Lufthansa CRJ700 lands on runway under construction

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Re: Lufthansa CRJ700 lands on runway under construction

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pdw wrote:There were around 20 Notams listed for this airport, so is there a chance it got lost in the shuffle ? ... meaning it's the last Notam on the long list, and that EPKT ATC would be involved/distracted with the other tragic emergency unfolding 29nm north (beeline) at an uncontrolled airport ?
There are 36 NOTAMs out for YYC today, and I read them all. If the pilots didn't read all of the ones for Katowice, they have no one to blame but themselves, just like they would be the only ones at fault if they hadn't checked the weather. It's really not that onerous to read twenty brief messages. Why do you always try to find a way to absolve pilots of any responsibility in these situations? It was the wind's fault, or there must have been a mysterious mechanical fault, or there are too many NOTAMs.
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Re: Lufthansa CRJ700 lands on runway under construction

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Diadem wrote:Why do you always try to find a way to absolve pilots of any responsibility in these situations?
I'm glad you asked. The sharpness of your posts leaves me equally quizzical, as to why shoving blame would be most important.

When it's obvious, there's no need anyway; yet supporting how the why sometimes more easily evolves can be a preventative measure IMO.

The gear ups or down/water for example; labelling pilots doesn't seem to have reduced their occurrance rate over the years. Discussing it though, has brought out some interesting reasoning as to how it's happened (on occasion to the best of them).
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Re: Lufthansa CRJ700 lands on runway under construction

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pdw wrote:When it's obvious, there's no need anyway; yet supporting how the why sometimes more easily evolves can be a preventative measure IMO.

The gear ups or down/water for example; labelling pilots doesn't seem to have reduced their occurrance rate over the years. Discussing it though, has brought out some interesting reasoning as to how it's happened (on occasion to the best of them).
Although I'm often left baffled after reading pdw's posts, I have to agree with what I believe he's trying to say on this one. Simply deriding the crew as being a bunch of feckin' autopilot reliant, iPad zombie, incompetent morons, free of any degree of common sense, that have no respect, no regard for safety, profitability or reputation, with no questions asked about how they screwed up is definitely not productive. Sometimes when an accident is investigated or even just discussed rationally from more than one jaded perspective, everybody stands to learn or relearn something. This is definitely not the case when all that transpires is a red-faced, finger-pointing, shaming session.
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