensive school, but Im planning to do two years there then transfer to UBC to reduce cost. Trinity Western tuition is around 21K vs 5K at UBC...assuming that it takes around 2 years to get my CPL from scratch(right?), going to be a hard road, but I should be okay. Ive been thinking about going to UBC and have flight training on the side, but my marks are not good to get into UBC.
I see some Pros and Cons from reading this thread,just want to know if the school still a good school. Whats important for me is university degree, CPL and the cost. I want use degree to open more doors,
Thanks for the reply.
I see some Pros and Cons from reading this thread,just want to know if the school still a good school. Whats important for me is university degree, CPL and the cost. I want use degree to open more doors,
Thanks for the reply.
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Are you planning on doing the 2 year diploma with Coastal Pacific and Trinity, or doing 2 years at Trinity for a degree while flying privately on the side?
If you are choosing the diploma route, I am not sure how well your credits will transfer into UBC. Something to consider is completing your degree online. That way, you could fly full-time while building hours, and also get that accreditation behind your name. I am not sure what the Canadian Forces accepts though, so I would check in with them. You could also check out their ROTP or RMC thing (notice I don't know much about it
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Also, from what I hear, training is very good at Coastal Pacific, so you should definitely take that into account. I few grads get hired directly by Pacific Coastal, Orca, etc.
If you are choosing the diploma route, I am not sure how well your credits will transfer into UBC. Something to consider is completing your degree online. That way, you could fly full-time while building hours, and also get that accreditation behind your name. I am not sure what the Canadian Forces accepts though, so I would check in with them. You could also check out their ROTP or RMC thing (notice I don't know much about it

Also, from what I hear, training is very good at Coastal Pacific, so you should definitely take that into account. I few grads get hired directly by Pacific Coastal, Orca, etc.
I know eh? UBC is getting a little ridiculous these days. The annoying part is that BC doesn't standardize their tests. So many places, Vancouver in particular, will bump up their students marks. Something like 40% of students have above 80%, which is just dumb. If you are outside that little, over-competitive schooling area where student's marks are curved, it can be quite difficult to compete. I personally am from Alberta, and I don't know anybody who is considering UBC. I think in the entire graduating class at my high school, only 5 students got above 90%.but my marks are not good to get into UBC
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There is a Degree program with Trinity Western(what it said on their site). I dont want the diploma because I think none of the credits are transferable to UBC. I want to do it with university mainly because of student loan. I dont know if I take my flight training privately, I might not qualify for any more student loan. I dont know, I have to look into it.
As for degree online, I dont know. I want to expirence university life and learn (its once in a lifetime thing right?).
For RMC and ROTP, I have looked into it. Whats nice about them is they pay for everything and you get an allowance each month. What I am against is that for every month they spend on me, I have to spend 2 months serving (or something along that line) and service time is longer for pilot I believe. If I am joining, I will do what they called Direct Entry Officer plan(DEO). That way, If i decided I dont like the military life, I could quit and do something else.
How do grad get hired directly? Do those airlines come to school and recruit? I thought flying job are hard to come by now days? I hang out at PPRuNe, and that seems to be the trend.
For UBC thing, yeah, I agree its ridiculous. Thats why I want to do transfer, because I know my highschool marks will never meet their admission. Plus, I hear teacher at Trinity are great and they have small class size, avg around 16 so high marks are possible for me to get. And for 40% having average above 80s...wow...must be heck of a teacher or students.
Are you a pilot currently?
As for degree online, I dont know. I want to expirence university life and learn (its once in a lifetime thing right?).
For RMC and ROTP, I have looked into it. Whats nice about them is they pay for everything and you get an allowance each month. What I am against is that for every month they spend on me, I have to spend 2 months serving (or something along that line) and service time is longer for pilot I believe. If I am joining, I will do what they called Direct Entry Officer plan(DEO). That way, If i decided I dont like the military life, I could quit and do something else.
How do grad get hired directly? Do those airlines come to school and recruit? I thought flying job are hard to come by now days? I hang out at PPRuNe, and that seems to be the trend.

For UBC thing, yeah, I agree its ridiculous. Thats why I want to do transfer, because I know my highschool marks will never meet their admission. Plus, I hear teacher at Trinity are great and they have small class size, avg around 16 so high marks are possible for me to get. And for 40% having average above 80s...wow...must be heck of a teacher or students.
Are you a pilot currently?
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One thing you should check when going to Trinity, is that if you're doing it through Coastal Pacific, make sure the flight training goes over only two years and not four. If it is four years of flight training mixed in with the degree, it will be impossible for you to transfer to UBC.
The DEO thing is definitely something I might check out as well. I am unsure if I would like military life, but conversely, I think I might really enjoy it, so this would be a good way to give it a try.
Not sure how a grad got direct entry. They probably had to work on the ramp for a year after graduation, and they were probably top of their class.
I have Piloted, but only about 7 hrs TT or so. I am unsure what I want to do for post-secondary. I mainly have been looking at getting an Engineering degree. It's a good backup plan for me, and apparently some of the physics learned can be applied to flying.
The DEO thing is definitely something I might check out as well. I am unsure if I would like military life, but conversely, I think I might really enjoy it, so this would be a good way to give it a try.
Not sure how a grad got direct entry. They probably had to work on the ramp for a year after graduation, and they were probably top of their class.
I have Piloted, but only about 7 hrs TT or so. I am unsure what I want to do for post-secondary. I mainly have been looking at getting an Engineering degree. It's a good backup plan for me, and apparently some of the physics learned can be applied to flying.
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For the DEO thing, you need a univserity degree.
It seems like youre in the same shoe as me...trying to start a career. lol where are you planning on studying and why?
Im planning on going to CPA school and have checking out, instructor, students ratios, cost, location....what else should I look for?
It seems like youre in the same shoe as me...trying to start a career. lol where are you planning on studying and why?
Im planning on going to CPA school and have checking out, instructor, students ratios, cost, location....what else should I look for?