JohnnyHotRocks wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:27 pm
If you want stable and experienced pilots, pay at least $80,000 for the left seat, offer a good schedule with actual days off, increase call out times for on call pilots and ensure that the number one priority in the flight department is safety without financial pressures.
Not saying that you are or aren't doing these things as I do not know the details of your operation. I am however giving you this "free advice" as someone who has been in the business for over 20 years.
I talked to one pilot that used to fly at Evertz and he said he enjoyed his time there tremendously. I haven't heard anything negative about the position as their king air is in great shape and try and keep it that way.
Stability and experience is key you are right, and I mentioned before if given the opportunity to maybe one day flying for Evertz they'll get the stability and the more you fly the more experience. Looking forward to communicating with the CP within the next few days and see where the road will lead.
JohnnyHotRocks wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:13 pm
Good luck. Hopefully it becomes a place where you will wa
nt to hang your hat for a while.
I like their type of flying/lifestyle , if given the opportunity to one day fly for Evertz they'll get someone in me that that's the only place I'll hang my hat till its time to retire from flying for.good. I'll keep trying anyways.
Why are they still hiring? From what has been said before the salary is far below the industry norm. Reading the employee reviews on Indeed about Evertz there seems to be one common theme, LOW PAY!
I emailed their CP and asked all the standard questions, but didn't really get any straight forward answers in terms of pay and schedule. All I know is that you need to live within 1 hour drive from Burlington which won't work for me.
It was a $8,000 bond which I was told by their HR Manager that even renewals have a bond so if you leave halfway through the year then you owe them money.
LegoMan wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 9:54 am
It was a $8,000 bond which I was told by their HR Manager that even renewals have a bond so if you leave halfway through the year then you owe them money.
I don’t think its legal to bond renewals. However I could very much be wrong! Anyone?
LegoMan wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 9:54 am
It was a $8,000 bond which I was told by their HR Manager that even renewals have a bond so if you leave halfway through the year then you owe them money.
JohnnyHotRocks wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 9:44 am
Wonder why they have a revolving door of pilots?
No revolving door. Pilots use us as a stepping stone to the Airlines. Nobody early in there carrier want to be on a King Air the rest of their lives. Thats pretty much a standard.
Thanks for coming here and clarifying some things for us. While we have you, would it be okay if you posted some details about the FO and Captain schedule, pay scales and benefits?
Not everyone wants to go to the Airlines by the way.
Torresdenochea wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:17 am
I emailed their CP and asked all the standard questions, but didn't really get any straight forward answers in terms of pay and schedule. All I know is that you need to live within 1 hour drive from Burlington which won't work for me.
All the best to those that get the job!
As I suggested to you…if you were truly interested; apply through the appropriate channels. I believe I gave you HR’s email address.
If we feel you are a fit and you like the job as described, we will do everything within reason to make a solid offer. This type of flying Gig isn’t for everyone!
Our company is a large company that has a fair and efficient hiring process. It must be adhered to by all departments.
Such a shady answer. That's a way of saying it's shite. If you want people to stay pay them to stay. I'm sure you pay other employees in your company make more then you pay your pilots. Plus the fact that you have airplanes means you have money. Not many young people want to stay but your going to have a hard time getting older folks as their wife's usually have jobs or careers. You need a household income of 200k to live in the GTA the way you live in other cities. You also have to include a quality of life. Living on call 24/7 well no one wants that. You don't make your other employees live in call like that I am willing to bet or even dictate where they can live. Enjoy the revolving door and endless training costs. You have earned it. And in case you have not noticed only shite companies have bonds.
Thanks for coming here and clarifying some things for us. While we have you, would it be okay if you posted some details about the FO and Captain schedule, pay scales and benefits?
Not everyone wants to go to the Airlines by the way.
Thanks again
Schedules
We need to work around our service department, sales, and tech departments. We USUALLY know about a FLT 1 week in advance with occasional minor changes leading up to the FLT.
Benefits
are the best you can ask for. Also we have company matched group RSP
Pay
is also depending on your experience. I can tell you starting FO’s are paid above a lot of other carriers, charter,etc. Captain Pay is discussed during the interview if selected for the position. I know this isn’t giving you the exact information you are looking for. All this will be discussed through the interview process
Tanker299 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 11:42 am
Such a shady answer. That's a way of saying it's shite. If you want people to stay pay them to stay. I'm sure you pay other employees in your company make more then you pay your pilots. Plus the fact that you have airplanes means you have money. Not many young people want to stay but your going to have a hard time getting older folks as their wife's usually have jobs or careers. You need a household income of 200k to live in the GTA the way you live in other cities. You also have to include a quality of life. Living on call 24/7 well no one wants that. You don't make your other employees live in call like that I am willing to bet or even dictate where they can live. Enjoy the revolving door and endless training costs. You have earned it. And in case you have not noticed only shite companies have bonds.
Dont apply... I've been with the company 6 years now, and I do quite well. Its pretty easy to puff your chest and say anything you want while hiding behind Tanker299.
Question for you...where are you working right now?
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I think the chief pilot's task is a difficult one, and I appreciate that he wants to change things and it won't be done in one day. In a corporate flight department you have bean counters that are probably not human and they don't understand why you would change something from what was done before especially if there is a cost increase to it. It's the unfortunate side of corporate aviation and I have seen this in a company I worked for before. I have headed up change management in both the food industry and healthcare and as much as the change is warranted and needed, it's almost impossible to get people to agree to doing something different than they are used to. The money is there, nobody wants to spend it.
LegoMan wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 11:54 am
I think the chief pilot's task is a difficult one, and I appreciate that he wants to change things and it won't be done in one day. In a corporate flight department you have bean counters that are probably not human and they don't understand why you would change something from what was done before especially if there is a cost increase to it. It's the unfortunate side of corporate aviation and I have seen this in a company I worked for before. I have headed up change management in both the food industry and healthcare and as much as the change is warranted and needed, it's almost impossible to get people to agree to doing something different than they are used to. The money is there, nobody wants to spend it.
100% we have implemented many changes! There are many more to come. This type of flying job is not for everyone. I can say this. Every pilot that I have trained and has moved on; still keeps a close relationship with me personally to this day.
